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[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Blood Rayne: Betrayal
Choplifter
Gotham City Imposters
Pac-Man Championship Edition DX
Sideways
Hard Corps: Uprising
Walking Dead - Episodes 1 & 2
Zombie Apocalypse
-> really jealous of these as a European.

Bulletstorm
Darksiders
Dead Space 2
MotorStorm: Apocalypse
Resident Evil 5
Hell Yeah! Wrath of the Dead Rabbit
Oddword: Stranger's Wrath HD
Chime
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Red Dead Redemption
Rock of Ages

-> really jealous of these as a Canadian. Especially the bold titles! These are titles that I have not played and want to play! Those SCEA titles are something I'll skip (except for The Walking Dead).

 

[Brad Grenz]

It's almost like the grass is always greener on the other side!

 

[Mithos]

Odd thing happened to me playing Saints Row 2. Suddenly a message saying "this expires in 30 minutes". I knew that wasn't right, most things expire in 2013, but sure enough my game reset itself 30 minutes later.

I checked again, and the expiration date was still 2013. I tried to play again, worked normally. Weird bug I guess?

Some of the games are considered as the 1 hour full game trial prior to the PS+ full game unlock kicking in.

Did you download the 1 hour trial for the game?

This happened to me during Oddword: Stranger's Wrath HD, and that game don't have a demo as far as I know, so I guess what happened was what Chatin said.

 

[jcm]

It's almost like the grass is always greener on the other side!

The SCEA/SCEE complaining reminds me of this bit from Louis.

She’s a separate person from you. You’re never gonna get the same things as other people. It’s never gonna be equal. It’s not gonna happen ever in your life, so you might as well learn that now, okay?

Right now, she's lucky. And you're not particularly lucky. Maybe later you'll be lucky.

 

[Brad Grenz]

The SCEA/SCEE complaining reminds me of this bit from Louis.

I had the same exact thought recently.

 

[DarkFlow]

Common SCEA/SCEE titles:



SCEE titles:



SCEA titles:

The us has gotten 2 retail games in this timespan, that's just sad. I feel like I got bait and switched. Instead of AAA titles that EU gets, we get crap like blitz. I really hope they are maybe just saving up for a holiday push to sweeten the pot for the new people. Though at thus point I can't really get my hopes up.

 

[BarrenMind]

PS Plus members can buy The Unfinished Swan a week early, on 10/16/12.

 

[HiddenAway]

PS Plus members can buy The Unfinished Swan a week early, on 10/16/12.

...and 17th October in Europe.

 

[Fuzzy]

Week early releases without a discount is the most pointless "perk".

 

[softie]

Common SCEA/SCEE titles:



SCEE titles:



SCEA titles:

And don't forget the permanent 20% discount for PS+ on the SCEA side. ;-)

 

[MightyHedgehog]

And don't forget the permanent 20% discount for PS+ on the SCEA side. ;-)

If only it were only 20% less valuable instead of feeling much, much less by comparison. I would be happy paying the difference if it meant I had the list provided by SCEE.

 

[Carl]

Week early releases without a discount is the most pointless "perk".

As long as it's finally coming, i don't care

Presumably they got a good turnout from Journey's week early access, so are doing it again

 

[Metalmurphy]

SCEA titles:
Warhawk (Single-player Only)

It's Starhawk and EU got it as well.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

It's Starhawk and EU got it as well.

AHH! Yeah, thanks. Keep me update people!

 

[Mikeside]

Isn't DUST 514 beta for all PS Plus subscribers too?

I tried it...man....wow

 

[LakeEarth]

Isn't DUST 514 beta for all PS Plus subscribers too?

I tried it...man....wow

Is it bad? It showed up on my games list (auto-download without asking me), I decided to try it, it said the servers were busy, so I deleted it. Way to waste my bandwidth PS+.

 

[Fuzzy]

Is it bad? It showed up on my games list (auto-download without asking me), I decided to try it, it said the servers were busy, so I deleted it. Way to waste my bandwidth PS+.

You can select what auto downloads on your PS3. I turned it off for demos because if I want them then I'll download them myself. I hated them downloading shit I didn't care about.

 

[softie]

If only it were only 20% less valuable instead of feeling much, much less by comparison. I would be happy paying the difference if it meant I had the list provided by SCEE.

"Feeling" is a very wish-wash term. If you pay less, expect less. US PSN gets almost every game far earlier (not necessarily PS+ related), for cheaper prices and has an overall better structure than EU PSN. I would gladly have less PS+ content, if it would mean the EU PSN would step up in all other terms.
I would've never created so many PSN accounts for different regions, if there hadn't been such a huge disparity. But it is what it is now.

PS+ is still a great service and provides far more value than the 39/50€ you pay for it, regardless of US or EU region.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

"Feeling" is a very wish-wash term. If you pay less, expect less. US PSN gets almost every game far earlier (not necessarily PS+ related), for cheaper prices and has an overall better structure than EU PSN. I would gladly have less PS+ content, if it would mean the EU PSN would step up in all other terms.
I would've never created so many PSN accounts for different regions, if there hadn't been such a huge disparity. But it is what it is now.

PS+ is still a great service and provides far more value than the 39/50€ you pay for it, regardless of US or EU region.

Wishy-washy has got nothing to do with it over time when the internet and common corporate information spouts make clear the contrast in value proposition. I already understand how these things work when I paid in, but I'm just expressing my discontent in a relevant thread with the rest of us who subscribed (and I'm still down for several more months of my year-long sub). That we get more rocks and less gems for mildly less cost upfront is what it comes down to. I'm not going to be happy or think it's acceptable just because someone else says I should as I've got my own preferences for what I find most valuable. For that, I only really care for the IGC and not the extraneous bits and features I could quite easily never hear about again and not be affected at all by their absence. I demand better and SCEA does and should listen to those paying them so that they can be better.

 

[toddhunter]

Wishy-washy has got nothing to do with it over time when the internet and common corporate information spouts make clear the contrast in value proposition. I already understand how these things work when I paid in, but I'm just expressing my discontent in a relevant thread with the rest of us who subscribed (and I'm still down for several more months of my year-long sub). That we get more rocks and less gems for mildly less cost upfront is what it comes down to. I'm not going to be happy or think it's acceptable just because someone else says I should as I've got my own preferences for what I find most valuable. For that, I only really care for the IGC and not the extraneous bits and features I could quite easily never hear about again and not be affected at all by their absence. I demand better and SCEA does and should listen to those paying them so that they can be better.

See it depends on your point of view. The "better" the games are, like Dead Space 2 and RDR, the more chance people already have them which makes them completely worthless. See the whole "US PS+ sucks, EU gets games like Borderlands, US PS+ sucks, it gets games like Borderlands which everybody already has" thing.

Personally the US store has had much more for me then the EU store so if they had done what you had asked, I wouldn't be as happy.

Over a short period of time, it is impossible for them to please everybody and I don't think anyone can say either deal is "bad" to date.

 

[DarkFlow]

Wishy-washy has got nothing to do with it over time when the internet and common corporate information spouts make clear the contrast in value proposition. I already understand how these things work when I paid in, but I'm just expressing my discontent in a relevant thread with the rest of us who subscribed (and I'm still down for several more months of my year-long sub). That we get more rocks and less gems for mildly less cost upfront is what it comes down to. I'm not going to be happy or think it's acceptable just because someone else says I should as I've got my own preferences for what I find most valuable. For that, I only really care for the IGC and not the extraneous bits and features I could quite easily never hear about again and not be affected at all by their absence. I demand better and SCEA does and should listen to those paying them so that they can be better.

My only hope is they are going to drop a megaton on us for the holiday season. Other then that the two services are miles apart at this point. I don't use the discount because I'm on a limited gaming budget. I got this to expand my super small ps3 library, and right now it's not living up too that at all.

If they had added more then 2 damn retail games up this point I would feel like I'm getting my moneys worth, but I'm not. When I see EU get stuff like bullet storm and re5 while I get blitz, you can understand how I might feel cheated. Then add on the fact that they won't bother telling us what we should expect for then whole month and that's just adding salt to the wound.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

See it depends on your point of view. The "better" the games are, like Dead Space 2 and RDR, the more chance people already have them which makes them completely worthless. See the whole "US PS+ sucks, EU gets games like Borderlands, US PS+ sucks, it gets games like Borderlands which everybody already has" thing.

Personally the US store has had much more for me then the EU store so if they had done what you had asked, I wouldn't be as happy.

Over a short period of time, it is impossible for them to please everybody and I don't think anyone can say either deal is "bad" to date.

I'm not saying it's bad deal, I'm saying it's not as good as it could be as evidenced by another region's offerings. A long time back, I already addressed what I thought would be problems in the longer term with keeping its core value tied to a small selection of titles that rotate in and out over months. The best solution, IMO, is to offer a wider, more Gametap/Netflix-like collection that you, as an individual, choose to put on your own plate and switch out a limited personal set of active licenses as you see fit and as the collection changes. That, to me, is the best way to handle things instead of creating this clear disparity between regions that leads only to a natural compare and contrast which will always greatly favor one set of offerings over another when a much more limited selection is the only thing to choose from. I can only assume that SCEA re-up numbers falling will be the only way to see greater change. Thing needs more consistency and a wider appeal.

 

[toddhunter]

I'm not saying it's bad deal, I'm saying it's not as good as it could be as evidenced by another region's offerings. A long time back, I already addressed what I thought would be problems in the longer term with keeping its core value tied to a small selection of titles that rotate in and out over months. The best solution, IMO, is to offer a wider, more Gametap/Netflix-like collection that you, as an individual, choose to put on your own plate and switch out a limited personal set of active licenses as you see fit and as the collection changes. That, to me, is the best way to handle things instead of creating this clear disparity between regions that leads only to a natural compare and contrast which will always greatly favor one set of offerings over another when a much more limited selection is the only thing to choose from. I can only assume that SCEA re-up numbers falling will be the only way to see greater change. Thing needs more consistency and a wider appeal.

Probably right. A mix of genres for a start would be welcome.

 

[Mikeside]

I'm not saying it's bad deal, I'm saying it's not as good as it could be as evidenced by another region's offerings. A long time back, I already addressed what I thought would be problems in the longer term with keeping its core value tied to a small selection of titles that rotate in and out over months. The best solution, IMO, is to offer a wider, more Gametap/Netflix-like collection that you, as an individual, choose to put on your own plate and switch out a limited personal set of active licenses as you see fit and as the collection changes. That, to me, is the best way to handle things instead of creating this clear disparity between regions that leads only to a natural compare and contrast which will always greatly favor one set of offerings over another when a much more limited selection is the only thing to choose from. I can only assume that SCEA re-up numbers falling will be the only way to see greater change. Thing needs more consistency and a wider appeal.

This is exaclty how I see it progressing.

I can also see it developing more like Sky TV, where you pay for a core selection of channels/games and then you can bolt on other ones for this fee or that.

 

[Shiloa]

As a European, I prefer the US offering (except for this month). Retail titles are great and all (especially now my Bluray drive died), but they are all old titles which I could get for a few £ off ebay and quite often have already played anyway, and also have massive file sizes. PS+ is a great way to find PSN titles which I wouldn't really have heard about.

I'm still more than happy with PS+ though.

 

[Carl]

As a European, I prefer the US offering (except for this month). Retail titles are great and all (especially now my Bluray drive died), but they are all old titles which I could get for a few £ off ebay and quite often have already played anyway, and also have massive file sizes. PS+ is a great way to find PSN titles which I wouldn't really have heard about.

I'm still more than happy with PS+ though.

Even if you could get them all for £1 including P&P you'd still save money over the year, with 45+ games for a £40 subscription

 

[Shiloa]

Even if you could get them all for £1 including P&P you'd still save money over the year, with 45+ games for a £40 subscription

I'm sure but I miss out on the choice and I've played many of the games on offer (RE5, Bulletstorm, JC, Borderlands, Red Dead, Deus, Darksiders). Like I said, I'm very happy with PS+ anyway.

 

[Withnail]

Common SCEA/SCEE titles:

Retail:
Borderlands
Infamous 2
Just Cause 2
Lara Croft & Guardian of Light
LittleBigPlanet 2
Renegade Ops
Saints Row 2
Space Marine
Starhawk (Single-player Only)

New:
Double Dragon Neon
Virtua Fighter 5

PSN:
Outland
Scott Pilgrim

SCEE titles:

Retail:
Bulletstorm
Darksiders
Dead Space 2
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
MotorStorm: Apocalypse
Red Dead Redemption
Resident Evil 5

New:
Hell Yeah! Wrath of the Dead Rabbit

PSN:
Chime
Oddword: Stranger's Wrath HD
Rock of Ages

TOTAL: 16 Retail, 3 New, 5 PSN. 24 Total.

SCEA titles:

Retail:
Rachet & Clank: All 4 One

New:
NFL Blitz

PSN:
Blood Rayne: Betrayal
Choplifter
Gotham City Imposters
Pac-Man Championship Edition DX
Sideways
Hard Corps: Uprising
Walking Dead - Episodes 1 & 2
Zombie Apocalypse

PSOne:
Hot Shot Golf 2
International Track and Field
TOTAL: 10 Retail, 3 New, 10 PSN, 2 PSOne. 25 Total.

SCEE list is missing Retro/Grade and Machinarium.

 

[softie]

Wishy-washy has got nothing to do with it over time when the internet and common corporate information spouts make clear the contrast in value proposition. I already understand how these things work when I paid in, but I'm just expressing my discontent in a relevant thread with the rest of us who subscribed (and I'm still down for several more months of my year-long sub). That we get more rocks and less gems for mildly less cost upfront is what it comes down to. I'm not going to be happy or think it's acceptable just because someone else says I should as I've got my own preferences for what I find most valuable. For that, I only really care for the IGC and not the extraneous bits and features I could quite easily never hear about again and not be affected at all by their absence. I demand better and SCEA does and should listen to those paying them so that they can be better.

I don't see any contrast in value. I have two EU PS+ accs and one US PS+ acc and I find them pretty alike, except that I paid more for EU PS+. The fact that I'm more interested in PSN games than retail games (this is how PS+ started by giving awesome PSN games for free on release day), makes US PS+ even better for me, because EU gets less of them. Then there are more discounts on US PS+ for PSN games which are anyway already cheaper in US than EU, so it gets even better for me in this regard.
So you see, I get more great PSN games with great value and it even costs me far less. And this is what PS+ is all about, since the beginning.
I'm pretty happy with what I get. We already have at least 25 games from the promised 45 we will get from PS+ and this all within 5 months. So there will be far more than 45 in the end if they keep that pace. I think that this is pretty awesome; you get more than you paid for.

 

[Andvary]

I no longer recommend PS+ to my friends unless they haven't played LBP2 and inFamous 2.

 

[T.M. MacReady]

I no longer recommend PS+ to my friends unless they haven't played LBP2 and inFamous 2.

Congratulations.

 

[Andvary]

Congratulations.

heh, I convinced 5 of them to buy it before so...

 

[DarkFlow]

heh, I convinced 5 of them to buy it before so...

Tell them to get the EU version they will be much happier.

 

[bigace33]

Dumb question, I've been out of the console loop for some time now,(mainly game on my PC) how would I go about getting a PS+ EU account? My US 3 month sub has run out, and I like the Euro selection a lot better.

 

[Canis lupus]

Aw Sony, you so generous. Sends me email gift for a trophy I just unlocked.





I platinummed the game months ago.

 

[Raptor]

You can select what auto downloads on your PS3. I turned it off for demos because if I want them then I'll download them myself. I hated them downloading shit I didn't care about.

Where?

Asking cause I will use a 30 day trial and I don't want for it to download stuff automatically.

 

[Carl]

Where?

Asking cause I will use a 30 day trial and I don't want for it to download stuff automatically.

Settings -> System settings -> Auto download

And it will have tickboxes for what you want it to do.

 

[DarkFlow]

Dumb question, I've been out of the console loop for some time now,(mainly game on my PC) how would I go about getting a PS+ EU account? My US 3 month sub has run out, and I like the Euro selection a lot better.

http://distortedgamer.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-create-european-psn-account.html

 

[bigace33]

http://distortedgamer.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-create-european-psn-account.html

Thanks a bunch.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

How does the PS Plus 1 month trial included in the Playstation collections work? I redeem a code and I can download everything that plus members can get for free for a month?

 

[Toki767]

How does the PS Plus 1 month trial included in the Playstation collections work? I redeem a code and I can download everything that plus members can get for free for a month?

Yep. And after that month you can't play them anymore unless you resubscribe.

 

[J-Tier]

How does the PS Plus 1 month trial included in the Playstation collections work? I redeem a code and I can download everything that plus members can get for free for a month?

Yep, you can download anything that's available in that month with that code. Of those that you've downloaded, you can play until the membership expires. To continue downloading new releases, or continue playing those you've downloaded, you'd need to renew the membership.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

Yep. And after that month you can't play them anymore unless you resubscribe.

Thanks. I'm planning on getting the PS collection for God of War seeing as I've never played the other games in HD. Will be getting starhawk single player as well.

 

[Aru]

I'm pretty sure US PS+ got Rock of Ages too, at some point.

 

[Cramoss]

I'm pretty sure US PS+ got Rock of Ages too, at some point.

Yes we did.

 

[Brad Grenz]

Yes we did.

It was before June.

 

[Number45]

Tell them to get the EU version they will be much happier.

Is the US version considered poor value? I understand it doesn't hold up to the EU version at the moment, but it still seems like good value for the asking price.

 

[AndyD]

Is the US version considered poor value? I understand it doesn't hold up to the EU version at the moment, but it still seems like good value for the asking price.

They seem to alternate, sometimes US gets a bunch of good stuff, then EU gets a bunch of good stuff. So if you wait until its awesome, you will have a bad time, as the point of plus is to accumulate a library rather than be given a perfect one at any given time.

 

[DarkFlow]

Is the US version considered poor value? I understand it doesn't hold up to the EU version at the moment, but it still seems like good value for the asking price.

It's not a poor value by any means, it's just the EU store seems to be getting more disc games. If that's what he wants then that's his best bet.

 

[Bradach]

My PS+ sub lapsed the other day. I checked my download list and lots (but not all) of my downloads are gone. Like red dead for example. is this normal? I plan on renewing my sub but what the hell, i thought that stuff was safe!