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The word there: "thought" she was the better candidate.
C'mon Kosmo. There's no way around this.
McCain called the tax claims “outrageous” and “disgraceful” in an interview with Politico Tuesday. He said he chose Palin “because we thought that Sarah Palin was the better candidate.”

“Why did we not take [Tim] Pawlenty, why did we not take any of the other 10 other people,” McCain said. “Why didn’t I? Because we had a better candidate, the same way with all the others. … Come on, why? That’s a stupid question.”
McCain also recently said he'd have still picked Palin, despite her derailing his campaign. Not Romney/Pawlenty/Huckabee, but Palin.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
You know what would be absolutely brilliant, so much so that I can't actually credit the Romney campaign with doing it? Letting everyone make a huge fuss over the tax returns and then finally releasing them and revealing that there's nothing bad in them at all. You'd seriously damage your opponents credibility.
 
I posted that on the last page in an admittedly busy post; coupled with an Obama ad openly asking whether Romney is hiding the fact that he may have paid no taxes at all some years, and I think that could be what the Obama camp is sitting on.

Some speculation swirls around 08/09 and the financial crash. Given Romney's reliance on investments as income, there's a chance he didn't pay any taxes in 08/09
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/07/17/what_romney_might_be_hiding.html
 

Tim-E

Member
I don't think this Bain stuff was going to cause a significant change in the polls, but it likely does reinforce Obama's support, weakens Romney's enthusiasm, and creates an easy narrative to compare his record and vision going forward off of. When Obama starts to factor in what he's accomplished or what he wants to do with things like taxes more into his campaign, he has a mountain of bad news about Romney to play off of.
 

KingGondo

Banned
You know what would be absolutely brilliant, so much so that I can't actually credit the Romney campaign with doing it? Letting everyone make a huge fuss over the tax returns and then finally releasing them and revealing that there's nothing bad in them at all. You'd seriously damage your opponents credibility.
It would be brilliant, but it's completely implausible.

There's damaging stuff in the tax returns he already released--the only reasonable conclusion is that there's something significantly worse in the older ones.
 
You know what would be absolutely brilliant, so much so that I can't actually credit the Romney campaign with doing it? Letting everyone make a huge fuss over the tax returns and then finally releasing them and revealing that there's nothing bad in them at all. You'd seriously damage your opponents credibility.

Not really. That kind of strategy could backfire in numerous amount of ways
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
It would be brilliant, but it's completely implausible.

There's damaging stuff in the tax returns he already released--the only reasonable conclusion is that there's something significantly worse in the older ones.

... what if... what if Romney somehow got some of the bank bailouts in '08/'09?
 

Tim-E

Member
Would you consider swift boat attacks as Chicago style politics?

No, it helped Republicans in that case. Chicago style politics is when you're aggressive and it helps democrats, which is unacceptable.


... what if... what if Romney somehow got some of the bank bailouts in '08/'09?

:lol Don't get my hopes up.

How would Halperin know what the Obama camp is sitting on?
 

Baraka in the White House

2-Terms of Kombat
The Obama Campaign is Chicago style politics at it's finest/worst. Simple as that.

A Democrat actually successful at controlling the narrative = DIRTY CHICAGO STYLE POLITICS. Romney might actually be able to fight back effectively if it weren't for the hired union thugs following him around threatening him with cement shoes.
 

KingGondo

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... what if... what if Romney somehow got some of the bank bailouts in '08/'09?
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Effect

Member
No, it helped Republicans in that case. Chicago style politics is when you're aggressive and it helps democrats, which is unacceptable.




:lol Don't get my hopes up.

How would Halperin know what the Obama camp is sitting on?

He might not know exactly what they have but could have been given hints from sources inside the campaign or lead to believe that they have other things that are more damaging.
 

Tim-E

Member
If there was nothing bad in there, then why would he be concerned about Obama having it? If its all good, then there should be nothing for him to distort.
 
Michele Bachmann calls Anthony Weiner's Muslim wife Huma Abedin a Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrator
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), apparently in need of some attention, has launched some sort of paranoid inquiry into whether the U.S. Congress has been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood. Some weeks ago, Bachmann sought the assistance of inspector generals in the State, Homeland Security, Defense and Justice Departments, asking them to investigate potential "policies and activities that appear to be the result of influence operations conducted by individuals and organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood."

"It appears that there has been deep penetration in the halls of our United States government by the Muslim Brotherhood,”
Bachmann told radio host Sandy Rios in June. “It appears that there are individuals who are associated with the Muslim Brotherhood who have positions, very sensitive positions, in our Department of Justice, our Department of Homeland Security, potentially even in the National Intelligence Agency."

Practicing Muslim and fellow Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) didn't take to kindly to Bachmann's insinuations, and sent her a letter asking her to provide him with "a full accounting of the sources you used to make the serious allegations against the individuals and organizations in your letters." He also warned her that there had better be "credible, substantial evidence" for her claims.

Well, today, Bachmann responded to Ellison with 16 pages worth of "evidence" implicating the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, to whom President George W. Bush created a "special envoy" position in 2008, and advocacy groups like the Islamic Society of North America and the Muslim Public Affairs Council. Bachmann doesn't make clear what evidence connects these latter groups to "infiltration" -- their mere existence seems sufficient to warrant her paranoia.

But by the far the strangest claim of "infiltration" that she cites is the one she leads off her letter with: longtime Hillary Clinton aide-de-camp Huma Abedin. In her letter, Bachmann tells Ellison that she is concerned about Abedin's familial connections to the Brotherhood, and raises concerns over her security clearance. As Alex Seitz-Wald reports for Salon:

As evidence, she pointed to Abedin’s late father, Professor Syed Z. Abedin, and a 2002 Brigham Young University Law Review article about his work. Bachmann points to a passage saying Abedin founded an organization that received the “quiet but active support” of the the former director of the Muslim World League, an international NGO that was tied to the Muslim Brotherhood in Europe in the 1970s through 1990s. So, to connect Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood, you have to go through her dead father, to the organization he founded, to a man who allegedly supported it, to the organization that man used to lead, to Europe in the 1970s and 1990s, and finally to the Brotherhood.
This makes me sick to the stomach. Minnesota, please kick this loony out.
 

Loudninja

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Obama Campaign Sues Ohio For Shortening Early Voting Period
The suit, filed in federal court, was the first filed by Obama’s campaign of this election.

The campaign claims changes made by the legislature created inequality among military voters who can cast early ballots through the day before the election and all other voters who only have until 6 p.m. on the Friday before the election to vote in-person absentee. This, the campaign contends, is a violation of the equal protection provision of the U.S. Constitution.

“The last three days of early vote are especially important to ensuring a free and fair election,” Obama for America-Ohio Senior Advisor Aaron Pickrell, Ohio Democratic Party Chairman Chris Redfern, and Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in a joint statement provided to the Beacon Journal today. “That is why today we are moving forward in the fight to reinstate the last three days of early voting and ensure that all Ohio voters can make their voices heard this November.”
http://www.ohio.com/news/break-news/obama-campaign-sues-ohio-over-early-voting-restrictions-1.320837
 

KingGondo

Banned
Well, that's not necessarily true. There could easily be stuff in there that's relatively innocuous in reality, but doesn't look good. You know, optics. ;)
That's gonna happen regardless.

One guy making tens of millions of dollars a year and (almost certainly) paying a lower tax rate than the average American looks awful. And there's definitely gonna be more of that than just in the last two years.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
You know what would be absolutely brilliant, so much so that I can't actually credit the Romney campaign with doing it? Letting everyone make a huge fuss over the tax returns and then finally releasing them and revealing that there's nothing bad in them at all. You'd seriously damage your opponents credibility.

Exactly what I was thinking.
 
You know what would be absolutely brilliant, so much so that I can't actually credit the Romney campaign with doing it? Letting everyone make a huge fuss over the tax returns and then finally releasing them and revealing that there's nothing bad in them at all. You'd seriously damage your opponents credibility.

I don't think that's the intentional plan (as not releasing them seems to fit with Romney's hyper cautious campaign), but I think that's what's going to end up happening. Well not nothing bad, but nothing really worse than what's in last year's tax returns.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Do you make post like this in the NFL thread when the Lions fuck up too? Damn Bears and their Chicago style offense.

Hey--I don't agree with Kosmo on much politically but we unite on behalf of the Lions.
 

RDreamer

Member
CHEEZMO™;39971872 said:
How does someone like her get elected? Seriously.

People like her and Allen West really make me wonder about some places in the country...


Then again, I'm apparently now living in the district that elected Glenn Grothman, so I guess I can't talk until we oust his stupid ass.
 
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