PoliGAF Debate #3 Thread of Hey Joe, where you goin' with that plunger in your hand

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Maher: "I also called her a stewardess. And I apologize... to stewardesses."
 
reilo said:
King: "Isn't it funny that Joe the Plumber has done more interviews than Sarah Palin?"
Maher: "Dammit! The bloggers are beating me to my jokes."

:lol :lol :lol
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King:You called Sarah Palin a stewardess
Maher: And I apologized...to stewardess.
 
Nate just ate up Matt Drudge and spat him out:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-1016.html

With seven different daily tracking polls to work with -- one of which releases three separate versions of its model each day -- there is a lot to choose from for those who might seek to cherry-pick results.

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Slow news day, Matt? If this is a two-point race right now, I'll eat Drudge's fedora. None of the dozen or so other polls that were in the field this week shows a race that close. Nor do either of the alternate versions of Gallup's model, including the so-called Likely Voters II model that I find most credible. (Drudge, of course, had no interest in featuring the Zogby poll, as he had for the past several of days on his site, but which today showed Obama gaining ground.)

Let me be clear: I don't blame Drudge for trying to drive the narrative. Unlike certain other folks, it's not as though he's made any claim to being objective. With real news -- which polls aren't -- he generally has excellent and entertaining instincts.

I do, however, blame those of who allow yourselves to have your day ruined when Drudge moonlights as some kind of polling analyst.
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kkaabboomm said:
mccain at the al smith dinner speaking now
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This is actually pretty funny.

Although, it isn't so funny when you replace "Joe the Plumber" with "Sarah Palin", and it actually has the ugly stigma of being real.
 
HOLY SHIT :lol :lol :lol

McCain: "I can't shake the feeling, that even some of you in here, full of New York Democrats, are even pulling for me. I can see you sitting there Hillary."

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
wow, didn't think Letterman would actually be giving mccain as hard a time as it seems he will be tonight. questioning about his pic of palin, gordon liddy/bill ayers, campaign tactics etc.
 
You couldn't make the shit up in this campaign if you tried. Everything about this plumber guy is fraudulent. Yet the media orgasms on him, driving whatever narrative Mccain pulled out of his hat, and he's suddenly a fucking poster boy for something, I just don't know what.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
WTF did McCain suspend his campaign to host a celebrity roast?
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No, the joke was that he suspended all of his senior staffers and let Joe the plumber run shit.
 
i wonder what the McCain jesus freak/inbred supporters think of him stopping in the middle of an election to yuck it up with a "terrorist" and make jokes about Acorn.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
i wonder what the McCain jesus freak/inbred supporters think of him stopping in the middle of an election to yuck it up with a "terrorist" and make jokes about Acorn.
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Dude. You still sound bitter over the Finals. Did it kill your sense of humor?
 
reilo said:
Dude. You still sound bitter over the Finals. Did it kill your sense of humor?
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no i think its funny, im talking about the McCain supporters who loathe Obama. This kind of flies in their face. +1000 for McCain for this though. ITs the most genuine he's been in a couple years.

edit: And that last line was awesome.
 
Fox318 said:
Why can't McCain be like this during all of his campaign?
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You asked, he answered:
Ninja Scooter said:
no i think its funny, im talking about the McCain supporters who loathe Obama. This kind of flies in their face. +1000 for McCain for this though. ITs the most genuine he's been in a couple years.
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Then again, McCain has only himself to blame for the hate and bigotry infused into his supporters.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
no i think its funny, im talking about the McCain supporters who loathe Obama. This kind of flies in their face. +1000 for McCain for this though. ITs the most genuine he's been in a couple years.

edit: And that last line was awesome.
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You're looking at the John McCain of 2000. Not the Bush-McCain he runs as.
 
:lol :lol :lol

I could support this type of candidate, despite my policy differences.

Too little, too late.
 
kos outlines the ever-rising bar for victory
  • Electoral College(369)
  • Republican strongholds (Pres wins in MT, GA, NC, IN, ND)
  • Kentucky Senate (decapitate leadership / 2004 Daschle's revenge)
  • Georgia Senate (2002 Cleland revenge)
  • North Carolina Senate (Hating Dole on general principle, I guess)
  • California Proposition 8 (gay marrage)
  • Colorado “right-to-work”
  • Arizona 3rd (boot loony toon Shadegg
  • California 4th(boot loony toon McClintock)
  • Connecticut 4th (exile Republicans from all New England seats)
  • Wyoming At-Large and Texas 7th (Cheny and Bush Sr's old districts)
  • Florida 18th, 21st, and 25th(Eliminate all minority presence from the GOP caucus)
That is some ambitious shit. Some are pretty likely already. I'd say the electoral college, NC Sen, Prop 8, and a couple of the House races have good chances. Maybe 2-3 of the surprise Red States. Anything beyond that would be pretty amazing.

In terms of what actually matter though, I don't really see NC-Sen or WY-All/TX-7 as that important. Honestly the only things I really want to see are: Electoral college smash, GA-Sen, CO labor referendum. That would be enough.

Beating on some of the symbolic House races would also be nice. Personally the nutjob I'd most like to clobber is Inhofe, but that ain't gonna happen.
 
I think this'll helps how that McCain is genuinely a good man, he was just desparate and unsure about winning and ended up surrounding himself with terrible political advisors.
 
Man, if McCain's advisers had an ounce of sense between them they would be pushing this McCain for the rest of the election. If the base doesn't like it too bad, pandering to the base has cost McCain a lot.
 
Gruco said:
kos outlines the ever-rising bar for victory
  • Electoral College(369)
  • Republican strongholds (Pres wins in MT, GA, NC, IN, ND)
  • Kentucky Senate (decapitate leadership / 2004 Daschle's revenge)
  • Georgia Senate (2002 Cleland revenge)
  • North Carolina Senate (Hating Dole on general principle, I guess)
  • California Proposition 8 (gay marrage)
  • Colorado “right-to-work”
  • Arizona 3rd (boot loony toon Shadegg
  • California 4th(boot loony toon McClintock)
  • Connecticut 4th (exile Republicans from all New England seats)
  • Wyoming At-Large and Texas 7th (Cheny and Bush Sr's old districts)
  • Florida 18th, 21st, and 25th(Eliminate all minority presence from the GOP caucus)
That is some ambitious shit. Some are pretty likely already. I'd say the electoral college, NC Sen, Prop 8, and a couple of the House races have good chances. Maybe 2-3 of the surprise Red States. Anything beyond that would be pretty amazing.

In terms of what actually matter though, I don't really see NC-Sen or WY-All/TX-7 as that important. Honestly the only things I really want to see are: Electoral college smash, GA-Sen, CO labor referendum. That would be enough.

Beating on some of the symbolic House races would also be nice. Personally the nutjob I'd most like to clobber is Inhofe, but that ain't gonna happen.
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Fucking amazing article. This guy is a genius.
 
SoulPlaya said:
I think this'll helps how that McCain is genuinely a good man, he was just desparate and unsure about winning and ended up surrounding himself with terrible political advisors.
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I eventually think that if Obama wins McCain will be viewed as a great political tragedy.
 
Maybe McCain has given up? And is just going to try to salvage his reputation at this point? With the RNC threatening to shift money into congressional races, I could him somewhat conceding the presidential race.
 
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