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[Methos#1975]

no youre the one who try to project and missdirect this thread into something else

No, you were trying to interject how this film has been banned in some countries and I replied about how the countries banning this film are barbaric backward filth countries that stone little girls and murder gays so who gives two shits about them and then you tried feebly to defend them and their values and how they shouldn't be insulted. Their values are worthy of nothing but insult imo. It's one thing to be offended by gays, it's quite another to murder them over that offense and that is what these countries you are defending do.

 

[wvnative]

THIS is the scene that people are making a fuss about???



I mean... come on... that is so much... nothing.

I'm so happy someone got a clip of it, context always helps. Thanks

 

[Airbus Jr]

No, you were trying to interject how this film has been banned in some countries and I replied about how the countries banning this film are barbaric backward filth countries that stone little girls and murder gays so who gives two shits about them and then you tried feebly to defend them and their values and how they shouldn't be insulted. Their values are worthy of nothing but insult imo. It's one thing to be offended by gays, it's quite another to murder them over that offense and that is what these countries you are defending do.

Has nothing to do with this conversation ( when you bring murder into Lightyears flops thread etc)

Youre doing whataboutism....

Anyway...whatever you think about this movie it doesnt concerns me....movie are banned in several countries..and it flops...thats what happened. Case closed. If you cant cope with that..well thats not my problem..have a nice day....

 

[belmarduk]

Has nothing to do with this conversation ( when you bring murder into Lightyears flops thread etc)

Youre doing whataboutism....

Anyway...whatever you think about this movie it doesnt concerns me....movie are banned in several countries..and it flops...thats what happened. Case closed. If you cant cope with that..well thats not my problem..have a nice day....

I'm concerned about your mental health. I wonder what other completely innocent things trigger you on a daily basis.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

THIS is the scene that people are making a fuss about???



I mean... come on... that is so much... nothing.

LOL! I can't believe that's the source of the outrage. Do the parents in this thread who were banging the drum of defending their child's sensibilities still feel that this is something they need to protect their children from? All a child would possibly notice here is that two ladies can greet each other the same way mom and dad can. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Crayon]

Oh noes DS9 is turning kids gay!
Ban this sick filth!

It's going to give them freckles, too!

 

[Scotty W]

The fuss about the kiss is not about the kiss.

 

[AJUMP23]

One year ago, a share of Walt Disney Co. stock was worth nearly $180.00. Today, it’s worth — laughably — just $93.

“Disney stock has plummeted nearly 50 percent as their political-infused productions continue to turn away audiences and garner angry fan reactions.”

I’ll get to that in a moment, but let’s not forget Disney’s decision to come out in favor of grooming prepubescent children grooming with gay porn in schools. As I wrote in March, that was the brand game-changer of all brand game-changers. What Disney has done is like Skippy putting dog poop in its peanut butter, like tofu putting meat in its tofu, like Charmin putting sandpaper in its toilet paper….

Nolte: Child-grooming Backlash — Disney Stock Collapsed Nearly 50% in Year

One year ago, a share of Walt Disney Co. stock was worth nearly $180.00. Today, it's worth --laughably -- just $93.

www.breitbart.com

Like I said the real issue for Disney isn't the kiss in Lightyear, it is parents who are fighting schools and now corporations to keep sexually explicit material out of kids class rooms. When Disney weighed in on the FL legislation to remove sexual content or teachers talking about sexual content (hetero or homo) in kindergarten through third grade they pissed a ton of people off. Then people saw a lot of their meetings that were leaked where they talk about trying to put more sexual content in kids shows by the executives. Parents don't want children's content filled with sexual ideology they don't want to to talk about yet.

Ironically it turns our Lightyear didn't even have a lesbian character in the initial pitch. It was added later by corporate meddling. The woman was supposed to be a Buzz love interest. Disney played themselves.

 

[Crayon]

It seems that the most outraged person at the moment is you by far, tbh.

The comparison isn't proper, toy story and DS9 appeal to different types of audiences. Disney and Pixar animation is meant for children, first and foremost.

I am honestly asking, what is the rush in showing children LGBT content? What kind of benefit do you expect children to get from it? If you mention representation, then every single group in the umbrella needs representation, which includes trans people, drag queens, gender neutral, and so on.

The problem is that in order to explain what those are, it includes teaching children gender ideology, which has lead to drag shows for children, children books with gender ideology and now trans surgeries for children. Why not keep things simple? It's a topic for when kids are grown enough to learn about sexuality, so I don't see the rush.

If a random 5 year old asked me why two men were kissing, I'd say that boys can get married and that would be the end of it.

If the same kid asked me why girls change into boys, we are immediately in "better ask your parents" territory. It's not a fuzzy line, for me.

I don't see a gay couple on screen as a gateway to gender ideology. It's not the same thing at all. One of my big heartbreakers these days is seeing gay people wrapped up in this mess and catching flak like this.

 

[strange headache]

Nolte: Child-grooming Backlash — Disney Stock Collapsed Nearly 50% in Year

One year ago, a share of Walt Disney Co. stock was worth nearly $180.00. Today, it's worth --laughably -- just $93.

www.breitbart.com

Like I said the real issue for Disney isn't the kiss in Lightyear, it is parents who are fighting schools and now corporations to keep sexually explicit material out of kids class rooms. When Disney weighed in on the FL legislation to remove sexual content or teachers talking about sexual content (hetero or homo) in kindergarten through third grade they pissed a ton of people off. Then people saw a lot of their meetings that were leaked where they talk about trying to put more sexual content in kids shows by the executives. Parents don't want children's content filled with sexual ideology they don't want to to talk about yet.

Ironically it turns our Lightyear didn't even have a lesbian character in the initial pitch. It was added later by corporate meddling. The woman was supposed to be a Buzz love interest. Disney played themselves.

Really? We've arrived at the Breitbart links now?
Why am I not surprised to find out that the people huffin' an puffin' about this are also your average low IQ Breitbart clientele

 

[FunkMiller]

I don't see a gay couple on screen as a gateway to gender ideology. It's not the same thing at all. One of my big heartbreakers these days is seeing gay people wrapped up in this mess and catching flak like this.

Agreed. Gay people currently have enemies on both sides. The conservative right, and the ideological left.

 

[strange headache]

 

[AJUMP23]

Really? We've arrived at the Breitbart links now?
Why am I not surprised to find out that the people huffin' an puffin' about this are also your average low IQ Breitbart clientele

I knew as soon as the link was posted that the source would be attacked. Because that is what people do that can't formulate a cohesive argument do or don't like the information presented. Make sure we say the source is bad. I mean we should just agree that Brietbart is extremely biased in one direction, but so is traditional news. One just makes it public the other pretends they are not biased.

If there was another source for the perspective I would link it, but there isn't. But if you want to stick your head in the sand and deny the perspective exists and think that anyone who reads this is some "moran" you are certainly able to, but you expose your own biases in the process. Unwilling to see that there are multiple perspectives and just because those are not your perspective doesn't make them wrong or dumb, it just makes them different. With different ideas, thoughts and values. They would probably show you more respect than you show them, because when they talk to you, they don't think they are better, just different.

 

[strange headache]

I knew as soon as the link was posted that the source would be attacked. Because that is what people do that can't formulate a cohesive argument do or don't like the information presented. Make sure we say the source is bad. I mean we should just agree that Brietbart is extremely biased in one direction, but so is traditional news. One just makes it public the other pretends they are not biased.

People have formulated plenty of cohesive arguments, but you guys keep returning to the same tired old wrong talking points to justify your bigotry. All I see is bumholes hating on same-sex parents and looking for justification.
The only thing we can still do is point out the absolute ridiculousness of your outrage and laugh at it.

This isn't a question about "being different" this is you literally ostracizing people who are different. So how about you practice what you preach?
Also, don't f*cking bring Breitbart sh*t into here.

 

[AJUMP23]

People have formulated plenty of cohesive arguments, but you guys keep returning to the same tired old wrong talking points to justify your bigotry.
The only thing we can still do at this point is point out the absolute ridiculousness of your outrage and laugh at it.

I have posted no Bigotry. Calling other people bigots or names is also the tactic of those unwilling to inform themselves. "I refuse to converse because you are X (nazi,bigot) and unworthy of my time". A real lack of thought from a person who has their head stuck in the sand.

 

[funkygunther]

If there was another source for the perspective I would link it, but there isn't.

there are plenty of these same perspectives in this thread, it's just the usual "go woke go broke" correlative argument apparently legitimised because it's from a news organisation

the good thing about that is that you can have many correlations...for example, looking at Warner Bros stock a similar 50% drop from last year and it's probably "go woke go broke" for them too, or maybe not, maybe it's something more limited to their industry and I do wonder what that could be

 

[strange headache]

I have posted no Bigotry. Calling other people bigots or names is also the tactic of those unwilling to inform themselves. "I refuse to converse because you are X (nazi,bigot) and unworthy of my time". A real lack of thought from a person who has their head stuck in the sand.

Man, Breitbart readers and their thinly veiled rhetoric are so predictable.
You're literally going full on corkboard crazy wall because of a same-sex kiss in a movie.

Doesn't get any more ridiculous than that and I share no appreciation for it. We've gone from self-serving pity and victim mentality, over malicious glee about the movie being banned to straight accusations of child grooming, just because two mommies gave each other a peck on the lips.

12 f*cking pages of this absolute idiocy is only telling me one thing, that gay acceptance is still in absolute shambles and that the usual suspects still haven't overcome their hate. They've just gotten better at hiding it.

 

[AJUMP23]

there are plenty of these same perspectives in this thread, it's just the usual "go woke go broke" correlative argument apparently legitimised because it's from a news organisation

the good thing about that is that you can have many correlations...for example, looking at Warner Bros stock a similar 50% drop from last year and it's probably "go woke go broke" for them too, or maybe not, maybe it's something more limited to their industry and I do wonder what that could be

Yes there are lots of reasons stocks rise and fall and this isn't the only issue for Disney. The current leadership doesn't seem to be that good, and there is inflation and people are spending and traveling less. All these things factor into it. Not just Disney wading into politics. I personally was not trying to imply that. But the article certainly is.

 

[Turnt]

If people thought Lightyear was too gay just wait until they see Woody.