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[GhaleonEB]

No wonder Obama is pushing early voting so hard.

It also allows the campaign to identify who has voted early, and thus target their get out the vote efforts at the reduced pool of voters who haven't voted yet. It's where Obama's better organization and ground game pays off. Get people to vote early, then concentrate on turning out those who don't; a one-two punch to the ground game.

Also -

McCain (R) 41
Obama (D) 44

New North Dakota poll. Third recent poll showing it close again, which is probably why Obama is moving resources back in. Of course, he's got money to burn at this point.

 

[Fragamemnon]

another poll shows Obama competitive (and leading, in this case) in North Dakota:

DFM Research for the North Dakota United Transportation Union. 10/13-14. Adults. MoE 4.4% (No trend lines)

McCain (R) 41
Obama (D) 44

Not a tipping point state. But one of those Ken Mehlman "Man-Date" states.

 

[Tamanon]

Wait a minute, this faux-plumber is actually on record saying Obama's tax plan "infuriates me." Holy shit, can we please expose this fucking GOP plant and move on. If the MSM devotes more than a single day to this nonsense, I am going to freak out.

Regardless of how Wurzelbacher would personally fare under the candidates' plans, he suggested to ABC News' Nightline that he is against all forms of progressive taxation.

During his telephone interview with ABC News, the Ohio plumber argued that the government should not tax some Americans at a higher percentage than others and argued that this principle should extend not only to taxpayers at his income-level but also to the world's richest man.

"I don't like it," said Wurzelbacher. "You know, me or -- you know, Bill Gates, I don't care who you are. If you worked for it, if it was your idea, and you implemented it, it's not right for someone to decide you made too much."

So....he wants a flat tax and doesn't want McCain's plan either, I assume?

 

[soul creator]

maaan, Joe the Plumber ain't got shit on my man Barney Smith

 

[Fragamemnon]

It's important to note that getting people into early voting clears them on your voter books as "banked". So you no longer have to worry about following up with them after they vote after one phone call or door knock.

I found it heartening that the Obama volunteers had called me literally before noon today asking if I knew about early voting and were able to mark me as "voted". They are really on the ball here in NC.

 

[Fatalah]

Speaking of Joe. Did we post the video of him on GMA today saying he was "contacted by them and asked to show up to a rally."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5jHpxlxnts (57 seconds in)

I think Joe was saying that he was contacted by the GOP to show up a at their own rallies. The same way some of us here are contacted by Obama's campaign via newsletter form.

But I still think this guy is a plant.....somehow. The way he doesn't reveal who he's voting for, it makes him look like he's an "undecided voter".

Simply to make people relate to him.

"yeah! i'M JUST like Joe the plumber! i don't trust obama, joe says to dig deeper!"

 

[The Librarian]

Dax, I was just making a joke about the People's Republic of Chapel Hill. Everyone here is voting for Obama.

You're joke wasn't funny.
:*(

 

[Tobor]

This is really going to be it, huh? 3 weeks of Joe the plumber. Way to limp to the finish line, McCain.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

McCain's stunts never cease to amaze me. Can't fault him for not trying.

He's talking about being asked to appear at a future rally with McCain, pretty sure.

 

[Loudninja]

DOW is up 285 points

 

[mj1108]

Speaking of Joe. Did we post the video of him on GMA today saying he was "contacted by them and asked to show up to a rally."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5jHpxlxnts (57 seconds in)

So he was a plant. This needs airtime.

 

[PhatSaqs]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/joe-the-plumber.html

So Mr. Plumber is against paying taxes according to income level period :lol

During his telephone interview with ABC News, the Ohio plumber argued that the government should not tax some Americans at a higher percentage than others and argued that this principle should extend not only to taxpayers at his income-level but also to the world's richest man.

 

[GhaleonEB]

It's important to note that getting people into early voting clears them on your voter books as "banked". So you no longer have to worry about following up with them after they vote after one phone call or door knock.

I found it heartening that the Obama volunteers had called me literally before noon today asking if I knew about early voting and were able to mark me as "voted". They are really on the ball here in NC.

Damn.

 

[Fragamemnon]

You're joke wasn't funny.
:*(

If you live on the "other side" of RTP it's grand humor. Durham and Chapel Hill residents wear our liberalism on our sleeves. For example, when the Military Commission Act is repealed, it'll be our Congressman who put the bill forth to do it.

 

[Hellsing321]

DOW is up 285 points

Joe the Plumber saves the market!

 

[ErasureAcer]

Has this been posted yet?

:lol

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

How long would it take for the rocket to get to the sun? Isn't it 93,000,000 miles away?

From what I've been able to find, the space shuttle travels at 25k MPH. That would mean the rocket would take 3,720 years to get to the sun. :lol

My guess is that it'd blow up before it ever got there, either by it hitting something else (planet, moon, comet, UFO, etc.), or exploding from the intense heat.

I can't speak to the validity of those speeds or what method would be used to dump something in the sun, but you've made a pretty big booboo here. Miles / miles-per-hour gives you an answer in hours. That's 3720 hours, not years.

I know nothing about space but couldn't a comet or a meteorite push it back towards the earth in X00 years?

Sure, but the odds of something smacking into the Earth itself is enormously greater, since the size of the target is enormously greater.

 

[The Lamonster]

Damn.

Where can I check to see if my state (MO) has early voting? I know I can send in an absentee ballot, but I will not be absent on election day so that's not allowed.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Has this been posted yet?

:lol

Everything on the net has been posted on Gaf dozens and dozens of times.

 

[ghibli99]

Speaking of Joe. Did we post the video of him on GMA today saying he was "contacted by them and asked to show up to a rally."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5jHpxlxnts (57 seconds in)

I think in his mind he went "Oh shit!" when he said that (his eyes kinda flutter for a second), and then tried to backtrack by saying that Obama just "showed up". Get the hell outta here, man... this guy has got to be wishing that this whole thing had never happened.

 

[ZealousD]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20081016/i/r796921493.jpg

Has this been posted yet?

:lol

This is PoliGAF. Everything has been posted yet.

 

[gcubed]

well this joe the plumber shit takes away from people talking about McCains "If you are in the military you dont need any formal training or certificate to teach children"

 

[Stoney Mason]

Where can I check to see if my state (MO) has early voting? I know I can send in an absentee ballot, but I will not be absent on election day so that's not allowed.

That doesn't sound right. What state are you in?

 

[mckmas8808]

Although the disposal of waste is a real problem. It is MINISCULE in comparison to the waste that is generated by coal and other means. With the needs of energy consumption growing exponentially in the coming decades, every year we waste wringing our hands over this issue is another wasted year. We have already lost the technological edge to France and Japan over building these facilities .. let's not also be forced to import energy over it.

It seems silly to quibble over the potential danger that a spill could cause in a remote part of the country, when 1000's of people a year are dying due to pollution in the air.

Are you for tax payer money to go to these companies to build these nuclear power plants?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I think in his mind he went "Oh shit!" when he said that (his eyes kinda flutter for a second), and then tried to backtrack by saying that Obama just "showed up". Get the hell outta here, man... this guy has got to be wishing that this whole thing had never happened.

The question was framed as any contact from McCain. It seems pretty clear he's talking about them contacting him after the debate and his run in with Bams.

 

[ZealousD]

well this joe the plumber shit takes away from people talking about McCains "If you are in the military you dont need any formal training or certificate to teach children"

Yeah I thought that seemed pretty kooky. You can handle a gun pretty well so clearly you know how to teach kids!

 

[ghibli99]

well this joe the plumber shit takes away from people talking about McCains "If you are in the military you dont need any formal training or certificate to teach children"

Good point... my wife and I were laughing our asses off at this one. Neither of us could believe what we were hearing. It was absurd.

 

[mckmas8808]

Early Voting Begins in North Carolina Today

Hopefully the NC state website updates with early vote totals in addition to their voter registration totals.

It looks like they are waiting to by a new PS3 model. :lol

 

[The Blue Jihad]

I think that is theoretically possible, but mathematically improbable. The odds of nuclear space trash getting dinged by something and coming back to Earth as a result is probably as likely as dropping a marble from an airplane at 40,000 feet and hitting my Civic windshield.

So you're telling me there's a chance!

 

[ErasureAcer]

This is PoliGAF. Everything has been posted yet.

Ok, well how about this one?

 

[GrapeApes]

lol@ Mika Brzezinski's dad on the top left. I'm sure she's not going to be happy about this.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Where can I check to see if my state (MO) has early voting? I know I can send in an absentee ballot, but I will not be absent on election day so that's not allowed.

http://earlyvoting.net/states/abslaws.php

Looks like MO has no early voting.

 

[ghibli99]

The question was framed as any contact from McCain. It seems pretty clear he's talking about them contacting him after the debate and his run in with Bams.

Ahh, I see what you're saying... when he says he was contacted to show up at a rally, I guess it is about a rally *after* the debate. Damn.

 

[The Lamonster]

That doesn't sound right. What state are you in?

That's pretty universal - you can't vote absentee if you'll be present on election day.

Missouri, btw.

 

[rSpooky]

So I listen to Joe the you know who talk and he sounds like someone who allready had a preconceived idea about taxes and this is fine. When you watch the clip with Obama you get the feeling he knows this but still takes 5 minutes to talk to the guy and really explain what and why .. I thought this was cool.

Now on Joe's point of "Obamas plan is socialism and it is wrong, because why should I be punished for workign hard" argument. I think he is way off base here. First off all as many asked over and over again what is wrong with it ? ( I ask this especially to people that claim to be devout Christians).
But secondly, Joe .. you are not making 250k right now .. many people do not. What Obama is trying to do is give you and the rest like you a BREAK so that you have a bigger chance to actually reach that milestone one day. In return however you will have to pay a little more when you reach that milestone so others can continue trying to reach the same milestone with you . Not willing to do so sounds very selfish to me and exactly the reason for so many people living under the poverty lin.

Am I wrong here or what? If so set me straight.

 

[The Lamonster]

http://earlyvoting.net/states/abslaws.php

Looks like MO has no early voting.

Thanks. Oh well.

 

[The Librarian]

If you live on the "other side" of RTP it's grand humor. Durham and Chapel Hill residents wear our liberalism on our sleeves. For example, when the Military Commission Act is repealed, it'll be our Congressman who put the bill forth to do it.

Now you owe me one. Tell me a funny. NOW.

 

[Stoney Mason]

That's pretty universal - you can't vote absentee if you'll be present on election day.

Missouri, btw.

They flood you with applications for them if you live in FL. Perhaps some states are more restrictive.

 

[ZealousD]

Hey guys, guess what?

We have a time table for withdrawl in Iraq. Middle of 2011.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-as-us-agrees-to-pull-out-by-2011-962874.html

Also, soldiers and contractors won't have legal immunity from Iraqi law outside of US bases.

 

[Mandark]

How can you type when you have pom poms in your hand?


RAH RAH

Says the guy waving a foam finger for John McCain Rudy Giuliani Newt Gingrich who is it this week?

Seriously though, folks. Nuclear plants in the US, when they were being built, cost on average three times their projected price tags.

The experience in the UK was similarly horrible, where the government was unable to sell off nuclear plants when they privatized the energy sector because they weren't cost competitive. The taxpayers have had to foot the bill for the less efficient energy production and eventually the huge decommissioning costs.*

Arguments for nuclear development are based much less on its record than on a promise that this time things will be different. Really! We mean it! We've got new technology and replicable standard design!

Well, that could be true. But I don't want the government to spend billions of dollars through tax credits, low interest loans, default insurance, etc. on that possibility.

Let the French try it out and see if it works. So far it's not looking great.

In the meantime I endorse the Gruco plan. We've got so much room to improve for home energy use (wasn't this a ToxicAdam hobbyhorse back in the day?), and renewables are sounding ready for prime time. Let's get the low-hanging fruit and see where we are in a few years.




*The UK experience is why I don't trust the French model too much. If there's a major political commitment to a program, the people in charge of that program will do as much as they can to hide its costs and justify its existence. The real figures about nuclear production in the US didn't come until they were trying to sell the plants to private buyers.

 

[so_awes]

wow

extremely racist Palin supporters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

 

[mckmas8808]

I always wonder when I read about early voting - how many people really do so? I mean percentage wise? Is it worth paying any attention to?



edit: that's what I get for not reading the thread - 18% of all votes cast in 2004? woah. Either Obama's "early voting" initiative really worked, or this will be a record turnout year, or the voter turnout in 2004 was rather low. Probably a combination of the three, actually.

No! 2004's turnout was the highest in American history! And that 18% is up through Wedensday. That number will continue to go up as the week goes on. It could hit 30% before the election.

 

[The Librarian]

wow

extremely racist Palin supporters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

Already been posted.

But don't feel bad.

 

[gkryhewy]

It looks like they are waiting to by a new PS3 model. :lol

No, dude, those are lines :lol

 

[GitarooMan]

Nice typo on that Republican Jewish flyer, it's "judgment" not "judgement"

 

[BobTheFork]

...I just talked to my mom and my dad forgot to sign his mail-in ballot...
I really hope this kind of thing doesn't happen allot. Oh the shame

 

[Mandark]

Hey guys, guess what?

We have a time table for withdrawl in Iraq. Middle of 2011.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-as-us-agrees-to-pull-out-by-2011-962874.html

Also, soldiers and contractors won't have legal immunity from Iraqi law outside of US bases.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

It's almost a given that the agreement allows them to change their mind based on the situation on the ground, and both of the parties negotiating this (the Bush and Maliki administrations) want a continued US presence.

Either way it won't bind a president Obama, so it's not that hugely important.

 

[harSon]

So Joe doesn't make anything near $250,000? What kind of fucking stupid question was he asking then? "You know what Barrack? I don't make millions now but some day I may, why is it that I'll theoretically be taxed for a wage I may or may not achieve?" Ugh...

 

[gkryhewy]

Nice typo on that Republican Jewish flyer, it's "judgment" not "judgement"

Both are correct, despite what microsoft word tells you.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

PHOTOS: BARACK OBAMA campaigns today at Mack's Apple Orchard in Londonderry, NH

US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) speaks at a campaign event at Mack's Apple's orchard in Londonderry, New Hampshire, October 16, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young

US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) speaks at a campaign event at Mack's Apple's orchard in Londonderry, New Hampshire, October 16, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young

US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) speaks at a campaign event at Mack's Apple's orchard in Londonderry, New Hampshire, October 16, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young

Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shakes hands with supporters at a community event in Londonderry, N.H., Thursday, Oct. 16, 2008.
(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shakes hands with supporters at a community event in Londonderry, N.H., Thursday, Oct. 16, 2008.
(AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

Supporters reach out to US Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) at a campaign event at Mack's Apple's orchard in Londonderry, New Hampshire, October 16, 2008. REUTERS/Jim Young