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[dabig2]

This says Arab not Muslim.

Doesn't matter. The GOP's problem in the OP as stated is definitely as racial (way more actually) as it is religious.

 

[diaspora]

This was the problem that Conservatives had in the last Canadian election. East and South Asian minorities as well as minorities from the middle east can be found to be strongly religious and consequently socially conservative. Being xenophobic though threw a wrench into any support they could have wrangled out of them this time though.

 

[Cerium]

With a motherfucking bullet, wonder what happen in the mid oughts that cause the hard turn over?

I don't think there was a specific dramatic event like 9/11 with the Muslims. As you can see in the chart this has been going on steadily since the 90s. Part of it is probably a generational shift; more young Asians went to college and reached voting age, and education correlates with liberal politics.

Part of it is also because Asians tend to have pragmatic philosophies. Democrats have moved to the center and Republicans have moved to the fringe. Asians recognize extremism and reject it.

The 2012 jump is also probably explained at least in part because Obama is very highly regarded by the Asian community.

 

[YourMaster]

Yes, we need Rank Order Voting.
Going to be tough to get implemented. Since you would have to convince Democrats to cede some of their parties power. Current Republicans would never in a million years.

Rank order voting is complex. A simple parliament works just as well: Get a big number of seats in the parliament, and whoever gets enough votes nationally for one seat gets one. Simply put, if 0,5% of the people vote communist, that means 1 of the 200 seats will be taken by the communist party. Laws need a majority of seats to go into effect, constitution changes a super-majority.

Districts are always hell, even if gerrymandering isn't a thing. This is because it strongly favors big parties over small ones, and thus old thinking over progress.

 

[RastaMentality]

Wow, republicans could really kill it if they tapped into the religious bloc of minority voters instead of appealing to racists. Crazy shit. It's crazy no one in their party has even cared to try.

 

[aeolist]

Wow, republicans could really kill it if they tapped into the religious bloc of minority voters instead of appealing to racists. Crazy shit. It's crazy no one in their party has even cared to try.

its heavily enforced orthodoxy means that nobody can do so, anyone who tried would be shut out of the establishment and primaried from further right. ironic that the characteristics that have let them accomplish so much will kill them eventually.

 

[Scott32020]

I wonder what the party makeup would be if the GOP abandoned white nativism.

Depends if they went the socially liberal/fiscally conservative (libertarian) route or the socially conservative, but more moderate on civil liberties and foreign policy route (similar to pre-9/11 Republicans, or Bush's 2000 election platform at least)

edit: these aren't complete opposites, but whether they changed on issues such as marriage or abortion [the libertarian wing of the Republican party is largely pro-life on abortion, for instance] would impact how much of their core base would need to shift

 

[SimpleGamer]

Well, I mean, you've got serious Republican candidate Ted Cruz saying stuff like:

We'll defeat radical Islamic terrorism...carpetbomb them into oblivion..don’t know if sand can glow in dark..we’re going to find out.​

So who can be surprised?

I mean do these guys even listen to themselves sometime?

 

[Delusibeta]

That...might actually change next year. They mostly accomplished that through the flare up of the Tea Party and problems getting people to vote in non-presidential elections, but if Trump does get the GOP nomination than there might actually be a swing back towards blue

I'm not hopeful. But if you asked me last year I'd say it would be 2024 before the Dems retook the Senate and the House. Now...maybe its sooner

Honestly? If it's Clinton vs Trump next year, I'm half tempted to put £10 on Trump winning. Ultimately, it's going to boil down on whether or not Hilary can get the people of colour into polling booths, and frankly I'm not sure she can.

 

[metalslimer]

Honestly? If it's Clinton vs Trump next year, I'm half tempted to put £10 on Trump winning. Ultimately, it's going to boil down on whether or not Hilary can get the people of colour into polling booths, and frankly I'm not sure she can.

Trumps toxic rhetoric will get people to the polls even if they don't like Hilary.

 

[GaimeGuy]

People forget that Joe Lieberman was the Vice Presidential running mate of AL Gore. He's Jewish which could explain the 78% figure.

Muslims and Jews have a helluva let more in common that Muslims and protestants

 

[Voysa Reezun]

Muslims and Jews have a helluva let more in common that Muslims and protestants

Well, I don't know about that. Muslims and Southern Baptists have a surprising amount in common. Muslims and Episcopalians, not so much. It really depends on the sect.

EDIT: And of course, I fall victim to my own point because it also depends on the sects of Islam and Judaism that you're comparing to Protestant sects. My sense is that Protestantism has a slightly more varied range of sects than either Islam or Judaism, but I'm speaking out of my ass on that one.

 

[Rico Tubbs]

I don't think there was a specific dramatic event like 9/11 with the Muslims. As you can see in the chart this has been going on steadily since the 90s. Part of it is probably a generational shift; more young Asians went to college and reached voting age, and education correlates with liberal politics.

Part of it is also because Asians tend to have pragmatic philosophies. Democrats have moved to the center and Republicans have moved to the fringe. Asians recognize extremism and reject it.

The 2012 jump is also probably explained at least in part because Obama is very highly regarded by the Asian community.

Aside from affirmative action, Asian-Americans are pretty much solidly progressive on almost all issues including immigration, abortion, and even raising taxes to cut the deficit. Obviously, Asian-Americans are not completely monolithic, but it should definitely be concerning for Republicans that the fast-growing racial demographic is trending solidly blue. This New York Times op-ed details why they are reliable Democrats these days.

Why Are Asian-Americans Such Loyal Democrats?

Today’s Asian Americans are not only liberal on the expected issues like health care reform, immigration reform, and educational reform, but they also seem to espouse liberal views across a wide range of unexpected issue areas like environmental politics, affirmative action, and the like. We even find, in our 2012 National Asian American Survey, that nearly 2 out of every 3 Asian Americans who report earning more than $250,000/year supported an approach to reducing the federal budget deficit that would raise taxes on those earning more than $250,000-a-year.

 

[bengraven]

 

[adamsappel]

You can do better than that! I won't even bother with the photos of Bush kissing his cheek (or the 'shopped ones kissing his lips).

 

[nacimento]

Well, the devout ones have the same pre-medieval social issues stance as the Republicans. But the Republicans decided to choose the other way to get votes.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Bigoted rhetoric alienates minorities. News at 11.

 

[quackamole]

Get rekt.

 

[timetokill]

Makes sense. Once they got one of their own into the White House, naturally they would rally behind his party.

 

[bomma_man]

boxing legend Muhammad Ali was a Republican and became a Reagan supporter

Too many hits to the head

 

[QuiteWhittle]

Trumps toxic rhetoric will get people to the polls even if they don't like Hilary.

Black turnout in Louisiana jumped up 20 points to 80 percent(!) in 1991 from 1987 when state KKK leader David Duke managed to get the second run-off spot during the gubernatorial election. People just aren't going to stand by and let some hateful asshole lord over them.

 

[dcdobson]

I think the Republican Party, if it's interested in remaining competitive in presidential politics, will inevitably become a far more inclusive party (though still conservative). It'll probably take way too long, though.

 

[jmood88]

Cubans still pretty loyal

Maybe the old ones in Miami but I don't think the rest of them are reliably republican anymore.

 

[AxelFoley]

boxing legend Muhammad Ali was a Republican and became a Reagan supporter

I'm not sure about that, but I know he didn't vote for McCain doe.

 

[Kisaya]

I believe it. My parents were pretty conservative with my dad being a Reagan supporter. The war in Iraq definitely made them shift the other direction.

 

[Erheller]

Aside from affirmative action, Asian-Americans are pretty much solidly progressive on almost all issues including immigration, abortion, and even raising taxes to cut the deficit. Obviously, Asian-Americans are not completely monolithic, but it should definitely be concerning for Republicans that the fast-growing racial demographic is trending solidly blue. This New York Times op-ed details why they are reliable Democrats these days.

Why Are Asian-Americans Such Loyal Democrats?

That article has some good points, but it portrays Asian Americans as unilaterally successful people, when in fact, there's a significant number of Asian Americans that live in poverty or close to it. American media likes to focus on the success stories and pretend like there aren't any problems, but the reality is much more complicated.

From the article:

The political liberalism of Americans of Asian descent is notable given their affluence, success in the marketplace and the high status of jobs they hold.

No, it's really not. There are a lot of Asian Americans in "high status" jobs like medicine and engineering and academia, but there are virtually no Asian Americans in other "high status" jobs like in politics or entertainment or as company executives. Asian Americans might be successful in some areas, but most recognize that there are still racial institutions that block them from being successful in many others.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Honestly? If it's Clinton vs Trump next year, I'm half tempted to put £10 on Trump winning. Ultimately, it's going to boil down on whether or not Hilary can get the people of colour into polling booths, and frankly I'm not sure she can.

I wouldn't be surprised if the black vote goes down in 2016, but blacks are still strongly Democrat. More importantly, Trump's Mexican rhetoric has made him incredibly unliked by Hispanics. Hispanics and women are who Republicans need to win the 2016 election and with Clinton Trump would perform worse than Romney for the latter.

 

[Piecake]

That article has some good points, but it portrays Asian Americans as unilaterally successful people, when in fact, there's a significant number of Asian Americans that live in poverty or close to it. American media likes to focus on the success stories and pretend like there aren't any problems, but the reality is much more complicated.

Well, I think the unsaid assumption is that it is an average/median. On average, Asians are doing well. On average, whites are doing well. On average, the rest are doing poorly. There are plenty of poor asians and poor whites, but that is what you should expect in a capitalist society without a strong welfare state.

No, it's really not. There are a lot of Asian Americans in "high status" jobs like medicine and engineering and academia, but there are virtually no Asian Americans in other "high status" jobs like in politics or entertainment or as company executives. Asian Americans might be successful in some areas, but most recognize that there are still racial institutions that block them from being successful in many others.

No doubt that is a problem, but I really don't see how this influences voting patterns. I mean, how many jobs in politics, entertainment or CEO jobs are out there? Not many.

 

[Vicetrailia]

Perhaps to get the white vote republicans must be non-inclusive though. If they diversified to compete with democrats they'd lose what they have. But at least a 3rd super far right party would form.

 

[freeofgreed]

GOP continues to alienate themselves yet again.

 

[Condom]

Perhaps to get the white vote republicans must be non-inclusive though. If they diversified to compete with democrats they'd lose what they have. But at least a 3rd super far right party would form.

Then that isn't the white vote but the nazi vote.

 

[FStubbs]

Wow, republicans could really kill it if they tapped into the religious bloc of minority voters instead of appealing to racists. Crazy shit. It's crazy no one in their party has even cared to try.

Believe it or not Thad Cochran did in the last Senate GOP primary in Mississippi. Facing defeat at the hands of the Tea Party, he turned to black voters and they showed up for him. Surprisingly enough. The Tea Party was livid that they moved over to the GOP primary to get Cochran re-elected.

 

[Jonm1010]

I think the Republican Party, if it's interested in remaining competitive in presidential politics, will inevitably become a far more inclusive party (though still conservative). It'll probably take way too long, though.

Thats the rub, they should have started already but at this point I think they are too far gone. 08 and then 12 was when they had the perfect opportunity to hitch their wagon to a new strategy to modernize the party but they decided to not only double down but to go even further right.

I mean you carry this shit on another 4 - 10 years until it looks like the demographics really are about to turn you into a regional party and you have successfully pissed off all the minorities, you can't just roll that shit back.

 

[Savitar]

Republicans these days are narrowing down who can support them due to their basic attitude and racism, if they were more inclusive they could probably beat the Democrats more often than not due to their party base usually voting. Go figure.

It's a pity third parties in the US are simply not a factor.

 

[jay]

So the argument is Muslims would love to back racists, just not racists who are racist against Muslims?