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Photoshop experts, please help a fellow Gaffer out/The New Art Thread

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Laguna X

Nintendogs Member
I'm working on this drawing of a horse and I ran into a little dilemma. Even though I did plan it out with a rough sketch, it was quite obvious that I was gonna run out of room on the paper. So, I figured I'd stunt the horse's length just enough to fit him on there. I thought that it wouldn't be that big a deal until I was nearing it's completion. It's length was starting to bug me. Anyhow, here's where I'm at:

pinto.jpg


Okay. So as I said, it was bugging me. I then stretched a copy of the piece to see if it would fix things...

pinto_2.jpg


While I think the length is much better, I didn't like how some parts (especially the head) got longer. So here's where you (Photoshoppers) can help me. What is the easiest way to lengthen the area in the red box (pic below), without fucking up the rest of the proportions? Is there a way to do that without cutting and pasting in Photoshop 6? Let me know what steps I must take if there is such a way. Here's the area that needs stretching:

pinto_fixing.jpg


Please don't try to fix it for me, because I'd like to learn what steps I need to go through to get out of these situations. Also, let me know if really needs any fixing at all. Sometimes I'm too critical on my own work (like many artists) and am seeing problems that aren't really there.

Okay, now that I've got that out of the way. I figure it's about time we've had another good old fashioned art thread. So if you artists have got anything you'd like to share, please do. Or if like me, if you're stuck on something, ask for some help/advice and maybe we can get you unstuck. Let's make this the best art thread yet.
 

Wolfy

Banned
I am working on a little masterpiece of my own. It deals with a dream I had, where we were on this roller coaster in the sky, and crashed into a big lake island.

landofdoom.jpg
 

El Papa

Member
use the free transform tool, there's a little circle in the middle that anchors where the transformation center is. Move the circle over to the right so that the stretching starts over there and doesn't effect the head. See if that works. I'm not sure how your document is set up, do you have the horse on a seperate layer that the canvas?
 
Heres a picture of spiderman I did a few days ago, it was on quite a small scale. But (hopefully) lookout for a largescale Hulk tomorrow.

spiderman.jpg
 

Laguna X

Nintendogs Member
Thanks El Papa. I'll try it tomorrow, when I can spare some time. If all goes well, I'll repost the finished piece.
Newbie said:
Heres a picture of spiderman I did a few days ago, it was on quite a small scale. But (hopefully) lookout for a largescale Hulk tomorrow.

spiderman.jpg
Speaking of the Hulk...

hulk_wip.jpg


You may remember seeing the early draft for this still-unfinished piece in the last art thread. Needless to say that it got put on hold for a bit. Hopefully, I'll get around to working on it again. Btw, nice Spidey.
 

Blacklion

Member
Cool
my 2 cents
Still got a ways to go but so far I'm happy with the result, considering i dont have any real etched details as of yet. I want to chisel the abdominas yet keep it kinda doughy ...odd i know.
beast2.jpg


Poly proxied the real lack of surface detail really shos here...but the form and sihouette I'm pleased with so far.
beast.jpg


quick sketch like 7mins very rough and fugly
smugglers-run.jpg


more quickiez
cha-largrah.jpg


blazin.jpg
 

Gart

Member
If the red box part is the only place you need stretched, why not just cut it, inlarge the canvas size, and draw inbetween? Doesn't look like it'd much work since that area isn't all that complex. I also see you drew the box to avoid muscle that's sticking out, which should make it easier.

I don't think there is a way to stretch it out without distorting and/or taking an even longer time to photoshop it.

I'm working on coloring a collaborration. Hopefully it gets done soon.
 

SD-Ness

Member
Uhhh...I can't really help with the question, but does anyone have any advice on drawing in general?

Is practicing really the most crucial step? Or are books or other supplements helpful?

Here's a drawing I did of Gohan from DragonBall Z almost two years ago. I haven't been sucessful in creating something as "okay" as this ever again. -_-

gohan_drawing_inked.jpg
 
Whenever I run out of space (unintentionally), I tend to just keep going off the page. Sometimes I stick another piece of paper to continue it.

I was gonna post this on the fan art thread, but it seems to be dead now....

makati.jpg


I'm trying out exaggerated perspectives....hope that comes across in the pic.
 

Laguna X

Nintendogs Member
Gart said:
If the red box part is the only place you need stretched, why not just cut it, inlarge the canvas size, and draw inbetween? Doesn't look like it'd much work since that area isn't all that complex. I also see you drew the box to avoid muscle that's sticking out, which should make it easier.

I don't think there is a way to stretch it out without distorting and/or taking an even longer time to photoshop it.

I'm working on coloring a collaborration. Hopefully it gets done soon.
The problem with cutting and drawing inbetween is that I don't have a tablet. I'd have to draw with a mouse and I'm not too confident with my abilities to draw with a mouse. I could perhaps stretch the selected part over the area instead drawing inbetween, but I'm gonna go with El Papa's approach first. Thanks for the recommendation.

Zero said:
Is practicing really the most crucial step? Or are books or other supplements helpful?
Practice is essential if you wish to improve. Is it the most crucial step? Not necessarily. Attending art classes is probably the best way to go. Books and other supplements are also a must, imo. Everytime I stop by a bookstore, I almost always skim through at least one artbook if not more. You can learn about all sorts of valuable information on perspective, proportions, composition, and whatnot through classes and books. Practicing will just further hone your skills in applying them to what you've learned. If you don't feel like attending classes or buying books, you can always learn by browsing through some art tutorial sites on the web.

DM_Uselink, were you DMComatoseNL on the old boards? Because you've got the same awesome dramatic style as he. Very nice work.

Blacklion, jiggle, and El Papa... very good work as usual. Jiggle's digital coloring skills never ceases to amaze.
 
DM_Uselink said:
Whenever I run out of space (unintentionally), I tend to just keep going off the page. Sometimes I stick another piece of paper to continue it.

I was gonna post this on the fan art thread, but it seems to be dead now....

I'm trying out exaggerated perspectives....hope that comes across in the pic.


makati.jpg
makaticolor.jpg


Messed around with the color of that one :) Your drawings are a pleasure to color.

And for the horsie!

pinto.jpg

pinto_fixed.jpg


hope that helps
 
Sorry if everyone else is clued in on this, but whats the deal with Laguna and Laguna X being two seperate posters. I mean, are you the same guy or what?
 

Laguna X

Nintendogs Member
Newbie said:
Sorry if everyone else is clued in on this, but whats the deal with Laguna and Laguna X being two seperate posters. I mean, are you the same guy or what?
Hehe. We aren't the same guy. I started posting here, long before he (leguna) did, as Laguna. It wasn't until after he showed when I added the "X" so as not to confuse anyone. Unfortunately it still does.

Felidae, you got the exact length that I was hoping to get. I fooled around with the original pic a bit more before ending up with the final product (below). Not quite as proportionately correct as yours, but at least it no longer bugs me. Thanks go out to everybody that helped.

final_pinto.jpg


Edit: For those of you feeling like drawing some horses, here's a couple of sites that you can use as references.

Parts of the Horse - This site shows parts of the horse relating to it's exterior, skeletal, and muscular structure. Useful for drawing/painting detailed horses.

Collectible Horse Models - You can find thousands of model horses pics. Showcasing many breeds and all types of poses.
 
Hehe. We aren't the same guy. I started posting here, long before he (leguna) did, as Laguna. It wasn't until after he showed when I added the "X" so as not to confuse anyone. Unfortunately it still does.

allright, it's just that you both post alot of art on the boards, and with the similar name and whatnot
 
Laguna: yep that was my old name :) thanks for the kind words.

and Felidae, thanks for taking the time to color that (I should be doing the same).

Some nice work in here by the way. Keep em coming.
 
DM_Uselink said:
Laguna: yep that was my old name :) thanks for the kind words.

and Felidae, thanks for taking the time to color that (I should be doing the same).

Some nice work in here by the way. Keep em coming.

No, no keep posting the black and white inks. :) I enjoy coloring them. Got any more that you haven't posted up yet ? I'll spend a bit more time on the next one than I did on this one :)
 

Laguna X

Nintendogs Member
DM_Uselink said:
Laguna: yep that was my old name :) thanks for the kind words.
Ah, so it is you. Like I said, I really dig your art style. Post more of your stuff if you can.

Here's a few (very) rough drafts that I scribbled on paper.

Turokroughdraft.jpg

This is an early sketch of Turok that will likely not be worked on for the next few months. The leg in the background is kinda fucked up, but I eventually will change it to bending a bit more at the knee. The leg will be propped up on the head of a dinosaur that he just dealt with (complete with arrows in it's side).

batman.jpg

I spent less than 10 minutes on this Batman sketch. It's kind of rough right now, but eventually I'll clean it up, add a background, and color this beyotch. I have to fix it so that it looks as if you're looking up at him. The illusion will be made when I add the background/foreground parts. I'm not sure when I'll have him done or if I'll even start to work on him immediately. I always tend to draw "quickies" when an idea develops and file them away to work on them later. I'm funny like that.
 

Ferrio

Banned
DM_Uselink said:
Whenever I run out of space (unintentionally), I tend to just keep going off the page. Sometimes I stick another piece of paper to continue it.

I was gonna post this on the fan art thread, but it seems to be dead now....

makati.jpg


I'm trying out exaggerated perspectives....hope that comes across in the pic.


MAKOTO
 
MAKOTO indeed, I gots to pay respects to my favorite SF3 character. Can't wait for SFAC.

adarkday.jpg


...Nice sketches Laguna, I'll try to do some new stuff to post, if this thread is up.
 
I recently finished this one. It originally started off as something waay differenent and arrived here through numerous timely revisions. It's Fate from Star Ocean 3 btw.

fate.jpg


And here is just an original character. It used to have a static background, but I decided to go for something more abstract. I needed something to balance out the dark colors.

black.jpg
 
Newbie said:
With all the batman antics this past week, I cant help but to draw a picture of him. It's still very WIP, but C&C appreciated.

batman.jpg

Looks like Batman.. with spawns cape/chain.. and he's been hit on the head with a sledgehammer to make him shorter.

He's a bit out of proportion, the basis is there, just work on that.
 
Felidae_Khrall said:
Looks like Batman.. with spawns cape/chain.. and he's been hit on the head with a sledgehammer to make him shorter.

He's a bit out of proportion, the basis is there, just work on that.

yeah, I think that comes from the arms being far too large, they offset the rest of him. I try not to mention what problems I'm having with a drawing, due to the fact that I tend to be overly critical of my stuff.

EDIT: Here is a quick photoshop with shorter arms, I prefer it quite a bit

batmanfix.jpg
 

Laguna X

Nintendogs Member
Newb, that looks better. I think the best advice would be to use a reference when drawing. That way you can get a better idea where things are a bit off. Also, if using a live model as reference, you can get a better understanding of how muscles look/work at varying degrees of contraction.

LZ5, I like how you did the grass in that first piece. Very nice. I'd suggest being a bit more aggressive in your shading though. Don't be afraid that you'll be losing detail in darkness. The contrast will look good and parts (leg in the background in particular) won't seem to blend/meld into other seperate parts. Keep up the good work.
 
Laguna X said:
I'm working on this drawing of a horse and I ran into a little dilemma. Even though I did plan it out with a rough sketch, it was quite obvious that I was gonna run out of room on the paper. So, I figured I'd stunt the horse's length just enough to fit him on there. I thought that it wouldn't be that big a deal until I was nearing it's completion. It's length was starting to bug me. Anyhow, here's where I'm at:

pinto.jpg


Okay. So as I said, it was bugging me. I then stretched a copy of the piece to see if it would fix things...

pinto_2.jpg


While I think the length is much better, I didn't like how some parts (especially the head) got longer. So here's where you (Photoshoppers) can help me. What is the easiest way to lengthen the area in the red box (pic below), without fucking up the rest of the proportions? Is there a way to do that without cutting and pasting in Photoshop 6? Let me know what steps I must take if there is such a way. Here's the area that needs stretching:

pinto_fixing.jpg


Please don't try to fix it for me, because I'd like to learn what steps I need to go through to get out of these situations. Also, let me know if really needs any fixing at all. Sometimes I'm too critical on my own work (like many artists) and am seeing problems that aren't really there.

Okay, now that I've got that out of the way. I figure it's about time we've had another good old fashioned art thread. So if you artists have got anything you'd like to share, please do. Or if like me, if you're stuck on something, ask for some help/advice and maybe we can get you unstuck. Let's make this the best art thread yet.


My suggestion for this dilemma would be to create 3 copies of the layer, stretch one of them, then take the remaining two, erase the parts you don't need and place the whole lot in an arrangement that's proportionally appropreate. Just make sure you use soft eraser.
 

Laguna X

Nintendogs Member
Thanks Shog, but I've already fixed it to the point that it no longer bothers me. I'll definitely keep your suggestion in mind should I ever find myself in this fix again. Although I may just go and use DM_uselink's "tape more paper" route (heheh).
 
Actually, it took alot of little massaging afterwards with clone tool and the liquify filter, but I think the basic premise does work.

LegunaXbeforeafter.jpg


Probably far from the ideal way to do this though.
 

mattx5

Member
How do you guys draw like this?

I used to be decent in early high school, but as of today, I haven't drawn anything in a few years.

Is it really as simple as JUST DRAWING?

How can I learn the basics?
 
There are a couple of ways of going about it, but they all boil down to drawing as much as possible, for every shit drawing you do, you still learn from it
 
I just got my tablet back after a summer of being away and moving. I've been working on my website mostly, but it's still pretty much down (I'm doing everything offline for now). I've done a little paint-sketching, but nothing I'm quite willing to show off yet. I planned on starting an art thread next week after I had some more stuff and I could show off my website...Ah well, here's a sketch I'm currently working on painting.

Sketch2.jpg
 

Blacklion

Member
yeah ... it's been a couple of weeks ..
I've updated some pics ..most youve seen some you haven't



dw_01b.jpg



Heres that Trailer model i did ... It's being rapid prototyped for production right now ... I cant wait to see the 1st print.
3d_03b.jpg
 
Here's something I've been putting together in my free time:

Leopalace_202_2.JPG


it's a model of the main room of my current apartment in Japan. It's still unfnished (lacks any physical, visible light source for one), but it's something I like to add to from time to time when I'm bored.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
You guys are amazing. =) I'm especially loving the fact that we finally have an art thread with a bunch of 3d work! It all looks great. 8D

Here's my new model that I just finished up... random orc!

orcrenderfront.jpg

orcrenderpose.jpg

orcrenderclose.jpg


I've yet to do any type of environment... maybe I'll do my own room like you did, Zale. =) Tis a neat idea.

Oh... and here's my website, which I recently redesigned completely: http://students.uat.edu/chrgraha/

^_^
 

mattx5

Member
Damn, some of you are really good. I did a little bit of 3D work in a program called Anim8or like a year ago, I never really got good at it though :( I was able to make a simple model of Mario, an X-Wing, table and chairs, that was about it :p

When my old computer died on me, I lost all my stuff, even pics I took of my work.

Maybe I'll redownload the program and start from scratch....
 
damn you guys kick ass. I used to draw a lot back in the days, during high school, but i haven't really done much in a while. For those of you that draw with a regular old pad and paper, what kind of pencil (or pen) would you recommend for simple sketching type stuff?
 

thom

Member
That pic looks really good Hound. Did you vectorize it with the pen tool or did you use a

tablet of some sort?
 
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