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PlatinumGames‘ Hideki Kamiya has apologised to players and Microsoft for the events that led to the cancellation of Scalebound.
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Matsuchezz
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I forgive them too. It was not my money anyway so. It is ok.
Concern
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BusierDonkey
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Is Microsoft going to acquire Platinum?
SafeOrAlone
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"Xbox is really having a comeback, huh? Probably time to make nice."
Punished Miku
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Seriously.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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The karma meet Kamiya?
Iced Arcade
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would ya look at that, the truth.
Kacho
Gold Member
I know you're joking but that would be the worst cop in the history of copping. Without the talent that studio would be worthless. lolIs Microsoft going to acquire Platinum?
Saint Boot
Banned
I should have shared this with Kamiya back in the day when was handing out blocks like candy. It would have been worth it being blocked for this:
Little Chicken
Banned
No, this was the game he wanted to make, even with the ugly "photorealistic" graphics, it was all Platinum.
This apology really should've come out the day of the cancellation, good on Microsoft for shielding the devs from all of the bad publicity I suppose.
Saint Boot
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MrFunSocks
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Well this certainly clears it all up and completely ruins the narrative that it was MS’s fault as many were screaming and shouting.
It’s almost like the most obvious answer is the correct one.
It’s almost like the most obvious answer is the correct one.
cireza
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It's too late, Tencent has already given them a shit-ton of money. And in my opinion, PG is not worth it.Is Microsoft going to acquire Platinum?
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Kacho
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It’s true though. I’m not saying literally no one cared about the game, but the general consensus was that the game looked awful and probably would have been bad. I’d love to see Kamiya go back to the drawing board and try something new.
Ass of Can Whooping
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It's almost like there's no obvious answer to how multi million dollar projects fail
You're just as bad as the ones who just pointed the finger at MS
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I'll kinda always view what they did as stealing from Microsoft. I don't believe for a second they could produce a better quality game than what they showed. They clearly dedicated the real resources, financial and otherwise, elsewhere.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Hideki Kamiya apologises to Microsoft for Scalebound’s cancellation | VGC
“We weren’t experienced enough,” confesses the PlatinumGames director…www.videogameschronicle.com
Exceptionally mature of him to take this position.
That said, if Platinum didn't have the chops and the experience to build the game with the online features MS wanted, MS could have cut back on those features and focused on the core SP game which is a dev team like Platinum Games' core strength.
To me, if a dev known for SP games primarily, is failing to execute on something that's outside of their comfort zone, i.e. MP, it's on the game producer (and by proxy the publisher) to rejig the scope of the project to play to the dev's strengths. Why even contract Platinum in the first place if you want them to make something they have very little experience making? Why not contract a dev with more experience in MP games?
If MP was so important, they could have brought in another studio to help with the MP modes. Cancelling the game was premature and showed that MS Games Studios at some point stopped believing in the project, which probably had more to do with where they saw the project fitting into their publisher portfolio than anything else.
I mean, MGS bankrolled the abortion that was fucking Crackdown. I'd much rather have had a scaled-down SP-only Scalebound than that POS.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Show the evidence then if it's so clear
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ProgenitorCastle
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Id still be there day 1 if Kamiya is directing it
Nikana
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I'll always pay attention to what hes behind. Scalebound was something I was really looking forward to.
ProgenitorCastle
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Yup! Was there day 1 for The Wonderful 101, still my Game of that Generation! He's currently directing the first self published PlatinumGames' game, Project G.G.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I bought a wiiu for wonderful 101. People thought I was nuts lol.
I'm not saying Platinum is guilty of doing what the poster is accusing them of doing. It is something that happens on the regular in the industry though.
Level 5 did it to MS with Fantasy Live Online.
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Bernkastel
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Where did they get the budget for Nier Automata? Yoko Taro games never got that budget from Square Enix in his previous titles. They even made an engine specifically for Nier Automata but used Unreal Engine for Scalebound. They kept missing milestones as if they never truly worked on the game. You are telling me 200+ devs worked on Scalebound while working on all of these
Many devs assemble a demo to show off in stage like the Anthem E3 demo, but in this case they didn't even put some effort into making the demo. Also, weird that they tell everyone multiple times its not Microsoft's fault, but people still choose to put the blame where they want to.4
Scalebound Dev Says Fans Shouldn't Blame Xbox For Cancellation
Scalebound was canceled due to numerous different factors.
screenrant.com
Kiddo Cabbusses
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If only certain people in this thread took MSFT's example here.
If they had more of an awareness how many canceled projects with millions of dollars in developments costs have occurred over the general span of videogame history, they'd probably have heart attacks. Sometimes projects just don't work out, and it's no one particular person or group's fault.
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
No one will believe that though.
Big Baller
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Where did they get the budget for Nier Automata? Yoko Taro games never got that budget from Square Enix in his previous titles. They even made an engine specifically for Nier Automata but used Unreal Engine for Scalebound. They kept missing milestones as if they never truly worked on the game. You are telling me 200+ devs worked on Scalebound while working on all of these
Many devs assemble a demo to show off in stage like the Anthem E3 demo, but in this case they didn't even put some effort into making the demo. Also, weird that they tell everyone multiple times its not Microsoft's fault, but people still choose to put the blame where they want to.4
This is just one of the many times they apologized for this.Scalebound Dev Says Fans Shouldn't Blame Xbox For Cancellation
Scalebound was canceled due to numerous different factors.
They didn't develop a game engine specifically for automata. It's the same in-house engine they've used.
You're acting like Nier Automata was some high budget AAA game. It wasn't. It's the same barren JPRG world like the original Nier. Only difference this time was it had good combat
It's almost like Platinum Games is made up of multiple teams and directors? This is normal for a big indie dev relying on contract work. Here's insomniac as an example
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sendit
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Thanks for the video. Babylon Fall is going to be amazing.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Rat Rage
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Hideki Kamiya apologises to Microsoft for Scalebound’s cancellation | VGC
“We weren’t experienced enough,” confesses the PlatinumGames director…
OMG!! Kamiya is so honest and sincere!!!
My love and admiration for him is BOUNDLESS!!!
Drizzlehell
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Cool. Now could they please go back to this concept and have another crack at it?
Drizzlehell
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I haven't even heard about this game until I watched that Wha Happun? video and I thought that the general concept and some of the gameplay footage looked incredible. I would love to play that game.
Clear
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Watch the interview series and its very apparent Kamiya is (1) a really nice man, and (2) extremely self-critical and deprecating.
Kamiya is doing the right thing by owning his part in the failure of the project, but I have absolutely no doubt there was fault on both sides. The guy's track-record speaks for itself, and if he ended up out of his comfort-zone on Scalebound you have to question MS production-side for putting a star developer in that position in the first place.
Reading between the lines my suspicion is that (like a lot of Xbox' internal projects around that time) it got fucked over due to corporate strategy demands putting the creative leads into a no-win situation. I can well imagine Kamiya freaking out under the circumstances because -and again, this is so him if you watch the series- because he's genuinely invested in his work and isn't one to hide his feelings.
Stefan.North
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Basically "purizu andastend"
Hideki Kamiya apologises to Microsoft for Scalebound’s cancellation | VGC
“We weren’t experienced enough,” confesses the PlatinumGames director…
BusierDonkey
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Wait, if Microsoft buys up Platinum all the people working at Platinum automatically become untalented?
Kacho
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No, just that the talent can and will eventually leave. Platinum doesn’t have any valuable IP that I’m aware of.
Bernd Lauert
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Props to Kamiya for admitting failure and props to Microsoft for not openly blaming Kamiya.
I'm telling you it is something that happens often. You don't have to believe me but I've witness it before and others I've worked with have told me the same.