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Pokémon Community Thread 4: "Your Portal to What's Hip and Happening in Sinnoh!"

So there's likely another Zygarde core with a blue spot instead of red? Makes sense but I wonder how they'll handle that in the games. I assume the two 50% formes will combine to make Complete but then someone else would have the other Zygarde-50.
 

Nightbird

Member
and of course they'll complain if gamefreak cuts out their favorite

Exactly, that's the point they are forgetting: if there are cuts, be prepared that your favorite may get axed.

But of course it's easier to shout out a suggestion without thinking about it for a minute.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
So there's likely another Zygarde core with a blue spot instead of red? Makes sense but I wonder how they'll handle that in the games. I assume the two 50% formes will combine to make Complete but then someone else would have the other Zygarde-50.

You know I would laugh so hard if Pokémon Z is two version and has Zygarde 50% on both the box art.

I love it when people suggest to cut down the number of Pokémon. As if Game Freak isn't already cutting enough content away

I just ignore them, they will never be in charge of the series and thankfully Game Freak won't listen them as during the nearly 20 years of Pokémon not a single Pokémon got dropped at all.

All 721 Pokémon are here to stay and that includes formes and Mega.

Haters can just suck it.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
XZ and YZ (or ZX and ZY) does sound pretty plausible.

By the way, if they happen, what changes do you expect?

I really think Korrina will probably end up being the Pokemon League Champion, re-playing XY I got that impression.

I also could see Clemont moving on up to the Elite Four since he's probably popular in part thanks to the show, and I could see them changing Lumiose's role up a bit thus removing it as where you'd face a 5th Gym Leader. I wonder if they might do what the show did and give him a Luxray as his strongest? I could see Malva abandoning her spot and going back to help a possible Team Flare revival.

I just hope they switch up the Gym Leaders more and don't just shove the new ones into the beginning and end like BW2 did.
 

Rutger

Banned
All your ideas sound good. I'd really like to see the return of the Pokemon World Tournament, and bring back the old Elite Four members this time too. I'm not gonna hold my breath on this though.

I expect more with AZ at the least, especially since his special Floette still hasn't been released I believe?

I'm really looking forward to hear more about the next game, whatever it is. BW2 has made the "third game" a lot more excited that it used to be. And at the very least, I'm can't wait to see what the new megas will be.
 

jnWake

Member
If Korrina becomes the champ I hope she drops using only fighting types. Nothing more underwhelming than a champion focusing on only one type.

Dropping Lumiose as gym is a cool idea and they could handle to have the 2nd gym earlier. Gym pacing was very strangein X/Y with a big gap between 1st and 2nd gym but then you had like gyms 2-6 one after the other.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I love it when people suggest to cut down the number of Pokémon. As if Game Freak isn't already cutting enough content away

Yeah, and if you look at it objectively, there is no point on cutting pokemon anyway. It's not even "trimming the fat" because pokemon aren't the "fat" that needs to be trimmed.

I don't think I've seen people rationalize that decision beyond the selfish "it's easier to memorize".

So there's likely another Zygarde core with a blue spot instead of red? Makes sense but I wonder how they'll handle that in the games. I assume the two 50% formes will combine to make Complete but then someone else would have the other Zygarde-50.

I dunno where people are pulling the color, I thought it'd be insignificant, otherwise they would have shown it by now.
 

GoldStarz

Member
Korrina was pretty much the only Gym Leader to get any character establishment in X/Y except Wulfric, so I mean why not?

other than the fact that diantha will never get any character at all i mean


Exactly, that's the point they are forgetting: if there are cuts, be prepared that your favorite may get axed.

Let's cut Charizard and only Charizard! I wanna see what happens!
 

Rutger

Banned
If Korrina becomes the champ I hope she drops using only fighting types. Nothing more underwhelming than a champion focusing on only one type.

I don't think we've had a Champion with just one type for their whole team.
Oh, Wallace...
Well, I doubt that's something we actually have to worry about.

That wouldn't bother me too much, I just want a good battle theme. Steven is hurt a lot by his forgettable theme to me. Alder too somewhat, but at least he had a cool encounter theme.
 
I don't think we've had a Champion with just one type for their whole team.
Oh, Wallace...
Well, I doubt that's something we actually have to worry about.

That wouldn't bother me too much, I just want a good battle theme. Steven is hurt a lot by his forgettable theme to me. Alder too somewhat, but at least he had a cool encounter theme.

most champions seem to try to have one type, but never seems to do it lol
 
Lance was a flying type champion. Those 3 Dragonites, and the Garchomp in the rematch, were merely simple attempts at obscuring this hidden truth.

But he got his act together in BW2.
 

GoldStarz

Member
most champions seem to try to have one type, but never seems to do it lol

  • Blue--Diversity (Exempt)
  • Red--Diversity (Exempt)
  • Lance--Dragon (fails in G/S/C due to lack of Dragons, instead uses Dragon-esque Pokemon Charizard, Aerodactyl, and Gyarados and multiple Dragonites; fails in HG/SS initial fight using a remade team from G/S/C; fails in HS/SS rematch despite multiple dragons existing by still using Charizard and Gyarados; passes in B2/W2 in the PWT)
  • Steven--Steel (fails in R/S due to having Ground and Rock types (Cradily, Armaldo, and Claydol) ultimately making him more geological themed than Steel-typed; while not champion in Emerald this team is reused for his Meteor Falls fight as well; fails in B2/W2 again using Rock types (Archeops and the R/S/E fossils); fails in ORAS initial fight using remade team; fails in ORAS rematch using Carbink and Aerodactyl in place of his fossils)
  • Wallace--Water (passes in Emerald, passes in B2/W2's PWT)
  • Cynthia--Diversity (Exempt)
  • N--Diversity (Exempt)
  • Alder--Bug (fails in B/W with half of his team (Bouffalant, Druddigon, Vanilluxe) being diverse in type, fails in B2/W2's PWT using a Diversity team, while not Dhampion in B2/W2 he fails using Conkeldurr, Braviary, and Bouffalant)
  • Iris--Dragon (fails in B2/W2 using vaguely reptilian Pokemon like Archeops, Aggron, and Lapras; uses same team for rematch)
  • Diantha--Gimmick (fails)


Ultimately I don't think Steven is supposed to be a Steel-typed Champ, but it definitely seems that way so IDK. I personally prefer Diversity Champions, it makes them harder to counter knowing they don't share a single common weakness.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
oh hey, an HD shot

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all it needs is a teenage pilot
 
Too distracted by the dude in the bottom right...

EDIT: So I found a thing on the Nintendo website about Nintendo zones and it says to find locations I should click the links of their partners, I clicked the McDonalds one and it was just a regular store finder but one of the things it said was if it had WiFi or not, so is any McDonalds with WiFi a Nintendo Zone?
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
XZ and YZ (or ZX and ZY) does sound pretty plausible.

By the way, if they happen, what changes do you expect?

I really think Korrina will probably end up being the Pokemon League Champion, re-playing XY I got that impression.

I also could see Clemont moving on up to the Elite Four since he's probably popular in part thanks to the show, and I could see them changing Lumiose's role up a bit thus removing it as where you'd face a 5th Gym Leader. I wonder if they might do what the show did and give him a Luxray as his strongest? I could see Malva abandoning her spot and going back to help a possible Team Flare revival.

I just hope they switch up the Gym Leaders more and don't just shove the new ones into the beginning and end like BW2 did.

Well if they do decide to change up the gym leader and add new one, I sure hope for the love of Arceus they finally finally give Dark a gym leader.

Freaking Fairy got one before them. ¬_¬;

If Korrina becomes the champ I hope she drops using only fighting types. Nothing more underwhelming than a champion focusing on only one type.

Dropping Lumiose as gym is a cool idea and they could handle to have the 2nd gym earlier. Gym pacing was very strangein X/Y with a big gap between 1st and 2nd gym but then you had like gyms 2-6 one after the other.

I liked that gap between the first and second gym, it was something different and it gave the impression that the Kalos region is huge.

Just a shame that they didn't keep it up throughout the whole game.

Let's cut Charizard and only Charizard! I wanna see what happens!

I will HM01 everyone if they cut Charizard. >_> <_< >_>

Lance was a flying type champion. Those 3 Dragonites, and the Garchomp in the rematch, were merely simple attempts at obscuring this hidden truth.

But he got his act together in BW2.

Lance is a cheater back in gen 2, he has 3 low level Dragonite and an Aerodactyl that knew rock slide, when Aerodactyl couldn't learn it back in gen 2.

For shame Lance, for shame. tut tut tut.
 

Rutger

Banned
I actually wish more trainers would cheat in the games, it could add some interesting challenges. Maybe it could be a hard mode only thing if they ever brought that back.

I'd also love to see exp scaling brought back. One of the many good ideas in Gen V, don't know why it was left there.
 

Kyzer

Banned
I want Pokemon World Tournament 2, an even crazier more fleshed out version with online competitions and co-op.

Certain Pokemon after you unlock a certain whatever have the ability to Glide.

Certain Pokemon can be ridden like Gogoat.

Pokemon following you, using an even more advanced following algorithm similar to the beginning of XY in the forest, where they follow you but not at your heels at all times. They walk their slightly own way and stop to smell flowers and find things and stuff.

Tons of new surfing Pokemon models.

Co-op missions like entralink but more in depth and fleshed out.

Mega Kalos Starters.

Secondary region, Unova airport or something idk

Hard mode from the beginning.

Evolution during battles...



We will probably get none of these.

oh hey, an HD shot

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all it needs is a teenage pilot
Lmao right
 

brinstar

Member
I want Pokemon World Tournament 2, an even crazier more fleshed out version with online competitions and co-op.

Certain Pokemon after you unlock a certain whatever have the ability to Glide.

Certain Pokemon can be ridden like Gogoat.

Pokemon following you, using an even more advanced following algorithm similar to the beginning of XY in the forest, where they follow you but not at your heels at all times. They walk their slightly own way and stop to smell flowers and find things and stuff.

Tons of new surfing Pokemon models.

Co-op missions like entralink but more in depth and fleshed out.

Mega Kalos Starters.

Secondary region, Unova airport or something idk

Hard mode from the beginning.

Evolution during battles...



We will probably get none of these.

That's way too many changes for a Z version. From that list I'd say Kalos Megas and more Surf models have a decent chance and maaaaybe the World Tournament (or something like it) will come back, but the rest of that stuff is next generation territory.
 
The biggest thing I want is some kind of post-game battling facility. Either PWT2, a new Battle Frontier, something, anything that isn't just another Battle Maison.

Basically, give me that, a few new Megas and the typical Gym/Gym Leader shake up and I'll be happy.

I would love Hard Mode back and available from the start, but I'm not expecting it.
 

brinstar

Member
a Frontier or WT is my biggest hope just because it's so much easier to make competitively viable Pokemon now that I'd get much more use out of it.
 

ash_ag

Member
I want Pokemon World Tournament 2, an even crazier more fleshed out version with online competitions and co-op.

I was recently thinking that for a potential PWT2, it'd be better to give Gym Leaders a rest and flesh out the other leaders instead, meaning the Elite Four, Frontier Brains and other equivalents. Champions can stay, since they are a bit more universal.

  • Indigo E4: 4 (Gen 1) + 3 (Gen 2) = 7
  • Hoenn E4: 4
  • Sinnoh E4: 4
  • Unova E4: 4
  • Kalos E4: 4
  • Hoenn FB: 7
  • Sinnoh FB: 5
  • Subway Bosses: 2
  • Battle Chatelaines: 4
  • Total: 41
Meanwhile, the PWT had 48 GLs. The Hoenn twins and Unova triples were split, and Bianca, who isn't a GL, was also included. On the other hand, Iris and Koga weren't included at all, and Blue and Wallace were only on the Champions' tournament.

So, not counting Champions (who will have increased by a couple characters), we're just 7 characters short. Here are some ideas:

  • Battle Tower (Crystal) rep. Since Battle Tower in Crystal was focused on the online aspect, it didn't have any leader. Would be interesting to introduce one or more original new Johto characters.
  • Trainer Tower (FRLG) rep. Once again, an original new Sevii Leader-esque character would be great. They could draw some inspiration from the Battle Card e+ FRLG series.
  • Trainer Hill (Emerald) rep. Same situation as above. Battle Card e+ Emerald for inspiration.
  • Black Tower / White Treehollow rep. Similar to Trainer Tower and Trainer Hill, but this time we have the obvious choice of Benga.
After all is said and done, it's easy to break even with a couple random characters (à la Bianca).
 

GoldStarz

Member
Well if they do decide to change up the gym leader and add new one, I sure hope for the love of Arceus they finally finally give Dark a gym leader.

Freaking Fairy got one before them. ¬_¬;
Remember in PWT where they just had three random people serve as Dark-type reps lol


I liked that gap between the first and second gym, it was something different and it gave the impression that the Kalos region is huge.

Just a shame that they didn't keep it up throughout the whole game.
I remember when the game was first leaking and one of the leakers got to the gap and everyone was kinda freaking out because they were like "Oh wow this is game is actually gonna be long and have a lot to it and--" nope. It's just really poorly paced...


I will HM01 everyone if they HM01 Charizard. >_> <_< >_>
fixed

I want Pokemon World Tournament 2, an even crazier more fleshed out version with online competitions and co-op.
As much as I like the Looker Missions, they do need to have something more than that.


Pokemon following you, using an even more advanced following algorithm similar to the beginning of XY in the forest, where they follow you but not at your heels at all times. They walk their slightly own way and stop to smell flowers and find things and stuff.

Tons of new surfing Pokemon models.
I'd wait for Gen VII for that, since they can reuse the models they have for a few Gens, they can focus on doing other finer details like these. The following feature was pretty popular in HG/SS so it was kinda surprising that never saw a return yet.

Secondary region, Unova airport or something idk
There's still that unused train station in Couriway Town.

Hard mode from the beginning.
Anything to balance out the underwhelming easiness that was the Kalos League. Like, I wanna use the Exp Share/All so that my Pokemon are more evenly leveled, but I can't do that without becoming so overleveled there's no challenge. >_<
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There really is Z at this point

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Also I bet that pull-a-string Squishy goes "rororororororororo" like in the anime
 

Rutger

Banned
Anything to balance out the underwhelming easiness that was the Kalos League. Like, I wanna use the Exp Share/All so that my Pokemon are more evenly leveled, but I can't do that without becoming so overleveled there's no challenge. >_<

Bringing back exp scaling from Gen V would probably go a long way.
Not that it'd matter much, it's still gonna be a Pokemon game, it's still gonna be super easy unless you go out of your way to make it challenging.
 

Ryan_09

Member
I always considered changing Battle Style to "Set" instead of "Shift" to be "hard mode". Been doing it since as long as I can remember because it makes battles feel like a level playing field. ^-^
 

Nightbird

Member
Bringing back exp scaling from Gen V would probably go a long way.
Not that it'd matter much, it's still gonna be a Pokemon game, it's still gonna be super easy unless you go out of your way to make it challenging.

Wait, the level-based exp scaling is not present in Gen 6?
 
Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to beat Colress and it just ain't happening. This is really frustrating and not fun. It's not as ridiculous as fucking Roxie, but gotdammit it's close.

Here's my team.
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WO1DRwE.png

0nCcARq.png
bypk2Qq.png


I'd like to stick with this team, but I'm not against to getting another one for the situation as long as I won't have to do a ton of grinding to put it an appropriate level. I was trying to catch a Victini, but I ran into it unexpectedly and had to ko it because I ran out of balls. BTW catching legendaries in general is some ole bullshit.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
I am sooo bored and in dire need for any Pokémon Z news, that I may have already pre-planed my Pokémon team for Pokémon Z. ^_^;

I also changed up my Omega Ruby team to make it fresh and interesting.

Remember in PWT where they just had three random people serve as Dark-type reps lol

Ha ha I remember that.

I remember when the game was first leaking and one of the leakers got to the gap and everyone was kinda freaking out because they were like "Oh wow this is game is actually gonna be long and have a lot to it and--" nope. It's just really poorly paced...

I was on gaf when the game was leaked, ahhhh good times goood times indeed.

But yeah the pacing after the third gym is bad.

Wait, the level-based exp scaling is not present in Gen 6?

Yep, Game Freak took it out in favour for the Exp share.

Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to beat Colress and it just ain't happening. This is really frustrating and not fun. It's not as ridiculous as fucking Roxie, but gotdammit it's close.

Here's my team.
qKQ37l4.png
c7e0Eu0.png

UsxHHAf.png
WO1DRwE.png

0nCcARq.png
bypk2Qq.png


I'd like to stick with this team, but I'm not against to getting another one for the situation as long as I won't have to do a ton of grinding to put it an appropriate level. I was trying to catch a Victini, but I ran into it unexpectedly and had to ko it because I ran out of balls. BTW catching legendaries in general is some ole bullshit.

Colress team is mostly steel and Electric type so your Hitmonlee and Sandile should be able to take them out.

Though your Sandile lacks a good ground type move, you should teach it the TM Dig and try to get it to level 29 so it can evolve.
 

Weebos

Banned
Welp, wiped my Platinum nuzlocke on Fantina, that game is much more brutal than I remember.

Second gym has a freaking Roserade.

Oh well, I guess I will do White instead.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
Welp, wiped my Platinum nuzlocke on Fantina, that game is much more brutal than I remember.

Second gym has a freaking Roserade.

Oh well, I guess I will do White instead.

Fantina is pretty though to take down in a normal run, my Leafeon had to carry my team to victory.

God I love my Leafeon, so bulky and took down so many Gym Leader's Pokémon.
 
Colress team is mostly steel and Electric type so your Hitmonlee and Sandile should be able to take them out.

Though your Sandile lacks a good ground type move, you should teach it the TM Dig and try to get it to level 29 so it can evolve.

I can't get Dig since it looks like it's way past Castelia City. I was hoping I can avoid grinding since I'm already above his pokemon's levels. His strongest, Porygon 2 is at level 25. It is kind of hard to deal with him even with these two. I think his Metang is part flying because Low Sweep isn't super effective, Rotom is part flying when I looked it up so ground attacks won't work, and all his pokemon know psyshock and signal beam to counter Hitmonlee and Sandile. I can manage to get to Porygon 2. That's what's really killing me, that and Sandile can't take a hit.
 

Daemul

Member
I love it when people suggest to cut down the number of Pokémon. As if Game Freak isn't already cutting enough content away

Meh, it depends on how Pokemon evolves through the years. The series may eventually reach a point where it get's too cluttered and it needs a reboot, but that may not come for another 20 years.

I've always joked with friends that Gen X will be when Gamefreak have full a reboot of the series lol, it just sounds like the perfect time to do it.

and of course they'll complain if gamefreak cuts out their favorite

It wouldn't bother me, I'm one of those few (lucky) people who don't have a favourite Pokemon lol. I have Pokemon I dislike *cough* Genies *cough*, but I wouldn't say that I like any Pokemon more than the rest, they're all cool in my eyes.

At times I do feel like I'm missing out on having that connection with Pokemon that you've taken with you through every game and generation, but on the other hand not having a favourite allows me to give every Pokemon a fair shot, and stops things from getting stale from continuously having certain Pokemon in my teams.
 

Mr-Joker

Banned
I can't get Dig since it looks like it's way past Castelia City. I was hoping I can avoid grinding since I'm already above his pokemon's levels. His strongest, Porygon 2 is at level 25. It is kind of hard to deal with him even with these two. I think his Metang is part flying because Low Sweep isn't super effective, Rotom is part flying when I looked it up so ground attacks won't work, and all his pokemon know psyshock and signal beam to counter Hitmonlee and Sandile. I can manage to get to Porygon 2. That's what's really killing me, that and Sandile can't take a hit.

I see, I wasn't aware that you were playing a mod. I just assume you were playing the regular version.

Right Metang is Steel/Psychic so low sweep will do neutral damage on it and Rotom has Levitate so ground type attack won't affect it, unless you have a Pokémon with mold breaker ability.

And yeah while Sandile is your best bet, he is weak, hence why I suggested that you evolve him.
 

Daemul

Member
Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to beat Colress and it just ain't happening. This is really frustrating and not fun. It's not as ridiculous as fucking Roxie, but gotdammit it's close.

Here's my team.
qKQ37l4.png
c7e0Eu0.png

UsxHHAf.png
WO1DRwE.png

0nCcARq.png
bypk2Qq.png


I'd like to stick with this team, but I'm not against to getting another one for the situation as long as I won't have to do a ton of grinding to put it an appropriate level. I was trying to catch a Victini, but I ran into it unexpectedly and had to ko it because I ran out of balls. BTW catching legendaries in general is some ole bullshit.

This is the team you're using to go up against Stylish Researcher Colress?

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But seriously though, you'll probably need to evolve Desert Lizard(Sandile) to stand a chance.

EDIT:Mr Joker already covered it I see
 

Daemul

Member
Well if they do decide to change up the gym leader and add new one, I sure hope for the love of Arceus they finally finally give Dark a gym leader.

Freaking Fairy got one before them. ¬_¬;
.

LOL! I've long given up hope of this happening. They had the perfect chance to do this in Gev II where we 16 different Gym types, and we never got a Dark type gym. Hell, in Gen V we had 14 different Gym leaders, and STILL never got a gym leader who specialised in Dark types.

Dark type Pokemon will forever remain the domain of the villian teams and Elite 4 it seems.

Remember in PWT where they just had three random people serve as Dark-type reps lol

Shit had me in tears. Gamefreak pls.
 

jnWake

Member
Wut I just got a shiny Magikarp in a Wonder Trade. I feel kind of bad since I sent a Pansear lol. I got in a weird fully red ball, wonder what that is.
 

lupinko

Member
Wut I just got a shiny Magikarp in a Wonder Trade. I feel kind of bad since I sent a Pansear lol. I got in a weird fully red ball, wonder what that is.
That's a cherish ball.

Was the magikarp called &#12402;&#12429;&#12375;&#12414; by any chance?

Because if it has the pentagon and a cherish ball, it can only be called &#12402;&#12429;&#12375;&#12414; regardless of language setting. It was from the renovation or anniversary celebration thing of Pokemon Center Hiroshima this past summer.

Source: Me, because I farmed the same event Pokemon from PC Tohoku, but didn't get a shiny Magikarp.
 

jnWake

Member
That's a cherish ball.

Was the magikarp called &#12402;&#12429;&#12375;&#12414; by any chance?

Because if it has the pentagon and a cherish ball, it can only be called &#12402;&#12429;&#12375;&#12414; regardless of language setting. It was from the renovation or anniversary celebration thing of Pokemon Center Hiroshima this past summer.

Source: Me, because I farmed the same event Pokemon from PC Tohoku, but didn't get a shiny Magikarp.

Nah. It's called "4TheHalABit"... Although I looked at its moves and it seems it comes from that event. It has "Happy Hour" and "Celebrate". Those seem like event moves haha.
 
Nevermind, I somehow managed to beat him after asking for help. I'm not sure why that tends to happen after I give up and ask for help. It wasn't easy though.
 
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