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Does the nominee still have Diabetes? Could the Messiah heal her, or does she just not want to ask? What is protocal (sic) on miracle healings?

http://twitter.com/glennbeck

That's all he has to say on the subject it seems

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Here is an example of Hillary's advisers agreeing that many in the left were sexist against Sarah Palin.

 

[APF]

the issue is that the Right loves to uses veiled racist/sexist remarks all the time... for instance, they have successfully labeled Pelosi as a 'bitch.' Hmm.. a women in power, how can we demonize her???!

Ask Obama fans, they have plenty of ways to demonize Clinton.

 

[mckmas8808]

No, he acknowledged it earlier!

Mckmas8808 -- "reasonable levels"; right on. Historic relationships between prices, incomes, and rents. Looks like we're (nationally) still 10%-20% overvalued by those measures, with two complicating factors: incomes and rents are both experiencing downward pressures.

I would still say that there's about another 20% for home prices to fall on the downside, with the potential for some overcorrection given the rates of decline. Call it 15-25%.

Damn it!!! Weren't we 20% away like 3 months ago? Seems like it should be only 10%-15% to go now.

 

[Barrett2]

http://twitter.com/glennbeck

That's all he has to say on the subject it seems

Following Glenn Becks's Twitter? I think that's the definition of rock bottom...

 

[Particle Physicist]

Ask Obama fans, they have plenty of ways to demonize Clinton.

This board was nasty, I agree.. but I am talking about Democrats in a power position.. not bloggers or random joe schmoes ... where did the whole 'Clinton is a bitch' thing originally come from though? That sentiment was around well before she decided to run for President.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Uh...Rush Limbaugh? Jesse Helms? Trent Dole? Uh, Jeff Sessions? That could become a big list

Hmm, look at Jim Webb of VA.

quotes from his book:

Jimmy: "He got that ****** band in there again. It sounds like a damn juke joint."

Red: Personally, "Jimmy, I like ****** music. In fact, I even like Negroes!"

Jimmy: "Well, so do I. I think everybody should own at least one." -- P.42

I'm an Old South ******, he thought suddenly, smiling and nodding to Ambassador somebody or other. Yes, massa. Smilin over here, massa. Pickin it up over her, massa. Whooee. My mind right, massa." -- P.122

Discussing retiring to Miami, FBI agent Drought says: "and the ****** are everywhere, you're not going to get away from them." -- P.208

Two North Vietnamese nurses attended Red in the hospital, flirting with him coyly, until one day when one of them came to him, took off her top, stuck her breasts in Red's
mouth, and masturbated him." -- P.398

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/09/wapo_shhh_jim_w.html

Also, I am sure you are aware of Robert Byrd's past.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Here is an example of Hillary's advisers agreeing that many in the left were sexist against Sarah Palin.

Hmm, Clinton aides attempting to stir up the Puma crowd? Great example

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

This board was nasty, I agree.. but I am talking about Democrats in a power position.. not bloggers or random joe schmoes ... where did the whole 'Clinton is a bitch' thing originally come from though?

Jim Webb, read my previous post.

Also, power is subjective. Many would say Limbaugh is powerful yet he isn't a politician. Man would say he isn't powerful.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Hmm, Clinton aides attempting to stir up the Puma crowd? Great example

So now you are pushing the endzone farther? You asked for an example and I gave you one. You may like to assume they had political motives for defending Palin (and you may be right) however they made the defense none the less.

 

[bishoptl]

I find it highly amusing that Mr. Steam is attempting to equate the proclamations of a comedienne with the numerous, systemic and unapologetic racist and sexist declarations of numerous, high-level Republican leaders and elected officials.

carry on

Also, power is subjective. Many would say Limbaugh is powerful yet he isn't a politician. Man would say he isn't powerful.

Which is why any Republican official fool enough to call him out for his bullshit immediately bows to pressure and publicly kisses his ass in the market square within 48 hours :lol

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I find it highly amusing that Mr. Steam is attempting to equate the proclamations of a comedienne with the numerous, systemic and unapologetic racist and sexist declarations of numerous, high-level Republican leaders and elected officials.

carry on

So you didn't care to read the ramblings of Jim Webb, US Senator? (Dem)

 

[PantherLotus]

:lol You just won't quit.

 

[Jonm1010]

So you didn't care to read the ramblings of Jim Webb, US Senator? (Dem)

Characters in a book do not equal racist ramblings of the author.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

:lol

Is that a :lol towards me? If so, why?

 

[Particle Physicist]

*sigh* racist remarks from random characters in a senator's book is very different than a whole party trying to define their opposition in negative racial and gender terms.


keep on googling though.. this is fun! :/

 

[Justin Bailey]

Shit, shit! I'm all over the place today.

It IS fiction.

 

[bishoptl]

So you didn't care to read the ramblings of Jim Webb, US Senator? (Dem)

Fictional book? edit: beaten

I said numerous and systemic. If you want to play the game of "which party's leaders indulge in more racist behaviour and associations", that's a list the Republicans will come out on top every single time no matter how much you squirm.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Hmm, look at Jim Webb of VA.

quotes from his book:

Jimmy: "He got that ****** band in there again. It sounds like a damn juke joint."

Red: Personally, "Jimmy, I like ****** music. In fact, I even like Negroes!"

Jimmy: "Well, so do I. I think everybody should own at least one." -- P.42

I'm an Old South ******, he thought suddenly, smiling and nodding to Ambassador somebody or other. Yes, massa. Smilin over here, massa. Pickin it up over her, massa. Whooee. My mind right, massa." -- P.122

Discussing retiring to Miami, FBI agent Drought says: "and the ****** are everywhere, you're not going to get away from them." -- P.208

Two North Vietnamese nurses attended Red in the hospital, flirting with him coyly, until one day when one of them came to him, took off her top, stuck her breasts in Red's
mouth, and masturbated him." -- P.398

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/09/wapo_shhh_jim_w.html

Also, I am sure you are aware of Robert Byrd's past.

edit: fictional book? omg :lol

Byrd...yea, I'll accept that.

I'm not moving goal posts, your argument is a joke. It's not hard to see what the Hillary aid comments were about. I think there were sexist attacks on Palin though - but on sites like this or DailyKos, not from democratic leaders.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Characters in a book do not equal racist ramblings of the author.

Ahh gottcha. And I am sure if a republican senator had written books with using the N word in any connotation it wouldn't be lambasted by you right?

 

[adamsappel]

Howabout you read the article first bud. Of course, if you are ok with white firefighters not receiving a promotion simply because they are white, than hey, more power to you. I should add they had to take a test for the promotion for which they passed but no african american did. The county decided not to give the promotion to anyone because no african american passed the test. BTW, an hispanic male also passed the test. The counties decision was confirmed to be solely based on no african american passing the same test.

Again bud, read the article I posted FIRST. I.E. her dismissing a case in which firefighters lost their promotion because there no african american male passed the same test. I would say you are dropping more BS than I am here. You are dismissing any bias against her simply because repubs may have a problem with her.

Nice, three times and you refuse to answer. You had a hissy fit when I wouldn't respond to your question but avoid mine. That tells me more about you then your argument or lack there of itself.

As I've said before, this test simply confirms that Negroes are not smart enough to be firefighters. What other conclusion can be reached?

 

[bishoptl]

Ahh gottcha. And I am sure if a republican senator had written books with using the N word in any connotation it wouldn't be lambasted by you right?

You can feel free at any time to speak to the facts placed in front of you, as opposed to flailing about in conjecture.

That would be nice.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

It's amazing, whats good for the goose with some of you is definitely not good for the gander. Repubs are posterized as being racist, almost the devil himself here. Yet if a dem does something that you would lambast a republican for, its "but but but" galore. You accuse me and repubs being so partisan yet I haven't seen any non-partisan discussion or saying how the dems are wrong yet by some of you. I can admit that calling Obama a muslim terrorist is simply WRONG. I have not seen any of you say the same about those who call Bush a terrorist or hitleresque. I am sure that you will throw some witty response at me being ignorant or a joke or a conspiracy theorist or what have you. However, it would be nice to see some of you take off your democrat goggles for a few seconds.

 

[dave is ok]

Uh...Rush Limbaugh? Jesse Helms? Trent Dole? Uh, Jeff Sessions? That could become a big list

Michele Bachmann probably said worse things than all of them, and she's an elected official

 

[Jonm1010]

Ahh gottcha. And I am sure if a republican senator had written books with using the N word in any connotation it wouldn't be lambasted by you right?

In a book of fiction? No. Unless that book happens to be about little Jimmy and his journey through America eradicating minorities through any means necessary. I.E. depends on the context.

I think the fact that you are resorting to characters in a fiction book to try and win an argument where the other side of that argument can basically find a slew of stuff every year from the start of the Southern Strategy onward.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

You can feel free at any time to speak to the facts placed in front of you, as opposed to flailing about in conjecture.

That would be nice.

I am ont flailing about in conjecture at all. I posted a comic from a dem that was racist to the core against Condoleezza yet that was "only a blogger". I posted claims by Hillary Clinton's advisors that some dems and media were being sexist, yet "that was only politically motivated". So no matter what I post many of you will make an excuse to continue painting the dems as the shining light of the American political system and at the same time portray the opposing party as being racist and sexist to the core.

 

[The Librarian]

It's amazing, whats good for the goose with some of you is definitely not good for the gander. Repubs are posterized as being racist, almost the devil himself here. Yet if a dem does something that you would lambast a republican for, its "but but but" galore. You accuse me and repubs being so partisan yet I haven't seen any non-partisan discussion or saying how the dems are wrong yet by some of you. I can admit that calling Obama a muslim terrorist is simply WRONG. I have not seen any of you say the same about those who call Bush a terrorist or hitleresque. I am sure that you will throw some witty response at me being ignorant or a joke or a conspiracy theorist or what have you. However, it would be nice to see some of you take off your democrat goggles for a few seconds.

Nevermind.

 

[PantherLotus]

OMG!! The Republicans accidently forwarded their talking points against Sotomayor to the media. :lol :lol

The GOP Talking Points On Sotomayor
By Eric Kleefeld - May 26, 2009, 11:57AM

Oops. The Republican National Committee prepared a detailed set of talking points for key Republicans to use regarding the Sotomayor nomination -- and then accidentally sent it to the media.

On the one hand, the talking points say to put up an initially fair-minded neutral approach: "Until we have a full view of the facts and comprehensive understanding of Judge Sotomayor's record, Republicans will avoid partisanship and knee-jerk judgments - which is in stark contrast to how the Democrats responded to the Judge Roberts and Alito nominations."

On the other hand, the talking points go on to lay out some clear lines of attack:

• Liberal ideology, not legal qualification, is likely to guide the president's choice of judicial nominees.
...

• Justice Souter's retirement could move the Court to the left and provide a critical fifth vote for:

• Further eroding the rights of the unborn and property owners;

• Imposing a federal constitutional right to same-sex marriage;

• Stripping "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance and completely secularizing the public square;

• Abolishing the death penalty;

• Judicial micromanagement of the government's war powers.​

Another :lol for good measure. Republicans: the internet; don't you wish you invented it?

 

[JayDubya]

If the list is numerous and the problem systemic, then populating that list won't be difficult.

 

[Learn2read]

Is this fool equating public statements of public figures to lines of dialogue between fictional characters in a novel?

 

[scorcho]

Admit it guys - Webb is just as racist as Jeff Sessions! Thank goodness Sessions doesn't hold any rank or esteem within the RNC.

 

[bishoptl]

stuff

I'm still waiting for some additional evidence from you of numerous and systemic racial baiting on the part of the Democrats. Hell, I'll give you a headstart - we'll tally up party comparisons from any decade you like up to present day.

The only caveat? Let's collate evidence from the non-fiction section of the library.

If the list is numerous and the problem systemic, then populating that list won't be difficult.

You and I agree wholeheartedly on that point. In my proposed party comparison, however, the Republican party "wins" in a landslide.

 

[The Librarian]

OMG!! The Republicans accidently forwarded their talking points against Sotomayor to the media. :lol :lol

The GOP Talking Points On Sotomayor
By Eric Kleefeld - May 26, 2009, 11:57AM

Another :lol for good measure. Republicans: the internet; don't you wish you invented it?

:lol :lol

 

[thefro]

Rush says Obama and Sotomayor are racist against white folks (which of course means Obama hates himself)

http://thepage.time.com/rush-limbaugh-on-sonia-sotomayor-nomination/

So, here you have a racist. You might want to soften that and you might wanna say a reverse racist. And the libs, of course, say that minorities cannot be racists because they don't have the power to implement their racism. Well, those days are gone because reverse racists certainly do have the power to implement their power. Obama is the greatest living example of a reverse racist and now he's appointed one -- getting this, AP? -- Sonia Sotomayor to the U.S. Supreme Court ...

So she's not the brain that they're portraying her to be, she's not a constitutional jurist. She is an affirmative action case extraordinaire and she has put down white men in favor of Latina women. She has claimed that the court is all about making policy. So yes, there's a golden opportunity. Take this to the mat. Take it to the wall. The people need to know what Obama really believes in and this is how it could happen. Now will the Republicans do it? That's another question.

 

[dave is ok]

"You ain't my bitch, nigga. Get your own fries" - Barack Obama

ANOTHER RACIST DEMOCRAT.

 

[PantherLotus]

More from the Republican talking points accidentally released:
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/05/26/rnc-fumbles-sotomayor-talking-points/

Here's the talking points:

o President Obama's nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court is an important decision that will have an impact on the United States long after his administration.

o Republicans are committed to a fair confirmation process and will reserve judgment until more is known about Judge Sotomayor's legal views, judicial record and qualifications.

o Until we have a full view of the facts and comprehensive understanding of Judge Sotomayor's record, Republicans will avoid partisanship and knee-jerk judgments - which is in stark contrast to how the Democrats responded to the Judge Roberts and Alito nominations.

o To be clear, Republicans do not view this nomination without concern. Judge Sotomayor has received praise and high ratings from liberal special interest groups. Judge Sotomayor has also said that policy is made on the U.S. Court of Appeals.

o Republicans believe that the confirmation process is the most responsible way to learn more about her views on a number of important issues.

o The confirmation process will help Republicans, and all Americans, understand more about judge Sotomayor's thoughts on the importance of the Supreme Court's fidelity to the Constitution and the rule of law.

o Republicans are the minority party, but our belief that judges should interpret rather than make law is shared by a majority of Americans.

o Republicans look forward to learning more about Judge Sotomayor's legal views and to determining whether her views reflect the values of mainstream America.

o Liberal ideology, not legal qualification, is likely to guide the president's choice of judicial nominees.

o Obama has said his criterion for nominating judges would be their "heart" and "empathy."

o Obama said he believes Supreme Court justices should understand the Court's role "to protect people who may be vulnerable in the political process."

o Obama has declared: "We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom, the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor or African-American or gay or disabled or old-and that's the criterion by which I'll be selecting my judges."

o Justice Souter's retirement could move the Court to the left and provide a critical fifth vote for:

o Further eroding the rights of the unborn and property owners;

o Imposing a federal constitutional right to same-sex marriage;

o Stripping "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance and completely secularizing the public square;

o Abolishing the death penalty;

o Judicial micromanagement of the government's war powers.​

 

[tanod]

Ahh gottcha. And I am sure if a republican senator had written books with using the N word in any connotation it wouldn't be lambasted by you right?

You should check this link. It's quite illuminating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de5F8rrZEsU

EDIT: dang. I was beaten. I do have the link though.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I am ont flailing about in conjecture at all. I posted a comic from a dem that was racist to the core against Condoleezza yet that was "only a blogger". I posted claims by Hillary Clinton's advisors that some dems and media were being sexist, yet "that was only politically motivated". So no matter what I post many of you will make an excuse to continue painting the dems as the shining light of the American political system and at the same time portray the opposing party as being racist and sexist to the core.

I've seen the people arguing with you referring to GOP officials and party leaders, and you are responding in kind with Dem...bloggers, advisors and characters from a fiction novel. So perhaps you can see the disconnect here.

Stripping "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance and completely secularizing the public square;

Glad to see the GOP worried about the important stuff.

 

[bishoptl]

And I am sure if a republican senator had written books with using the N word in any connotation it wouldn't be lambasted by you right?

I am ont flailing about in conjecture at all.

I don't think you know what the word "conjecture" means.

 

[Learn2read]

I'm still waiting for some additional evidence from you of numerous and systemic racial baiting on the part of the Democrats. Hell, I'll give you a headstart - we'll tally up party comparisons from any decade you like up to present day.

The only caveat? Let's collate evidence from the non-fiction section of the library.


You and I agree wholeheartedly on that point. In my proposed party comparison, however, the Republican party "wins" in a landslide.

Well, best look post-WWII as dynamics were pretty different before then, but yeah.

I'm pretty unaware of Democrats exploiting rascism for electoral advantage to the point that they even gave it a name

 

[JayDubya]

Rush says Obama and Sotomayor are racist against white folks (which of course means Obama hates himself)

http://thepage.time.com/rush-limbaugh-on-sonia-sotomayor-nomination/

I believe I found the quote he's referring to:

In 2001, Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech declaring that the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”

In her speech, Judge Sotomayor questioned the famous notion — often invoked by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her retired Supreme Court colleague, Sandra Day O’Connor — that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases.

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor, who is now considered to be near the top of President Obama’s list of potential Supreme Court nominees.

Hrrrrm.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I'm still waiting for some additional evidence from you of numerous and systemic racial baiting on the part of the Democrats. Hell, I'll give you a headstart - we'll tally up party comparisons from any decade you like up to present day.

The only caveat? Let's collate evidence from the non-fiction section of the library.


You and I agree wholeheartedly on that point. In my proposed party comparison, however, the Republican party "wins" in a landslide.

As Governor of South Carolina, Ernest F. Hollings personally led the fight against lunch counter integration in his state. The New York Times reported that Hollings "warned today that South Carolina would not permit 'explosive' manifestations in connection with Negro demands for lunch-counter services." The Times reported that Hollings called a news conference on the subject where he "challenged President Eisenhower's contention that minorities had the right to engage in certain types of demonstrations" against segregation. Hollings told reporters at the press conference that Eisenhower was "confused" and had done "great damage to peace and good order" by supporting the rights of minorities to protest segregation at the lunch counters. (SOURCE: "Warning by Hollings." New York Times, March 17, 1960.)

Let me guess, your response will be "but that was 40+ years ago, it doesn't apply today."
Hopefully you don't feel this way

 

[PantherLotus]

o Republicans are the minority party, but our belief that judges should interpret rather than make law is shared by a majority of Americans.

This is the line that tells me that Republicans are intent on keeping their audience as completely ignorant of how the law works for as long as possible.

 

[bishoptl]

Let me guess, your response will be "but that was 40+ years ago, it doesn't apply today.

I'm still waiting for some additional evidence from you of numerous and systemic racial baiting on the part of the Democrats. Hell, I'll give you a headstart - we'll tally up party comparisons from any decade you like up to present day.

Either you choose not to read, or fail to comprehend what you're reading. Based on the last 10 minutes evidence, I suspect the latter.

Hopefully you don't feel this way

Why should I tolerate blacks in my place of business?

 

[PantherLotus]

Proposition 8 Upheld By California Supreme Court

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prop8-decision27-2009may27,0,6677891.story

 

[scorcho]

And there's a reason why Dixiecrats eventually left the Democratic Party and shifted to the Republican. I can't remember what is, though.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Either you choose not to read, or fail to comprehend what you're reading. Based on the last 10 minutes evidence, I suspect the latter.


Why should I tolerate blacks in my place of business?

And I am still waiting for your long list showing the republican party is a party of racism and sexism.

 

[Jonm1010]

I am ont flailing about in conjecture at all. I posted a comic from a dem that was racist to the core against Condoleezza yet that was "only a blogger". I posted claims by Hillary Clinton's advisors that some dems and media were being sexist, yet "that was only politically motivated". So no matter what I post many of you will make an excuse to continue painting the dems as the shining light of the American political system and at the same time portray the opposing party as being racist and sexist to the core.

No one is saying that Democrats are devoid of racism (did you miss the long debates on here during the election about the Bradley effect or the countless pieces on the daily show and others about racist Dems in Ohio?) What most are saying, is your examples suck, and that racism at the top levels of the party pales in comparison to your side and thus when introducing the question "compared to what?" that what being your side, claiming that the democratic party is racist on the level your party has sustained since at least the late 60s, is absolutely laughable to compare. And that any examples that you bring up are severe outliers in recent times, if they exist at all. Where as your party is basically finding new things to be racist about every month.

If its not the magic negro song its Michelle Bachman, if its not Michelle Bachman its Tom Tancredo taking money from white supremacist groups in Colorado and spouting off about Mexicans being basically the scourge of the earth. If its not Tancredo its Palin and the McCain campaign using racist fears to label Obama a muslim (which is meant to imply terrorist, since, you know, all muslims are terrorists).

 

[JayDubya]

Why should I tolerate blacks in my place of business?

Technically, it appears the man in question was angry at Eisenhower for supporting the right to protest.

 

[Learn2read]

As Governor of South Carolina, Ernest F. Hollings personally led the fight against lunch counter integration in his state. The New York Times reported that Hollings "warned today that South Carolina would not permit 'explosive' manifestations in connection with Negro demands for lunch-counter services." The Times reported that Hollings called a news conference on the subject where he "challenged President Eisenhower's contention that minorities had the right to engage in certain types of demonstrations" against segregation. Hollings told reporters at the press conference that Eisenhower was "confused" and had done "great damage to peace and good order" by supporting the rights of minorities to protest segregation at the lunch counters. (SOURCE: "Warning by Hollings." New York Times, March 17, 1960.)

Let me guess, your response will be "but that was 40+ years ago, it doesn't apply today."
Hopefully you don't feel this way

Who also later admitted he was wrong and even endorsed Jesse Jackson for President. But that's beside the point, going back to the south at the cusp of the Civil Rights movement to equivalently rascist Democrat is LOLOLOLOL