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Would you consider Circana, GFK or similar, companies with insight since they're connected to retail, distribution, and sales?What "companies with insight" are you referring to?
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Would you consider Circana, GFK or similar, companies with insight since they're connected to retail, distribution, and sales?What "companies with insight" are you referring to?
dog-piling is, & always will be, cowardly & repulsive...Took them 10+ years to lose patience? Damn.
Post what they said in regard to supply and demand.Would you consider Circana, GFK or similar, companies with insight since they're connected to retail, distribution, and sales?
X is not on a fire sale. No clue why you keep bringing up the S. Still aren't answering the question either so I guess that's a no.Post what they said in regard to supply and demand.
They are readily available. You don't fire sale a supply constrained product for well over a year.
The X has been available in bundles for months now.X is not on a fire sale. No clue why you keep bringing up the S. Still aren't answering the question either so I guess that's a no.
Which aren't on fire sale, and was the original unit originally discussed.The X has been available in bundles for months now.
This take is miscalulated. Game Pass was launched 6 years ago iirc which doesn't connect well with this assumption.They put everything they own in a service because they do not have any standout games that can push 10-20M copies and consoles. So let's have an all-you-can-eat buffet instead.
They should have focused on the games first. But again, if the games were doing that well for the platform,gamepass would not exist as it is right now.
Irrelevant. There is no shortage impacting sales of the units, it's lack of demand in current day.Which aren't on fire sale, and was the original unit originally discussed.
The same unit that these companies keep bringing up shortages for in their reports without being asked. Not the S.
So you're argument is that Circana, GFK, others are all being dishonest about the X? The guys with retail insight?Irrelevant. There is no shortage, it's lack of demand in current day.
Once again,So you're argument is that Circana, GFK, others are all being dishonest about the X? The guys with retail insight?
alrighty then. I think that's a little crazy, but if that's how you see it we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Post what they said in regard to supply and demand.
Yep, you are making shit up. You have nothing to back up your claim. Reminds me of a certain banned user Eddie Griffin.Which wasn't what the discussion was about. You are still providing no answers and changing the topic. If you don't have an answer say you don't. You're trying to trick people into forgetting what we were talking about, which wasn't the S. Nor did anyone claim the S had demand exceeding supply, it's something you completely made up.
Are you being disingenuous? I even mentioned a recent example, the recent UK thread on this very forum.
I see actual discourse isn't here. Disappointing.
Yep, you are making shit up.
Once again, they posted about shortages.Once again,
Yes, because YOU can't answer the question, I'm making stuff up?
it's clear you are not capable, or interested in rational discussion. You don't know how to conduct yourself. There's also a recent UK sales thread on this very forum from GFK saying the same thing, and none of this is news we've been seeing the singled out for some time now.
The only thing made up is your poor argument because you want to insult people instead of having a discussion, all because you're obsessed with your console of choice.
Once again, they posted about shortages.
Just check my local Best Buy in Central Florida and all the locations have Series X in stock with or without bundles. All Access is a go too.right now on bestbuy or amazon you can get a PS5. series X is not there. but series S is.
Either microsoft doesnt care to make more Series X units or the demand isnt there. who knows.
Is the GFK also out of context?Oh so hard to get!
Amazon.com: Xbox Series X – Diablo® IV Bundle : Everything Else
Amazon.com: Xbox Series X – Diablo® IV Bundle : Everything Elsewww.amazon.comAmazon.com: Xbox Series X : Everything Else
Amazon.com: Xbox Series X : Everything Elsewww.amazon.com
This is US Amazon. All say add to cart.
Actual verifiable evidence, not anecdotal since this is the ALL OF US Amazon, and not words without context from Mat.
Apparently what you're seeing does not align with some people's Anecdotes here which they are using to paint a broader picture with a ton of missing factors and data.right now on bestbuy or amazon you can get a PS5. series X is not there. but series S is.
Either microsoft doesnt care to make more Series X units or the demand isnt there. who knows.
There is no "hard to get shortages" right now. I provided verifiable evidence.Is the GFK also out of context?
Is Amazon the only place that sells Xbox Series X people buy from or are you pushing a questionable argument by omitting other retailers?
There's no need to go around in circles here, you're saying that Circana and GFK are dishonest. You don't agree with them because of some anecdotes that many buyers won't see or use and act as if only Amazon matters. I disagree and think there's a more credible and honest way of going about this.
It's clear we will continue to disagree on the big picture here, so we will just have to agree to disagree.
Apparently what you're seeing does not align with some people's Anecdotes here which they are using to paint a broader picture with a ton of missing factors and data.
Hey, apparently that's allowed so I can't say anything but point out the flaws in that, and disagree. The above back and forth was unproductive and I couldn't get real discussion through so I'll leave this thread be.
Stop with the fake shortages. Folks just aren’t willing to pay $559 for the Series X when you can get a PS5 for $499. If you’ll look at the 2nd photo, it appears that ms has stopped shipping the non bundles to retailers.
Yes, because YOU can't answer the question, I'm making stuff up?
it's clear you are not capable, or interested in rational discussion. There's also a recent UK sales thread on this very forum from GFK saying the same thing, and none of this is news we've been seeing the X singled out for some time now. The only person that doesn't have backup for their position is you. Anecdotes which can be reversed, isn't evidence.
The only thing made up is your poor argument because you want to insult people instead of having a discussion, all because you're obsessed with your console of choice.
Once again, they posted about shortages.
Time to dust this ole gif off from the many alts.I backed up my shit already when i called you out. There is no shortages of series x. Damn Eddie Griffin how many accounts you have?
Throw a PSVR2 crumb out thereI backed up my shit already when i called you out. There is no shortages of series x. Damn Eddie Griffin how many accounts you have?
Throw a PSVR2 crumb out there
Where do you live that Best Buy has none around? It is on Amazon.right now on bestbuy or amazon you can get a PS5. series X is not there. but series S is.
Either microsoft doesnt care to make more Series X units or the demand isnt there. who knows.
At least do some fact checking before continuing to make a fool out of yourself. It is there on Amazon.Apparently what you're seeing does not align with some people's Anecdotes here which they are using to paint a broader picture with a ton of missing factors and data.
Hey, apparently that's allowed so I can't say anything but point out the flaws in that, and disagree. The above back and forth was unproductive and I couldn't get real discussion through so I'll leave this thread be.
Irrelevant. There is no shortage impacting sales of the units, it's lack of demand in current day.
Bundles were not invite only and been on there since the FH5 bundle. And have been available since that bundle.Not entirely true, while I see Amazon links being posted, y'all are neglecting to mention that it just stopped becoming an Invite Only item just yesterday.
Before that it has been an invite-only item since launch. Not available to add to cart any time.
Bundles were not invite only and been on there since the FH5 bundle. And have been available since that bundle.
Christ, the warriors have become so desperate that they have to argue about the console being readily available now? FFS, go play some games or go touch grass. Do something with your lives.
It came out the first week of January and it's always been available.Right, but the FH5 bundle only came out this year.
That's the whole point of what I said. Gamepass was launched at a time when the platform was practically dying. And instead of them going in the direction of giving the best possible games you could play for any given year, they instead chose to go with a strategy that just gave you a lot of quantity but very little quality. And that is still happening to this day.Which aren't on fire sale, and was the original unit originally discussed.
The same unit that these companies keep bringing up shortages for in their reports without being asked. Not the S.
This take is miscalulated. Game Pass was launched 6 years ago iirc which doesn't connect well with this assumption.
Not entirely true, while I see Amazon links being posted, y'all are neglecting to mention that it just stopped becoming an Invite Only item just yesterday.
Before that it has been an invite-only item since launch. Not available to add to cart any time.
So finally that theory gets tested right? Next month, two months, three months? When can we look at sales data and not come up with another ambiguous excuse for Xbox?
Wayment,If Starfield doesn't push units then we can have the conversation.
Wayment,
"I see commentary that if you just build great games, everything would turn around. It's just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of a sudden you're going to see console share shift in some dramatic way." - Pill Dispenser
So finally that theory gets tested right? Next month, two months, three months? When can we look at sales data and not come up with another ambiguous excuse for Xbox?
San Diego CA.Where do you live that Best Buy has none around? It is on Amazon.
At least do some fact checking before continuing to make a fool out of yourself. It is there on Amazon.
Dude. There are Series X consoles on shelves everywhere I go. But, that's anecdotal.Is the GFK also out of context?
Is Amazon the only place that sells Xbox Series X people buy from or are you pushing a questionable argument by omitting other retailers?
There's no need to go around in circles here, you're saying that Circana and GFK are dishonest. You don't agree with them because of some anecdotes that many buyers won't see or use and act as if only Amazon matters. I disagree and think there's a more credible and honest way of going about this.
It's clear we will continue to disagree on the big picture here, so we will just have to agree to disagree.
Apparently what you're seeing does not align with some people's Anecdotes here which they are using to paint a broader picture with a ton of missing factors and data.
Hey, apparently that's allowed so I can't say anything but point out the flaws in that, and disagree. The above back and forth was unproductive and I couldn't get real discussion through so I'll leave this thread be.
I think we learned that Pro models will be niche. It definitely won't restart the generation.Xbox is doomed ( not gamepass just the console). Even Phil knows it, so the only chances is to get Activision and release a Series X Pro to somehow reset the generation.
Starfield wont move consoles the way a lot of people think, could be a great game but it seems wont be a Megaton.
Not entirely true, while I see Amazon links being posted, y'all are neglecting to mention that it just stopped becoming an Invite Only item just yesterday.
Right, but the FH5 bundle only came out this year.
You know, if they launch an entirely new gen a year or two earlier than competitor, it would be another golden opportunity. Whether they’d stick the landing is less certain.Xbox is doomed ( not gamepass just the console). Even Phil knows it, so the only chances is to get Activision and release a Series X Pro to somehow reset the generation.
Starfield wont move consoles the way a lot of people think, could be a great game but it seems wont be a Megaton.
Untrue. They take Sony's money because no one buys SE titles on Xbox anyways so Sony paying them is free money for themSE takes Sony’s money because they need it.
I'm legit hoping to see S at $99 on Black Friday just so I can get it as a streaming and Xbox BC box.The X has been available in bundles for months now.
The S sales shows they bet on the wrong horse and had to liquidate a lot of unmoving stock.
The Sega strategy. That went well for them.You know, if they launch an entirely new gen a year or two earlier than competitor, it would be another golden opportunity. Whether they’d stick the landing is less certain.
GamePass only makes sense if it's the only thing you play. Like, you spend the money, and every single game you play is on GamePass, and when it leaves GP you forget it ever existed, and you don't play any of the games too long. Because if, say, Flight Sim or Age of Empires or Forza or whatever becomes an obsession it makes more sense to just buy the game outright and cancel your sub and play that game.
It's locked in, in a way that other subscriptions are not, and I don't necessarily think that is a strength. When my subscription went full price I said "hell no", canceled it and bought the 2 or 3 games I really liked.
You know, if they launch an entirely new gen a year or two earlier than competitor, it would be another golden opportunity. Whether they’d stick the landing is less certain.
The Sega strategy. That went well for them.
dog-piling is, & always will be, cowardly & repulsive...
Not gonna lie, that is impulse buy territory.I'm legit hoping to see S at $99 on Black Friday just so I can get it as a streaming and Xbox BC box.
maybe. but i notice that ign isn't calling itself out or seeing itself as part of the problem for letting this bullshit go by the board for a decade. now that they've worked up the nerve to throw stones at phil, maybe they'll finally get around to looking in the mirror now & then, as well?...Whether or not its "dog piling" IT IS NEEDED. It's long overdue and the only way any pressure will be put on Microsoft.
The games media are typically pathetic shills and its become the status quo that nobody expects them to take any company to task.
San Diego CA.
With how difficult and how long it's taking AAA games to be made these days it could easily backfire on them to put out their system first.You know, if they launch an entirely new gen a year or two earlier than competitor, it would be another golden opportunity. Whether they’d stick the landing is less certain.