PoliGAF Debate #3 Thread of Hey Joe, where you goin' with that plunger in your hand

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http://nymag.com/news/businessfinance/bottomline/51007/

What will New York look like a year from now? The answer: bad and probably worse, and perhaps downright catastrophic. Three degrees of awful. The first step was passing the bank-bailout legislation. Now that it’s done—and if it didn’t get done we would have been looking at a guaranteed economic collapse—the critical issue will be presidential leadership. And while any president will be an improvement over the current one, there is a growing belief on Wall Street that Barack Obama has the capacity to lead us out of this wilderness while John McCain does not. I’ll go a step further: Obama is a recession. McCain is a depression.



Wall Street usually favors Republicans when it comes to managing the economy, but this time around the financial community is skeptical. John McCain has done everything he can to avoid talking about the economy, lest he be tarred with the brush of George Bush’s ineptitude. And when McCain has attempted to step into the fray, he’s been far from reassuring. First, he insisted that the fundamentals of the economy were sound; then he turned around and told us it was the end of the economic world as we know it, and suspended his campaign to scramble back to Washington and save the day on the bailout bill—only to have little visible effect. For all his talk of being a maverick, McCain looks an awful lot like President Bush on the credit crisis: He doesn’t seem to understand Wall Street or Main Street, he is dogmatically anti-regulation, and his economic team is a joke. Carly Fiorina almost destroyed the onetime best technology company in America, Hewlett-Packard, and Meg Whitman took eBay, the best dot-com player, and turned it into a mediocre franchise that has no growth. Both are perceived by Wall Street to be also-rans who are on the team because they have nothing else to do
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Cramer endorses Obama :D
 
It's hilarious how none of the cable news networks want to put Obama over the top. They're all stuck at 264. Colorado should certainly be considered a "lean Obama" state and the case could be made for Florida as well. There's been numerous poll results in the state with Obama leading well outside the margin of error.
 
Suikoguy said:
Five Thirty Eight Update for 10/14/08

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RapeApe said:
In the first three weeks of September, Barack Obama ran 1,342 television commercials in the Washington media market that reaches heavily populated and contested Northern Virginia.

According to The Nielsen Company, in the same period and market, John McCain aired just eight commercials on broadcast stations.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14572.html
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Comparing McCain to Noguiera is giving McCain far too much credit.
 
With all this focus on the Bradley effect, I think there's also an even bigger movement of people who favor McCain's intellectual and political acumen, but are ashamed/scared to admit so in light of an armed citizenry of Obamaniacs. 538 could very well have their predictions in reverse!
 
I love the media saying this is still close. It's so awesome. In the future, they must acknowledge that EVERY RACE will be "too close to call", because their standards are set at like 20 points or some shit :lol

Keep it close, MSM. Keep the voters motivated :D
 
FINALLY...I understood what the entire ACORN screaming from Fox news and McClown is about, basically people who were hired by ACORN scamed ACORN by giving them bogus voter registeration.

They didn't want to do the work but wanted money.
 
yoopoo said:
FINALLY...I understood what the entire ACORN screaming from Fox news and McClown is about, basically people who were hired by ACORN scamed ACORN by giving them bogus voter registeration.

They didn't want to do the work but wanted money.
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Exactly. And ACORN legally can't deny the registrations, because that would open the door to people only registering voters that they want to be registered.
 
From the Politico article:

Republicans are using every wrinkle and loophole in — ironically — the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law to try to keep pace and stretch their spending power.
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LOL
 
HylianTom said:
I'm wondering about how things would've been had he picked Huckabee or Romney.

Huckabee would've been loved by the base, and the guy is incredibly, incredibly charming. Super smooth. I could've seen him serving the ticket better than Palin.

Romney makes me look at the electoral map. New Hampshire, Michigan, and Colorado suddenly begin to look more likely for McCain. And with the economy in the headlines, he would've done much (rightly or wrongly) to reassure voters on the ticket's fiscal credentials.
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Huckabee would have been ideal. The man is great with the press, he's a great debater and he still would've got the base excited. I think he would be conducting himself far better than Palin is and the race would be closer.
 
yoopoo said:
FINALLY...I understood what the entire ACORN screaming from Fox news and McClown is about, basically people who were hired by ACORN scamed ACORN by giving them bogus voter registeration.

They didn't want to do the work but wanted money.
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Yes, and these people are already flagged by ACORN as suspicious and send them in a separate "suspicious" batch to be verified.
 
The fact that John McCain is exploiting loopholes in the biggest piece of legislation with his name on it would be merely simply amusing but for the fact that it represents a perfect metaphor for his campaign in general.
 
yoopoo said:
FINALLY...I understood what the entire ACORN screaming from Fox news and McClown is about, basically people who were hired by ACORN scamed ACORN by giving them bogus voter registeration.

They didn't want to do the work but wanted money.
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Moreover, false registration does nothing for false voting, Mickey Mouse, regardless of what Drudge says, still cannot fucking vote.
It's an excuse for the GOP to run their purging campaigns.
 
Tamanon said:
Exactly. And ACORN legally can't deny the registrations, because that would open the door to people only registering voters that they want to be registered.
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Sort of. ACORN also said that they estimate that they are able to flag 90%+ of the bogus registrations for the county election offices to throw out and those people get fired immediately.
 
Xeke said:
Huckabee would have been ideal. The man is great with the press, he's a great debater and he still would've got the base excited. I think he would be conducting himself far better than Palin is and the race would be closer.
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And he actually has new (to the two major parties) ideas.
 
Xeke said:
Huckabee would have been ideal. The man is great with the press, he's a great debater and he still would've got the base excited. I think he would be conducting himself far better than Palin is and the race would be closer.
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And I think above all everyone respects Huckabee. I disagree with him on some views but he is definitely someone I respect.
 
Like other people have said I like how the media is saying the race is too close to call. It'll bring more voters to the polls, and instead of mailing it in. It give a sense of urgency instead of sense of complacency.
 
Man, this does my soul some good.

GO OBAMA!!!!!



My mom, who became a US Citizen in June (July?) is going to vote for the first time....

MY MOMMA FOR OBAMA!!!!
 
Qwerty710710 said:
Like other people have said I like how the media is saying the race is too close to call. It'll bring more voters to the polls, and instead of mailing it in. It give a sense of urgency instead of sense of complacency.
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Which could result in a bigger obama turnout.
 
I'm filling out my absentee ballot and there is an envelope that I'm supposed to mail it back in.

On the envelope it says:

To protect your vote:

IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR ANYONE EXCEPT YOU THE VOTER TO MAIL OR TRANSPORT THIS ALLOT UNLESS THE ENVELOPE IS SEALED AND THE FOLLOWING IS COMPLETED.

Ballot mailed or transported by
____________________________________
(Signature of bearer)

____________________________________
(Print name of bearer)

____________________________________
(Address of bearer)​

Am I supposed to fill this out with my info or is the mail carrier supposed to fill this out?

Sorry, first time voting absentee.
 
Tamanon said:
:lol :lol Drudge:

He's reporting tenths of percentages now to make it seem closer.
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At this point I believe that Zogby is just a cruel, mean man who wants to be the one hope for a large group of people right before they are completely crushed. He did it in 2004, doing it again in 2008.

It's time for the RNC to pull the plug. They don't have to annouce it and they are already committed for a ton of independent expenditures, but putting any more gas in this engine isn't going to give it a better chance to win the race. They should pump money into a 41-seat Senate firewall (MS, GA, KY, MN) and shore up their vulnerable incumbents in low to medium R+ PVI districts in the House.

Keep in mind that House and Senate seats break late-NOT a good thing if you are a Republican right now.
 
man i hate counting my chickens before they hatch but man it is surreal

after all these months, countless volunteering hours, a billion debates, primaries, speeches, scandals, shocking events and hail mary's... we're almost there.

And we're most likely going to win.

The black guy with the name Barack HUSSEIN Obama, coming up in a violently xenophobic country where a faceless islamic evil is the boogie man... is probably going to win. Against the culture warrior claustrophobic zealots on the psychopathic, fearmongering right.

Shit this is so good. Fox News on election day is going to be better than getting a blowjob from Monica Bellucci, Scarlett Johanson and Angelina Jolie COMBINED.
 
CharlieDigital said:
I'm filling out my absentee ballot and there is an envelope that I'm supposed to mail it back in.

On the envelope it says:

To protect your vote:

IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR ANYONE EXCEPT YOU THE VOTER TO MAIL OR TRANSPORT THIS ALLOT UNLESS THE ENVELOPE IS SEALED AND THE FOLLOWING IS COMPLETED.

Ballot mailed or transported by
____________________________________
(Signature of bearer)

____________________________________
(Print name of bearer)

____________________________________
(Address of bearer)​

Am I supposed to fill this out with my info or is the mail carrier supposed to fill this out?

Sorry, first time voting absentee.
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I think that's for if you have someone else take it to the post office for you. So long as you put it in your mailbox or take it to the post office yourself I don't think that's necessary.
 
Amir0x said:
From the Politico article:
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I think Hito touched on this with the old thread - how the Republican efforts to create their permanent majority has left them hopelessly crippled in the significant growth voter demographics (youth, minority, professional). It's also worth pointing out that McCain-Feingold has was supposed to completely incapacitate the democratic party, and it's actually made them stronger and more in tune with the voting body. Meanwhile the GOP is left utterly dependent on the national committee and 527s.

Cramer said:
Carly Fiorina almost destroyed the onetime best technology company in America, Hewlett-Packard, and Meg Whitman took eBay, the best dot-com player, and turned it into a mediocre franchise that has no growth. Both are perceived by Wall Street to be also-rans who are on the team because they have nothing else to do
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:lol Brutal, but...probably fair.
 
Amir0x said:
man i hate counting my chickens before they hatch but man it is surreal

after all these months, countless volunteering hours, a billion debates, primaries, speeches, scandals, shocking events and hail mary's... we're almost there.

And we're most likely going to win.

The black guy with the name Barack HUSSEIN Obama, coming up in a violently xenophobic country where a faceless islamic evil is the boogie man... is probably going to win. Against the culture warrior claustrophobic zealots on the psychopathic, fearmongering right.

Shit this is so good. Fox News on election day is going to be better than getting a blowjob from Monica Bellucci, Scarlett Johanson and Angelina Jolie COMBINED.
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Have you never seen a war/horror movie in your life?
DON'T DO IT.
 
Carly Fiorina almost destroyed the onetime best technology company in America, Hewlett-Packard, and Meg Whitman took eBay, the best dot-com player, and turned it into a mediocre franchise that has no growth. Both are perceived by Wall Street to be also-rans who are on the team because they have nothing else to do
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Wow, cold burn, and 100% true. Compare Amazon and eBay-Amazon is continuing to expand into new areas and on-demand content delievery, eBay is stagnating and their entire revenue growth is based on higher fees and coercing more people into Paypal transactions.
 
Alright, what's the deal with Home Depot ads in this thread? Originally I thought they were in the old thread because of Biden's reference to hanging out there ( :lol ) but I did a search in this thread for mentions of it and came up with nothing.
 
Amir0x said:
Shit this is so good. Fox News on election day is going to be better than getting a blowjob from Monica Bellucci, Scarlett Johanson and Angelina Jolie COMBINED.
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You are the master of hyperbole.

But it is gonna be damn amazing.

Remember, remember, the fourth of November. :)
 
typhonsentra said:
Alright, what's the deal with Home Depot ads in this thread? Originally I thought they were in the old thread because of Biden's reference to hanging out there ( :lol ) but I did a search in this thread for mentions of it and came up with nothing.
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I think Biden has actually become a keyword to Google ads.:lol
 
RapeApe said:
http://blogxilla.com/blog3/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/cid-1341.jpg[IMG]

I'd like to thank this man for being a traveling agent of ignorance.[/QUOTE]
Anyone wanna guess what state that is?

It's got to be somewhere in the south, right?
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RubxQub said:
Anyone wanna guess what state that is?

It's got to be somewhere in the south, right?
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Could be anywhere. Here in New Jersey, racism is rampant and I see way more McCain/Palin yard signs.

Racism is all over the country.
 
Amir0x said:
man i hate counting my chickens before they hatch but man it is surreal

after all these months, countless volunteering hours, a billion debates, primaries, speeches, scandals, shocking events and hail mary's... we're almost there.

And we're most likely going to win.

The black guy with the name Barack HUSSEIN Obama, coming up in a violently xenophobic country where a faceless islamic evil is the boogie man... is probably going to win. Against the culture warrior claustrophobic zealots on the psychopathic, fearmongering right.

Shit this is so good. Fox News on election day is going to be better than getting a blowjob from Monica Bellucci, Scarlett Johanson and Angelina Jolie COMBINED.
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I was talking to my room mate 2 years ago...we were discussing if Obama could run for office for 2008 and win. He thought he could do it, I reminded him of the guy's name, and relative youth. I basically thought "no way". When he announced his campaign...I cringed a little bit because I just couldn't shake the feeling of "too soon".

Looks like I may be about to be proven wrong. And I couldn't be happier about it.
 
Obama, in his interview with Charlie Gibson baited John with "say it in my face" do you think he will bring up Sarah Palin AIP affiliation and John Vogler?
 
gluv65 said:
Obama, in his interview with Charlie Gibson baited John with "say it in my face" do you think he will bring up Sarah Palin AIP affiliation and John Vogler?
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Nah, he'll just defuse the charges then chastise him for even thinking about something like that during such horrible economic times.

Think McCarthy during his final hearings.

"Have you no shame sir? At long last, have you no decency?"
 
NSBrandon said:
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I kinda understand the sentiment.

If Seann William Scott, Matt Damon, and Wentworth Miller were in one room waiting for me, and TV showing a FoxNews apocalypse-style reaction to a 375EV landslide was in another room.. I'd be standing there in the middle, hesitating.

Who am I kidding? I'd turn the volume waaaaay up in Room #1, leave the door open, and bolt into Room #2.
:lol
 
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