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[ArchedThunder]

Everything was Z, except maybe the main series.
If the next main series game doesn't even have Z in its title I'm going to die laughing.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

They could go with X2 and Y2 like they did with Black and White. People were expecting gray, but we just got a 2 slapped on.

 

[Boss Doggie]

You mean XZ YZ

 

[HeavyMetalLover91]

Man that sucks it's not Ash's Sceptile. And why would they bring back Charizard at the end of Best Wishes if they're not gonna use him
I don't watch the anime on a regular basis at all but I'd totally give it a shot if they brought back some older Pokemon in a new way and it just seems a wasted opportunity (especially given the Hoenn remakes as a perfect excuse to dig out Sceptile) :/

 

[Billyman]

Nah.

DS could support two generations because it had enormous hardware sales and significantly better software sales for Gen IV than expected. 3DS does not have these factors in play, and the technical aspects of the 3DS hardware has repeatedly proven to not being up to what Game Freak were intending.

I expect Gen VII to be out in Autumn 2017, a year after the NX Handheld launches. Black and White launched on the DS before the 3DS launched in Japan, and there's about zero chance that Gen VII is going to be ready before the NX launches. Never say never, but I'd be astonished if Game Freak weren't moving to the NX full-bore after Z is out the door.

We're only two entries into the 3DS, Gamefreak can still take advantage of the console and revamp the engine like how they did with BW. The battle animations and poses could be a bit more dynamic and they could give trainers animated opening sequences. The overworld engine could be even better. I don't see them ever fixing the lag when 3D is turned on but everything else could be improved.

It's not like the 3DS isn't selling either and I doubt the NX install base will be that big by autumn 2017 for Gamefreak to just dive in like that. We're probably not going to get a full blown four year generation with Gen VII if its on the 3DS but I can imagine we'll get a two year run at least like BW/B2W2 into XY

 

[Nightbird]

I really hope we'll get another awesome animated trailer for the next game, just like BW2 and ORAS did

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zkTsd0iU97s

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vw6zP7n0ais

 

[brinstar]

You mean XZ YZ

I think this is the most likely, or ZX, ZY. The only thing that I'm stuck on is what will the boxart Pokemon be? There's multiple Zygardes but the 100% seems to be the "main" one.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

XY takes such a huge leap in difficulty when going for a Nuzlocke 0.o

The Solrock/Lunatone girl in Grant's Gym, Korrina's two Lucario, Reflection Cave and the random Wobbuffet encounters---

All I have left are Pidgeotto (jesus I forgot how much this Pokemon absolutely sucks!), Marowak (decent, but zero coverage), Furret (not much use against Korrina), and Chatot, my one saving grace who I'll power-level and just go crazy with Chatter.

In good news though, I found a Shiny Rhyhorn today! Awesome.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Man that sucks it's not Ash's Sceptile. And why would they bring back Charizard at the end of Best Wishes if they're not gonna use him
I don't watch the anime on a regular basis at all but I'd totally give it a shot if they brought back some older Pokemon in a new way and it just seems a wasted opportunity (especially given the Hoenn remakes as a perfect excuse to dig out Sceptile) :/

They're using Shota for Hoenn.

And honestly I like that Ash has no returning characters right now. His XY team is quite balanced in appearances and screentime.

 

[Boss Doggie]

XY&Z005 - Pikachu Dreams of Squishy!

wat

why would pikachu dream of brain cells

 

[HeavyMetalLover91]

We're only two entries into the 3DS, Gamefreak can still take advantage of the console and revamp the engine like how they did with BW. The battle animations and poses could be a bit more dynamic and they could give trainers animated opening sequences. The overworld engine could be even better. I don't see them ever fixing the lag when 3D is turned on but everything else could be improved.

It's not like the 3DS isn't selling either and I doubt the NX install base will be that big by autumn 2017 for Gamefreak to just dive in like that. We're probably not going to get a full blown four year generation with Gen VII if its on the 3DS but I can imagine we'll get a two year run at least like BW/B2W2 into XY

There is no way in hell that Gen VII is releasing on the 3DS. It's a console that will be 5 years old next Spring and we still have Z to be released. That would put a Gen VII release at 2017 at the earliest, which even if they went with a BW length gen that's still 3 years (BW released Sept '10 and finished in Oct '13 when XY came out). That would put Gen VIII onto a 2020 release, and there is no way Nintendo is gonna let the NX be without a Pokemon game for that length of time, even if it is backwards compatible. It's much more likely that 2016 will see Z release in the first half of that year, leading into a Holiday 2017 release of Gen VII on the NX which will definitely be out by that time.

Also for what it's worth, the DS was only able to sustain two Generations because it was an anomaly in sales and lifespan. Had the DS done GBA numbers we would have seen the 3DS launch around 2009 and therefore Gen V would have been on there. They also probably wouldn't have rushed it and it would have been a long drawn out gen like Gen IV.

 

[Exterminieren]

We're only two entries into the 3DS, Gamefreak can still take advantage of the console and revamp the engine like how they did with BW. The battle animations and poses could be a bit more dynamic and they could give trainers animated opening sequences. The overworld engine could be even better. I don't see them ever fixing the lag when 3D is turned on but everything else could be improved.

Everything could be improved, yes, but the question is whether it's worth the time or effort when a new, more powerful console has arrived.

The in-battle models are already too much for the 3DS to handle- adding more complexity to them is only going to make performance even more unacceptable than it already is.

It's not like the 3DS isn't selling either and I doubt the NX install base will be that big by autumn 2017 for Gamefreak to just dive in like that. We're probably not going to get a full blown four year generation with Gen VII if its on the 3DS but I can imagine we'll get a two year run at least like BW/B2W2 into XY

X and Y took more than three years to come out after Black and White. If we're talking about a new generation starting in 2017, we're looking at 2020 at the earliest for Pokémon to appear on the new hardware, which would frankly be insane.

DS lasted a lot longer before being replaced than 3DS will. It would be lunacy to carry on with the 3DS that long after the NX comes out, user base be damned.

 

[JoeM86]

Plus, if there's one thing that will grow the NX Handheld's userbase, it's Pokémon.

Just look what it did for the Game Boy

 

[HeavyMetalLover91]

X and Y took more than three years to come out after Black and White. If we're talking about a new generation starting in 2017, we're looking at 2020 at the earliest for Pokémon to appear on the new hardware, which would frankly be insane.

DS lasted a lot longer before being replaced than 3DS will. It would be lunacy to carry on with the 3DS that long after the NX comes out, user base be damned.

You literally just repeated what I said in the post above you.. What a waste of everyone's time...

 

[Kyzer]

I don't expect gen vii until 2018 at the earliest. I don't think it will take as long as XY because it won't be as massive of a rehaul as moving everything to 3d for the first time, and the 3ds install base isn't so massive as the DS one was (seriously it would have been bad business to not take advantage and release gen v on DS also.). But I don't see them releasing Z and then Gen VII right after, either. I'm assuming XYZ is being developed by the main team ?

 

[Exterminieren]

You literally just repeated what I said in the post above you.. What a waste of everyone's time...

I didn't see your post before I clicked submit, so apologies for that.

I should stick to useful, worthwhile posts like yours here.

 

[JoeM86]

I don't expect gen vii until 2018 at the earliest. I don't think it will take as long as XY because it won't be as massive of a rehaul as moving everything to 3d for the first time, and the 3ds install base isn't so massive as the DS one was (seriously it would have been bad business to not take advantage and release gen v on DS also.). But I don't see them releasing Z and then Gen VII right after, either. I'm assuming XYZ is being developed by the main team ?

2018 would make Gen VI the longest generation ever.

2017 is a safe bet.

Let's compare

Generation 1: February 1996 - November 1999 - 3 years, 9 months
Generation 2: November 1999 - November 2002 - 3 years
Generation 3: November 2002 - September 2006 - 3 years, 10 months
Generation 4: September 2006 - September 2010 - 4 years
Generation 5: September 2010 - October 2013 - 3 years 1 month
Generation 6: October 2013 - ??? - 2 years 1 month and counting. Indicators of new game coming in 2016 for Generation VI.

 

[Busaiku]

Hopefully Team Rocket gets a new motto next gen.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Whoa, they changed Hoopa's dub voice

 

[bernardobri]

Quick question: Bought today an Omega Ruby from someone who left the save file with a good share of event & competitive pokemon, so I was wondering: If I transfer all of them into my Pokemon Bank, delete the save after that and start over the game, will the pokemon in the Bank still be accessible? Or are they ID/save locked?

 

[ColtraineGF]

Quick question: Bought today an Omega Ruby from someone who left the save file with a good share of event & competitive pokemon, so I was wondering: If I transfer all of them into my Pokemon Bank, delete the save after that and start over the game, will the pokemon in the Bank still be accessible? Or are they ID/save locked?

Bank mons are game and save independent, so feel free to drop 'em in.

 

[Kyzer]

2018 would make Gen VI the longest generation ever.

2017 is a safe bet.

Let's compare

Generation 1: February 1996 - November 1999 - 3 years, 9 months
Generation 2: November 1999 - November 2002 - 3 years
Generation 3: November 2002 - September 2006 - 3 years, 10 months
Generation 4: September 2006 - September 2010 - 4 years
Generation 5: September 2010 - October 2013 - 3 years 1 month
Generation 6: October 2013 - ??? - 2 years 1 month and counting. Indicators of new game coming in 2016 for Generation VI.

Hmm...I guess it does make sense to look at the games from within their own frame of reference, but is there still two development teams?

What does the timeline look like with that in mind?

I've always been kind of confused about this. If Z is being developed by the core series team, could they also be working on Gen VII and be ready that quickly?

Assuming Team 1 made RSE, DPPt, BW (I guess Team 2 did BW2?) and XYZ, then there has always been at least a two year gap between the main games and the"third" version and then again between the third version and a new gen. Basically Team 1 comes out with a game every two years, except this year it seems Z is lttp. So I guess 2017 would make sense considering its 4 years from XY release...but still...

Then again, I know for XY they expanded and there are all sorts of other variables that would factor in. Like they could easily add in dev. members from ORAS after it was complete and slowly transition into gen VII..

Gen V was weird because there was no remake, instead a sequel and brand new console gen just one year after...

What if theres a third dev team now, the one that developed BW2 developing Z version? :OOO And then Team 1 will be ready at launch for NX

Idk. Probably not. Exciting times though.

 

[Professor Beef]

I should stick to useful, worthwhile posts like yours here.

Well at least you learned.

 

[PreyingShark]

Now that I'm reminded of how hard Super Mystery Dungeon was...

Is there gonna be an OT for it? I wanna see GAF's reactions to it. Should be hilarious once people start getting to

Spoiler

Salamence

.

 

[JoeM86]

Now that I'm reminded of how hard Super Mystery Dungeon was...

Is there gonna be an OT for it? I wanna see GAF's reactions to it. Should be hilarious once people start getting to

Spoiler

Salamence

.

Don't see why there wouldn't be. If Shuffle and Rumble World can have one, so can this

 

[Wichu]

3DS homebrew = uncompressed screenshots of previously unscreenshotable games = itsbeautiful.png

 

[DaBoss]

3DS homebrew = uncompressed screenshots of previously unscreenshotable games = itsbeautiful.png

This is so nice. I should really set up my 3DS for this before Z (or whatever it is) comes out. No more phone screenshots lol.

 

[Wichu]

I'm messing around with other homebrew stuff, like the N3DS increased clock speed.

Just encountered the infamous framerate killer, Yanma Horde, with my own flying Pokémon out.

Solid 30FPS.

This changes everything.

 

[jnWake]

How do you get starters with hidden abilities? Safari?

 

[Seil]

How do you get starters with hidden abilities? Safari?

Kanto and Kalos starters are available in the Friend Safari. Other starters have had their Hidden Abilities made available through events so they can be bred down.

I wish other starters would be made available via stuff like Friend Safari though so I could get them in luxury balls x.x

 

[Wichu]

How do you get starters with hidden abilities? Safari?

The gen 1 and 6 starters are in the Friend Safari. The other ones are all via various special events; for example, the gen 2 ones are currently available by using Pokémon Bank, and the gen 5 ones are Mystery Gifts using the passwords POKEMON497, POKEMON500, and POKEMON503.

Infernape was bred from a hidden ability Chimchar traded up from Black/White (where one of its ancestors was presumably obtained from an event).

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Could someone tell me why Hypnosis keeps on failing on me? I'm trying to catch Ho-Oh and managed to paralyze it, but I want it asleep as well, but Hypnosis keeps on failing. I don't know why!

 

[Mr-Joker]

Could someone tell me why Hypnosis keeps on failing on me? I'm trying to catch Ho-Oh and managed to paralyze it, but I want it asleep as well, but Hypnosis keeps on failing. I don't know why!

That's why, you can't stack up status effect like sleep, paralysis, poison, burn and frozen.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

That's why, you can't stack up status effect like sleep, paralysis, poison, burn and frozen.

Enemy AI have done it to me though. I've been sleep and confused at the same time along with sleep and paralyzed. Ho-Oh is a bitch to catch. I've fought this thing twice long enough for it to use struggle and ko itself.


That's a nice homebrew Wichu.

 

[Seil]

Enemy AI have done it to me though. I've been sleep and confused at the same time along with sleep and paralyzed. Ho-Oh is a bitch to catch. I've fought this thing twice long enough for it to use struggle and ko itself.

Freeze, Sleep, Burn, Poison and Paralysis do not stack. Confusion is its own thing, however, and does stack. Basically, effects that have an icon cannot be combined.

Using Paralysis means you're committed to it. Sleep is more effective for catching, but the RNG with waking up and having to re-apply is the price of that.

 

[jnWake]

You can also stack Attract.

Paralysis + Attract + Confusion + a flinching move is the best thing ever. Togekiss can pull it off I believe haha.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Well the legendary mons have gender undefined.

The only time you can use attract on them is if you're using a gender-undefined mon with attract, like Mew or Cryogonal.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

I've come to the conclusion that Ho-Oh is uncatchable without the Master Ball.

 

[Seil]

Well the legendary mons have gender undefined.

The only time you can use attract on them is if you're using a gender-undefined mon with attract, like Mew or Cryogonal.

Not all legendaries. Latias/Latios, Heatran and Cresselia all have genders.

Personally for catching though, I primarily use a Smeargle with Simple Beam, Spore, Soak and False Swipe now. Simple Beam can obviously be changed out for something more useful in a given situation. It's mostly a leftover from when I was hunting for hidden abilities.

 

[Busaiku]

I've come to the conclusion that Ho-Oh is uncatchable without the Master Ball.

I got mine with Pokéball!

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

So weird realizing a Pokemon like Chatot who seems like a Farfetch'd-esque gimmick is actually good.

My god does Pidgeotto absolutely suck. Not one Pokemon in XY I've managed to defeat with it.

 

[Boss Doggie]

what was the Masuda tweet about

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I read it's something about The Pokemon Company meeting with Game Freak.

IIRC there's some Nintendo investor meeting tomorrow---on the same day of the XY&Z premiere.

 

[JoeM86]

what was the Masuda tweet about

Just that he was travelling back to Game Freak from The Pokémon Company.

Nothing special.

 

[Mr-Joker]

I've come to the conclusion that Ho-Oh is uncatchable without the Master Ball.

I don't even use a master ball anymore as catching legendary is so easy if you have the right team and item.

I lead with a Pokémon who has a move that can cause paralysis, then I spam Flash and double team to prevent them from attacking and burn turn before finally attacking with a weak attack to slowly bring down their health into the red.

Then I just toss either Dusk Ball, Timer Ball or Ultra ball.

Just that he was travelling back to Game Freak from The Pokémon Company.

Nothing special.

Hmmm both Game Freak and Pokémon Compan are located in Tokyo which is in the Kanto region...

Gen 1 remake confirmed!!!! ;p

Spoiler

I am joking

 

[LiQuid!]

I tried jumping back on my copy of Pokemon X after giving up and writing this entire generation off and every time I have to go back to Lumiose City I want to chuck my 3DS out the window. I hate this city so much.

I kinda want to just give up and get one of the ORAS games. Even tho it's my least favorite region by far, almost all of my favorite pokes come from that gen and I kinda wanna get the gang back together. Do they give any of the cities in that game the Lumiose treatment with all the awful faux-3D movement, or does it stay geographically pretty true to the originals?

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I tried jumping back on my copy of Pokemon X after giving up and writing this entire generation off and every time I have to go back to Lumiose City I want to chuck my 3DS out the window. I hate this city so much.

I kinda want to just give up and get one of the ORAS games. Even tho it's my least favorite region by far, almost all of my favorite pokes come from that gen and I kinda wanna get the gang back together. Do they give any of the cities in that game the Lumiose treatment with all the awful faux-3D movement, or does it stay geographically pretty true to the originals?

The only town that's really revamped is Mauville, it's pretty large but far easier to navigate than Lumiose and doesn't do the camera fuckery.

I actually thought ORAS had a nice pace to it---except for the post-game "Episode Z" which is just long cutscenes and incredibly easy fights.

 

[bennywhatever]

Decided to get back into Y after not playing for over a year. I took the team I had in the battle box and went to the battle maison with it (Super Triples). At match 32 now so... so far so good! Way to go last-year-benny!

Togekiss - Mamoswine - Gyarados

Hawlucha, Mega Medicham, Shuckle as backups.

 

[LiQuid!]

I just had a level 43 Scrafty wipe his ass with 4 of my level 50+ pokes. This is why I don't Nuzlocke...

The only town that's really revamped is Mauville, it's pretty large but far easier to navigate than Lumiose and doesn't do the camera fuckery.

I actually thought ORAS had a nice pace to it---except for the post-game "Episode Z" which is just long cutscenes and incredibly easy fights.

Ok this is assuring. I'll endure having to surf the entire back third of the game, but never again with another one of these bloated and horrific megalopolises. After Fallout 4 comes out I think I'm gonna free up some gaming budget for ORAS. Maybe It'll even show up cheap on black friday!

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

If I remember correctly I'm pretty sure they cut down on the surfing too.