Oh man, I just got told off by a monkey today. My life is now complete.
PlayStation Plus Thread: Plus What? PLUS EVERYTHING!
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Oh man, I just got told off by a monkey today. My life is now complete.
el retorno
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Disappointing. I haven't finished all the June games (my friend is also signing up so it'll be nice to play through Ratchet and LBP) though so I'll probably renew to keep access $50 bucks isn't bad at all at least compared to Live which doesn't get you games. And the other discounts and benefits still make it worth it. My biggest problem is seeing Europe get Motorstorm and Dead Space while we get PSN games.
Z_Y
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First of all...2 Walking Dead episodes are 2/5 of one game. Second of all...the only complaining I'm seeing is about the disparity between what EU and US stores are getting. Thankfully, I can vote with my wallet. I used my free trial in June. I'm ready to re-up for a year but I see no reason to at this point. I feel for the NA guys who are on a yearly sub. Yikes.
Play Walking Dead yet?
Which sell for $5 apiece on PSN/XBLA, making them worth $10.
MightyHedgehog
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And I HATE your constant acting like people can't be disappointed with something they paid for. Grow up, man. This thing, by current design, lives and dies by what it gets every month and that can make the whole thing seem worth it or much less so over time even if the amount paid is a good deal. If hardcore gamers who burn through stuff faster and own more DD and retail games than any other type are disappointed, they have every right. This is NeoGAF, so it's not occasional gamer central. Sony should be adopting a Gametap/Netflix approach to create more quality consistency instead stringing people along for the next ambiguous thing that will make your (re-)sub worth it. "Stay tuned."
Uno Venova
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I really came into this PS plus things with the right state of mind, I didn't expect big retail games in every update. I'm satisfied with the free games I got so far.
Yes, I'm the one being over-dramatic...
Yes, that's right, we've been treated "bad." Unreal.
The automatic updates, cloud saves, etc, are always a constant, too. Opinions are, by definition, subjective... but I'm with him when I question just how miserable some people in this thread are.
I still have barely touched Renegade Ops, but I loved what I played when it hit last month. Plus is a surefire way to build a back-catalog. The discounts alone are worth the money- considering it was ~$4-5 for Plus this month and I saved $3 on Sound Shapes. The betas have been nice, too.
OldJadedGamer
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Right.
Z_Y
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Then you'll have to spend $15 if you want to finish the story. Or you could have bought the season pass for $20. Look, I loved both episodes (bought them on XBLA) but let's not kid ourselves here and pretend they are each self contained games worthy of replacing 2 PSN games.
Considering that people are disappointed, seems like you do agree
They're giving you far more than $5 worth of games for your $5 a month, regardless of whether they're PSN games or retail releases. That pretty much markets itself. It's obvious that the uncertainty of the rewards is part of what keeps people paying, so they have little to gain by revealing a full year's worth of updates in advance. This is the best value in gaming right now. There's really no good reason for all the complaints.
graywolf323
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el retorno
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Not yet. I might wait till the other episodes come out. I'm pumped to play them I just hate cliff hangers.
Is bloodrayne any good? I see its made by the same studio that did Shantae which I remember being praised here. I am pretty pumped about a few good 2d platformers.
So you got your $5 worth plus two other games and maintaining access to the other games from June and August. I don't think there'd be as big of complaints if we didn't see the Euro updates outdoing us for the past two months.
I think you'll see things pick up with the holiday season and new customers picking up a PS3 (the new redesign) and with them trying to compete with WiiU. I think they'll market it pretty heavily.
Canis lupus
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Nice BloodRayne!
Grow up, dude. It's about expectations, and I expect a hundred dollars in retail games every month for my four dollars. It's my right to feel that way!
MightyHedgehog
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Dunno about the PSN edition, but it wasn't all that hot on XBLA. In fact, pretty disappointing considering the developer, actually.
Well you guy an have option to join EU master race
Haha, oh dude, it would make me unbelievably happy if a bunch of people in this thread did that, only to find that the EU blew through their budget early and for the next eight months can only release one measly PSN game a month.
By the way, a "measly PSN game" is the best game of the year, by far, perhaps of the generation, and is worth way more than its $15 asking price.
OldJadedGamer
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If you took these away I wouldn't even notice. I'm here for the game rental service. I'm just asking they keep the quality that they had when I signed up in June. Quality has gone down in SCEA and stayed the same in SCEE. Had I known the quality of releases would go down, I wouldn't have signed up in the first place.
Why shouldn't you expect big retail games when SCEE is offering them. Sony *can* give you to them but they are not.
SCEE got a hundred dollars in retail games.
Then go buy the SCEE Plus if you're so confident it is permanently superior.
"Johnny got a red bike! I want a red bike too! Waaaah!"
Uno Venova
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They have given big retail games every single update so far?
el retorno
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I have a feeling a lot of these games are gonna come to both the Euro and US ps+ but the differences in the markets are causing the Sony to stagger them differently.
Yes. They got Deus Ex last month and Dead Space 2 this month.
Yes. They got Deus Ex last month and Dead Space 2 this month.
Plinko
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Sorry, but this is an absolutely ludicrous response.
Both areas are paying for the same service. One would expect similar items for the same service.
Hasn't Europe, time and time again, gotten the shaft when it comes to gaming? Specifically, PSN? Releases? I say let it go and give it to them.
If you really want it, you could always make a European account & go that route. Heck, do American & European Plus for under $10/mo and get showered in games every week.
Can't really when Vitas are only tied to 1 account. Well, not like SCEA cares about Vita either.
Stop acting like a child. If anyone in this thread is throwing what could be called a tantrum it's you. Everyone else is just expressing normal frustration.
Uno Venova
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But before that, what were their updates like.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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Think I'm going to give up on PS Plus. I've found that this is usually this is how it goes:
If the free game is good and something I wanted, then I probably bought it already (since usually it's older games that go up for free so there have already been plenty of chances to buy them on sale).
If the free game isn't good or not something that I wanted, then who cares if it's free?
The discounts aren't bad since they're usually for new PSN titles, but it's not worth it just for those.
If the free game is good and something I wanted, then I probably bought it already (since usually it's older games that go up for free so there have already been plenty of chances to buy them on sale).
If the free game isn't good or not something that I wanted, then who cares if it's free?
The discounts aren't bad since they're usually for new PSN titles, but it's not worth it just for those.
Sound Shapes discount, free Where Is My Heart mini, free Velocity mini, Hot Shots Plus 50% off, Hustle Kings 50% off... it's there.
Kind of far reaching with those Minis when they were available before they were playable on Vita
Not really sure, but I do recall someone from SCEE promising they'd coordinate their releases with SCEA so there'd be less complaining when one region gets obviously better titles than the other.
What does that matter? People asked if Europe has always gotten the better deal, and he said yes, and then named the last two months. Case closed!
A brilliant "no, YOU are!" response. Well done.
That's fair, but they're great free* games that you can play on your Vita (and I only mentioned the two best minis aside from the bunch I've overlooked).
The service is clearly best on the PS3, but there's content and benefits for Vita owners, too.
Live Free or Die
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Wow, lots of cry babies in this thread. Oh well, that's the internet for you.
The trick is to shine a light on how good things genuinely are. It's really easy to dissolve into an argument or a snob-fest, but pointing out basic evidence and approaching it with a "take it or leave it" attitude is the best option when people start getting too picky or negative.
Z_Y
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Wow. This is really important to you, isn't it? Will it make you feel better if we pretend to be excited about Bloodrayne?
Speedymanic
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Isn't that how rental services work? You pay a small amount per month (locked into a contract, be it monthly, quarterly or yearly) so you can access hundreds of dollars worth of content.
Sounds like On-Live is right up your alley. Enjoy!
It's all about whether you classify PS+ as a true "rental service", I don't, hence why my expectations are not high.
A rental service implies you have the game for a limited time and have the choice from a huge library, with PS+ you can have the title indefinitely as long as you renew but only have access to a specific library, they don't sync up imo, hence why imo PS+ is not a rental service.
As I am a UK member though I have been thoroughly impressed with the EU updates, but if the boot was on the other foot I would feel shafted in comparison.
Speedymanic
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Right, but we're not talking about Onlive. Plus is basically doing the same thing, albeit in a very limited way, so it stands to reason that people would expect something similar.
Yes, but it is basically a rental service. Which is why people are upset that they aren't getting their money's worth or feel hard done by when other regions are offering exactly what they expect from such a service.
EU plus is basically what most people expected when they signed up, a healthy amount of retail games with the odd PSN title. Not largely PSN titles with the occasional pity retail title thrown in after months of bitching.
Not exactly.
To "rent" a digital movie/TV show you usually pay a small fee per title (check out Amazon instant, PSN, Zune, XBLA, etc. Netflix, which is $8 or so bucks a month gives you the ability to stream a wide selection older movies (some as recent as last summer, granted) in SD or sometimes HD, but that library is a rotating roster too, just like Plus. The difference with Plus is that when you download a game on the service you had it indefinitely until you end your subscription for six months, whereas some content just pops off Netflix.
Movies & games are very different though when it comes down to it, so it's a hard comparison. When I think of renting movies I usually think of Redbox or Blockbuster where I pay $1-5 to rent a movie for a day or two, then I return it.
PS Plus is $4-5 a month and gives you cloud saves, beta access, automatic updates, great discounts (on brand new games too, usually), and a few other small freebies along with the free* games you get monthly (sometimes weekly). Games, by and large, are usually more expensive than their TV & film counterparts too.
My concept of PS+ is as a content aggregation service. Subscribing day-1 and holding onto the subscription makes it more valuable.
Once you get 2-3 years in, you have literally scores of games tied to your subscription, and that $50 seems like a reasonable price to have direct access to that collection.
Also, this thread. Sheeee-ah. :|
Once you get 2-3 years in, you have literally scores of games tied to your subscription, and that $50 seems like a reasonable price to have direct access to that collection.
Also, this thread. Sheeee-ah. :|
el retorno
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Holy shit what a joke. Who the fuck are you to tell me I can't complain about content I'm paying for.
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