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People say Pistol Whip is cool. Gets good reviews.

it's fun for 15 minutes. I couldn't get into it.
But it's on all other platforms anyway.

 

[MALpractice311]

No BC no buy

This right here. Sony really needs to encourage developers of PSVR1 games to get some free PSVR2 upgrades out there for the masses ASAP, if Sony really wants to make a splash with this product. You're asking people to buy a console for $500, or $550 in some countries, and then what is basically an add-on, in an industry where add-ons almost never do well, for another $550. At that price point, I want to be able to access all the old VR games in my PS+ backlog.

 

[Kokoloko85]

They are not backwards compatible.

But lots of studios have their games being ported over to PSVR2

 

[tmlDan]

GHG I think they understand their playerbase just fine. Look at the answers in this thread and it will prove you wrong:

still, without a price drop I don't see anyone but the more hardcore userbase dropping potentially $600-$650 with taxes on something like this unless they have something people NEED to play.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Of course it doesn't. I can get over 90mhz on Half Life Alyx on a Quest 2 on ultra settings. Wirelessly. How the hell is PSVR2 going to be that much better than that? Especially with the wire restricting movement?

It does. Quest 2 has the wireless, but the screens and tech pale compared to this.

 

[TheAmazingSpiderMan]

They should’ve just let Kaz Hirai announce the price on a short 10 second YouTube video.

 

[SLB1904]

Of course it doesn't. I can get over 90hz on Half Life Alyx on a Quest 2 on ultra settings. Wirelessly. How the hell is PSVR2 going to be that much better than that? Especially with the wire restricting movement?

Dude psvr2 is beating high end pc specs by a wide margin. From fov. Framerate. Etc. Is not even close at all

 

[FunkMiller]

It does. Quest 2 has the wireless, but the screens and tech pale compared to this.

Eh. The increase in the PSVR2's screen resolution over the Quest 2 is nowhere near enough to justify getting it, when I have the set up I already do.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Have they clarified the situation regarding backwards compatability with PSVR 1 titles yet?

Its not BC. But lots of games are being ported over to PSVR2 and will work with updates etc

 

[kyliethicc]

Of course it doesn't. I can get over 90hz on Half Life Alyx on a Quest 2 on ultra settings. Wirelessly. How the hell is PSVR2 going to be that much better than that? Especially with the wire restricting movement?

is PSVR2 wired? I hadn't heard that

also

do you happen to have a Quest 2 btw just wondering

 

[Sleepwalker]

This is going to be like $800 canadian after tax isnt it? Yeah i'm not in. No alyx, wired, tons of shovelware, no bc, no pc compatibility (at least none announced)

Ill stick to my quest 2. Someone will mod re 8 if thats a money hat anyway

 

[iHaunter]

Just get another job if you can't afford it.

Imagine people complaining about the price of a completely unnecessary luxury item.

 

[DeepEnigma]

GHG I think they understand their playerbase just fine. Look at the answers in this thread and it will prove you wrong:

Bro, you were a PCMR until they priced you out of a graphics card market. You shouldn't throw stones at $1500-$2000 graphics cards and medium glass houses. Hell, to get a competent tech on the PC that compares visually, is still over $1000. Quest 2 is child's play with visual tech compared to this, and even they raised their price by $100.

 

[MadchesterManc]

Its almost like folk in this thread were thinking Sony were releasing some cheap knock-off Google cardboard instead of an actual headset

 

[Kokoloko85]

Gonna wait for HL Alyx. Hopefully the price will drop till then

Same. If it launches with it, I might buy it day 1

 

[Kilau]

I think they may have said it won't work with PC. idk

But idk could see it happening eventually.

Safer bet is at a minimum Sony will port their VR2 games to PC.

I haven't been paying close attention but I can understand locking it down to PS5 at least at launch to keep it from being ganked by PC only buyers.

 

[FunkMiller]

is PSVR2 wired? I hadn't heard that

also

do you happen to have a Quest 2 btw just wondering

Yep, on both.

Quest 2 is great with PCVR. Goes up to 120hz, dependent on what rig you've got. I have a 3070 and a Ryzen 9 5900, so I go along happily at 90hz on every game, wirelessly via Airlink. It's pretty much flawless for me.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Eh. The increase in the PSVR2's screen resolution over the Quest 2 is nowhere near enough to justify getting it, when I have the set up I already do.

It's also OLED and HDR with foveated rendering and eye tracking. Resolution also makes all the difference in VR with screendoor and the like.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Then this will be the best deal on the market. Everyone needs to compare specs, not pricing.

Not sure if serious.

 

[Rubik8]

Got my preorder link from Sony. I’m ready!

 

[Kokoloko85]

I'm not seeing any software here that will make people go out and get this,especially so if people's VR libraries will have to start again from scratch for the new device. Literally all that matters with VR is the software/games and all of this looks like shallow crap.

How do they not understand this?

There not gonna start from scratch. Lots of games are being updates and patched to work on the new tech, PSVR2 ( no camera, new controllers etc )

https://mixed-news.com/en/psvr-2-doesnt-support-psvr-1-games-but-theres-hope/

 

[Fabieter]

I will get it if its also working on pc.

 

[FunkMiller]

It's also OLED and HDR with foveated rendering and eye tracking. Resolution also makes all the difference in VR with screendoor and the like.

Well, like I say, the performance and fidelity I get from my Quest 2 with Airlink is more than enough for me. Who knows, I might change my mind if I get to use a PSVR2 to test it, but it's not going to be a launch purchase for me at that price. It just doesn't offer enough of an increase to what I've got to justify it. In fact, the fact it's wired is a really big step back for me.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Thank God I have no interest in VR because my piggy bank is in a very challenging place right now. That price would've literally killed my wallet.

 

[Kokoloko85]

This right here. Sony really needs to encourage developers of PSVR1 games to get some free PSVR2 upgrades out there for the masses ASAP, if Sony really wants to make a splash with this product. You're asking people to buy a console for $500, or $550 in some countries, and then what is basically an add-on, in an industry where add-ons almost never do well, for another $550. At that price point, I want to be able to access all the old VR games in my PS+ backlog.

They are https://twistedvoxel.com/psvr2-psvr1-games-compatibility-patches/

 

[SCB3]

Hmm, its a lot of money for something that given the track record I'm not sure on

On the other hand VR is cool, but I may go for a Steam Deck first before this, I need a bigger area first I think

 

[OverHeat]

Day 1!

 

[Fafalada]

I'm not seeing any software here that will make people go out and get this,especially so if people's VR libraries will have to start again from scratch for the new device. Literally all that matters with VR is the software/games

I'm with you about the issue of rebooting a library - however, most new headsets to date did this, including Quest, so it can be argued VR audiences buy into hardware as much as content.

This however

and all of this looks like shallow crap.

I'm not saying it won't be - but this assumption seems to be based more on 'it's not major IPs' than what's actually shown in the trailers.
And they've announced big-launch IPs already, this is showcasing the actual new stuff now. Not sure why people are so allergic to idea that that's not the only type of software that sells. Hell if you look at top 3 best-sellers in VR to date - it's all from (previously)no-name developers with new IPs. And none of them are what you'd call 'traditionally deep' games.

 

[Godot25]

With this (not unexpected) price I expect similar story to PSVR. Low attach rate and abandoned platform in terms of first party after 1-2 years.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well, like I say, the performance and fidelity I get from my Quest 2 with Airlink is more than enough for me. Who knows, I might change my mind if I get to use a PSVR2 to test it, but it's not going to be a launch purchase for me at that price. It just doesn't offer enough of an increase to what I've got to justify it. In fact, the fact it's wired is a really big step back for me.

Oh don't get it twisted, not a launch purchase for me as well unless they surprise announce bangers at the VGAs or around launch. I can wait for an 'add on novelty device.' But the tech that's in this thing, they are most definitely taking a loss, especially compared to other lesser tech devices that are priced similarly or way, way more.

 

[R6Rider]

DAY ONE. But this deserved its own showcase.

 

[chixdiggit]

Wired and no PC connectivity is a solid pass from me. Better options available.

 

[saintjules]

I want one, but...I don't know now.

 

[rofif]

With this (not unexpected) price I expect similar story to PSVR. Low attach rate and abandoned platform in terms of first party after 1-2 years.

The problem with every VR is shitty games and comfort.
You get initial wow factor out of the way quickly. Then it's not worth putting on for some crappy phone games blown out into vr.
Alyx would sweeten the deal but I already finished it twice

 

[DeepEnigma]

Wired and no PC connectivity is a solid pass from me. Better options available.

It's a single wire USB-C. People will have this PC operable within months if not weeks.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Does PlayStation even have any studios working on VR games? This shovelware lineup suddenly gave PSVR2 an awful stench.

 

[GHG]

however, most new headsets to date did this, including Quest,

No they didn't.

There not gonna start from scratch. Lots of games are being updates and patched to work on the new tech, PSVR2 ( no camera, new controllers etc )

https://mixed-news.com/en/psvr-2-doesnt-support-psvr-1-games-but-theres-hope/

Well that would alleviate the issue somewhat but we need to wait for that to be confirmed.

 

[SLB1904]

Not sure if serious.

Hes right. 550 is dead cheap for the tech. I almost bought index with is inferior for a grand.

Wired and no PC connectivity is a solid pass from me. Better options available.

Such as?

 

[FunkMiller]

Oh don't get it twisted, not a launch purchase for me as well unless they surprise announce bangers at the VGAs or around launch. I can wait for an 'add on novelty device.' But the tech that's in this thing, they are most definitely taking a loss, especially compared to other lesser tech devices that are priced similarly or way, way more.

Oh yeah, they're taking a big hit on it alright. I just don't think they've made enough of a decent value proposition yet to tempt people away from current PCVR technology. Which could end up being a huge issue for them - especially as it's a bit backward on what I think is the most important thing for a properly immersive experience: it not being wireless.

 

[analog_future]

More expensive than pretty much anyone expected or wanted it to be. Bold choice.

 

[SLB1904]

Also people with "no pc support semantics "

They manage to get psvr1 work with PC. This will be easy

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh yeah, they're taking a big hit on it alright. I just don't think they've made enough of a decent value proposition yet to tempt people away from current PCVR technology. Which could end up being a huge issue for them - especially as it's a bit backward on what I think is the most important thing for a properly immersive experience: it not being wireless.

I don't think they're concerned about that at the moment. They are going after the PS5 owners who were PSVR prior, or want to jump into VR with PSVR2. If they make an official app for the PC down the road, then I can see them focusing more there.

 

[nowhat]

6000 euro... + game ... FUCK NO. I will pass.
That's way more than console was

6000 euros is indeed more than a PS5.

 

[fran.fernandez]

Btw I said day one but also

May say it say 30, same as previous vr set I had.

Games just sucks

 

[kyliethicc]

Yep, on both.

Quest 2 is great with PCVR. Goes up to 120hz, dependent on what rig you've got. I have a 3070 and a Ryzen 9 5900, so I go along happily at 90hz on every game, wirelessly via Airlink. It's pretty much flawless for me.

Can you control the game with your eyes?

 

[FunkMiller]

I don't think they're concerned about that at the moment. They are going after the PS5 owners who were PSVR prior, or want to jump into VR with PSVR2. If they make an official app for the PC down the road, then I can see them focusing more there.

Fair play. Not sure that's the right strategy, but if they think they can get by on just the existing PSVR market, then that's up to them. I think I'd be trying to secure a wider market share myself, and that means cutting in to the PCVR market.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Dude psvr2 is beating high end pc specs by a wide margin. From fov. Framerate. Etc. Is not even close at all

Yeah but Valve is releasing a new headset next year and Quest 3 is coming

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

550$?! Yea imma have to pass unless they have a must play.

Edit: sheesh reading people happy about 550$ Sony should honestly have charged 700$. Their hardcore fans take anything they do as a W. Might as well charge the most you possibly can.

 

[kyliethicc]

Yeah but Valve is releasing a new headset next year and Quest 3 is coming

And the Valve headset will be $1000 lol

 

[Black_Stride]

For the feature set.
Its a hell of a device.


Just announce the PC SDK.
Otherwise I will wait for unofficial drivers for PC.
Then wait again for someone to buy it, hardly use it, get bored of it and sell it to me for half price.