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[GulAtiCa]

The old system was even worse for gyms. Gyms would stay the same for months. Never ever changing and always full. Presteiging was always a dumb idea.

Taking down a gym is VERY easy now. You have to prob battle all pokemon 4 to 5 times (if all full motivation). But, unlike the old system, the last 2 battles really only last seconds since cp is so low.

Getting 1 coin per hour is pretty fair. I think it would be better if you got 1 instantly by placing a Pokemon in a gym though. That would improve things by a lot.

 

[gutshot]

There's no way to see what gym your Pokemon are in, is there? I don't remember where I put them in case I want to berry them up.

You have to go through the Gym Badge screen. It would be nice if you could click on the Gym icon from the Pokemon profile too. Hopefully they add that at some point.

 

[PhoenixDawn]

I really like the new gym setup, it seems to have a pretty good balance of holding a gym while also allowing for turnover so gyms don't sit the same forever, at least in my city it seems like it'll be that way since there is essentially a 50/50 balance of yellow/blue people. I think the payout definitely needs tweaking, you should maybe get at least some coins for defeating a gym and putting your pokemon in there the first time every day since the new system seems pretty inconsistent/punishing in terms of getting consistent coins. Maybe I just have to figure out how to balance it to keep the coins coming in, but it seems wildly variable just based on my experiences since launch.

There's no way to see what gym your Pokemon are in, is there? I don't remember where I put them in case I want to berry them up.

Go to your gym badges and sort by "defended" then you can scroll through them and it'll tell you what pokemon is in each gym you have and how much health they have. It's pretty useful for keeping an eye on your pokemon's health and knowing where an attack is likely happening.

 

[Blue Geezer]

Except now it's a ton of work to take a gym while worrying about drive by boosting wasting 20 minutes of your time, just to toss in your pokemon and have them knocked out before you even get one coin. You seriously don't see the problem with this? Why put in all the work to take a gym if there is serious potential for no payoff? Why would rural players even bother when their gyms may stay for weeks for a measly 100 coins? Aside from your hard core players, this gym update is a serious downer.

I may be misunderstanding this but isn't it 1 coin per hour and a limit of 100 so that's 100 coins in 5 days. Which is double what the old system was?

What happens when the timer runs out on motivation naturally? I assume they just return back?

 

[Bedameister]

Already got the 100h badge. Getting the gold medal will be super easy. Same goes for feeding 1000 berries.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Berry feeding & defending badges will be easy. Take time, but easy. Lol at the 1000 Raids badge.

 

[Qwark]

From the sounds of it / from what I've seen. Their motivation / CP goes down much quicker over time/battles. So Pokemon who had cp > 3000 will go down VERY quick compared to lower CP Pokemon. As it honestly should.

You also get candy for feeding berries sometimes. I think once people start to figure that out, they'll go out of their way to feed Dragonites and Tyranitars for a chance at that rare (not the rare candy) candy, and that will keep motivation up for high CP mons.

What happens when the timer runs out on motivation naturally? I assume they just return back?

I think once it runs out naturally, somebody still has to beat them. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they return to you unless they're defeated.

 

[Firemind]

Except now it's a ton of work to take a gym while worrying about drive by boosting wasting 20 minutes of your time, just to toss in your pokemon and have them knocked out before you even get one coin. You seriously don't see the problem with this? Why put in all the work to take a gym if there is serious potential for no payoff? Why would rural players even bother when their gyms may stay for weeks for a measly 100 coins? Aside from your hard core players, this gym update is a serious downer.

They get stardust and candy from feeding their pokemon and they get to keep the gym. It's not like they get nothing. And now they don't have to get worried about being shaved by spoofers. If spoofing multi accounts take the gym down, the legitimate players also get coins, whereas shaving meant getting kicked out with no reward.

The old system was even worse for gyms. Gyms would stay the same for months. Never ever changing and always full. Presteiging was always a dumb idea.

Shaving was a real problem. They had to rework the system to make high cp pokemon less viable. I saw pictures in big cities where the bottom pokemon in lvl. 10 gyms were 100% iv max lvl. 40 dragonites using the power up bug. That's ridiculous.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

holy fuck someone tell me you still get your coins if your pokémon motivation goes all the way down and gets sent back to you


Had my mon in a gym for 12+ hour but it got sent back to me

 

[Firemind]

holy fuck someone tell me you still get your coins if your pokémon motivation goes all the way down and gets sent back to you


Had my mon in a gym for 12+ hour but it got sent back to me

Coin rewards have a delay now. I reckon Niantic will sort it out soon. I got 64 coins from playing last night and I still have three Pokemon in gyms. And I live in the suburbs. Not too shabby.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Just had a notification on my screen that my Arcanine has returned after 2 hours with a +2 coin sign. Neat

holy fuck someone tell me you still get your coins if your pokémon motivation goes all the way down and gets sent back to you


Had my mon in a gym for 12+ hour but it got sent back to me

It has to get knocked out. Can have 0 motivation and stay in gym, but needs to be knocked out. You will get coins. Might take a few minutes to show up sometimes.

 

[gutshot]

Reversal has a video of his first raid battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGFPe7xstCs

The raid party is about 75% spoofers. Niantic plz

 

[GulAtiCa]

Reversal has a video of his first raid battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGFPe7xstCs

The raid party is about 75% spoofers. Niantic plz

funny enough, watching that now. Poor Nick. Stuck at lv 34 like me. I'm actually surprised I'm actually light higher xp wise then him, considering he seems to be hatching eggs & using lucky eggs often in his videos. lol

 

[Cess007]

Am I the only one getting tons of freezes now? Maybe still due the servers? I got constant freezes in several menus.

Also, I love that my work's gym will never give coins again. Everyone is kick out monsters too quick to anyone able to get coins lol

 

[Hickbilly Deluxe]

Reversal has a video of his first raid battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGFPe7xstCs

The raid party is about 75% spoofers. Niantic plz

They already admitted they can't beat spoofers with this update. No point for them to even hide anymore really.

 

[Firemind]

Reversal has a video of his first raid battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGFPe7xstCs

The raid party is about 75% spoofers. Niantic plz

The raid join code will be a blessing in disguise.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

There's no way to see what gym your Pokemon are in, is there? I don't remember where I put them in case I want to berry them up.

You can. Go to your gym medals, then click each one with a Pokémon in it. Not exactly ideal, but better than before.

They need to let you click the gym icon on your Pokémon's info page and be taken to the gym. And let you see the gym's location on the map from that gym's info page, rather than scouring the map. And, in map view, show which gyms have Pokémon without clicking them. They finally have all of the information available, just not quickly and easily accessible.

 

[gutshot]

It looks like Pokemon with 3000+ CP loses 10% motivation/CP every hour, while Pokemon with <3000 CP just loses 1% every hour.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRo...er_the_time_analyzed/?st=j49urawf&sh=198c4570

So you'll want to power up your Blisseys and Snorlaxes to 2999 CP.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

So I had a Pokémon kicked out after 16 hours. No notification it returned and no coins so far. Anyone else see this?

 

[Firemind]

It looks like Pokemon with 3000+ CP loses 10% motivation/CP every hour, while Pokemon with <3000 CP just loses 1% every hour.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRo...er_the_time_analyzed/?st=j49urawf&sh=198c4570

So you'll want to power up your Blisseys and Snorlaxes to 2999 CP.

Sonuva bitch i just powered my blissey over 3000cp last week cause i found the number to be more rounded.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Coin rewards have a delay now. I reckon Niantic will sort it out soon. I got 64 coins from playing last night and I still have three Pokemon in gyms. And I live in the suburbs. Not too shabby.

Just had a notification on my screen that my Arcanine has returned after 2 hours with a +2 coin sign. Neat



It has to get knocked out. Can have 0 motivation and stay in gym, but needs to be knocked out. You will get coins. Might take a few minutes to show up sometimes.

Whew yeah i got my coins. I've gotten 30 coins since yesterday so far from being in five gyms.

Granted these are more coins than I earned with the old system most of the time, but I can't tell if its because I got a head start on everyone when it went live. lol

Am I the only one getting tons of freezes now? Maybe still due the servers? I got constant freezes in several menus.

Also, I love that my work's gym will never give coins again. Everyone is kick out monsters too quick to anyone able to get coins lol

Yeah had a handful of crashes right now

 

[IXI FalcoN]

Our best local valor player (37) is in a raid right now! She's sending us pics as she goes. It's a 24,162CP Blastoise, level 4 raid. She's solo and doesn't think it's doable without a team, but we'll see.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

It looks like Pokemon with 3000+ CP loses 10% motivation/CP every hour, while Pokemon with <3000 CP just loses 1% every hour.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRo...er_the_time_analyzed/?st=j49urawf&sh=198c4570

So you'll want to power up your Blisseys and Snorlaxes to 2999 CP.

whew thanks for the info. My highest CP mon is a Snorlax at 2938

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Still no coins. Wow I may have been screwed out of 16.

 

[JavyOO7]

Trainers 31 and over... you can now do Raid battles per Niantic Twitter. Fak. I'm only level 30...

 

[Cess007]

Trainers 31 and over... you can now do Raid battles per Niantic Twitter. Fak. I'm only level 30...

Crap. Still level 29 over here. It will be a while until I can participate on one if they don't lower the requirement a bit more

 

[gutshot]

Trainers 31 and over... you can now do Raid battles per Niantic Twitter. Fak. I'm only level 30...

Just got my first Raid Pass. HYPE.

Cmon, Tyranitar Raid Boss!

 

[IXI FalcoN]

It looks like Pokemon with 3000+ CP loses 10% motivation/CP every hour, while Pokemon with <3000 CP just loses 1% every hour.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRo...er_the_time_analyzed/?st=j49urawf&sh=198c4570

So you'll want to power up your Blisseys and Snorlaxes to 2999 CP.

So a 2999CP Snorlax or Blissey will decay 10 times slower than another 1 CP above it? Come on Niantic, wtf is this.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

They seriously need to fix this "Gym is under attack!" nonsense. Twice now I've been unable to join gyms because of it, despite them NOT being under attack.

 

[gutshot]

They seriously need to fix this "Gym is under attack!" nonsense. Twice now I've been unable to join gyms because of it, despite them NOT being under attack.

Yeah, just tried to join a gym and couldn't. Waited a couple mins to see if it would reset, then someone else got in ahead of me.

Lots of glitches and lag with the gyms ATM. Hopefully Niantic has a hotfix ready soon.

 

[Firemind]

They seriously need to fix this "Gym is under attack!" nonsense. Twice now I've been unable to join gyms because of it, despite them NOT being under attack.

My local group tested this and apparently when multiple people attack a gym, there will be a 10 or so minute window for people who attacked to join the gym. If I were to guess is it's to avoid people from stealing their spots when they put in the effort. It's not conclusive evidence though.

 

[GulAtiCa]

I'm lv 34 and got a raid pass. My raid screen no longer says I'm under level.


Edit. There is a raid near by and I can take it on. Lv 2 though

 

[PhoenixDawn]

Gah, just below the cut off for the raids yet. I'm hopeful it'll drop down to 29/30 tomorrow then I guess.

 

[zulux21]

Gah, just below the cut off for the raids yet. I'm hopeful it'll drop down to 29/30 tomorrow then I guess.

hopefully 25 so I can play raids with my friends.

 

[Cess007]

How do you guys get Raid Pass? Someone send me a pic of a Raid Pass Premium on the Shop; do you buy it?

 

[gutshot]

How do you guys get Raid Pass? Someone send me a pic of a Raid Pass Premium on the Shop; do you buy it?

Spin a gym disc to get a free one, only one per day. Or buy it for 100 coins in the shop.

Note: You have to be level 31+ to get it.

 

[Cess007]

Spin a gym disc to get a free one, only one per day. Or buy it for 100 coins in the shop.

Note: You have to be level 31+ to get it.

Yeah, that what I was guessing. Thanks for the info

 

[Dynasty]

Lvl 31. No raids in my area right now though.

 

[elguero]

I'm level 31 and just got a raid pass from a friendly gym. Beta expanding this weekend?

Edit: just reloaded the thread and found out I'm not special &#128514;

 

[Growlie19]

Yep, got myself a raid pass. Unfortunately, all sponsored spots in my area are Pokéstops AFAIK. So I might have to wait until they move on from sponsored gyms before participating. Oh well.

Walked back to my only gym to feed berries. My Vaporeon and three others barely lost any motivation while the Dragonite and Tyranitar were nearly depleted. They weren't kidding about stronger demotivation in stronger mons, yeesh!

 

[zulux21]

so do we have times on things now.

how long after a raid is triggered do people have to get to the raid.
at which point do we learn what pokemon they will face (aka during the countdown or after it launches)
after it launches how much time do you have to beat the boss?

 

[Doomsayer]

Why not just open raids to all levels? It makes no sense, now the higher levels are just going to stack even better mons while everyone else gets left in the dust.

 

[elguero]

There's a level four raid starting right down the street from me during my lunch break. Will report back.

 

[gutshot]

There's a level four raid starting right down the street from me during my lunch break. Will report back.

Awesome. Good luck!

 

[zulux21]

Why not just open raids to all levels? It makes no sense, now the higher levels are just going to stack even better mons while everyone else gets left in the dust.

it rewards the players who play the most. and in general is a fair way to beta test something.
you play more/harder you get some extra bonuses.

if you aren't level 31+ quite frankly you weren't ever going to catch up with the upper tier at this point anyways.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Finished my 1st raid boss against a Electrabuzz. Caught it. 5 of us took it on.

Why not just open raids to all levels? It makes no sense, now the higher levels are just going to stack even better mons while everyone else gets left in the dust.

They are beta testing it. Already at lv 31+

 

[Swamped]

Finished my 1st raid boss against a Electrabuzz. Caught it. 5 of us took it on.


They are beta testing it. Already at lv 31+

.

 

[Cess007]

Finished my 1st raid boss against a Electrabuzz. Caught it. 5 of us took it on.


They are beta testing it. Already at lv 31+

I'm curious. Everyone gets to catch the Pokemon on the Raid, or only one?

 

[GulAtiCa]

I'm curious. Everyone gets to catch the Pokemon on the Raid, or only one?

Everyone involved gets a chance once you beta it. You get a set of Premier Balls that you can use to catch it, the amount depends on how well you do, plus bonuses/etc.

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

level 34 got a raid pass but still says i am under leveled but on the bright side i stumbled into 3 mareeps and evolved a donphan today pretty jazzed about that