Exactly, hence why we need to spread the word that (if the worst-case scenario happens) that it isn't Capcom's fault. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if this pushes Capcom to make up for Marvel's pettiness.
Polygon: Yes, a new Marvel vs. Capcom game is in development. (X-Men gone, MCU focus)
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I figure no because Marvel fans already know what it is when it comes to the lack of X-Men in recent Marvel games, casual Marvel fans would be content anyways because the MCU is the biggest movie franchise of all time and could not be more popular, and MvC fans will buy for the gameplay anyways because they're already aware how crack it is and how the franchise has a history of making new fans for unlikely characters.
GuileBootCamp
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I would bank on this game having a really solid Capcom roster, heavy on fan-demanded characters.
I say all the characters that debuted in MSH should be up for redesign. I don't think they need to be forever beholden to the gameplay design decisions from that one game. I'm a broken record on this, but I think it's wasting character potential and limiting creativity to be so strict about keeping those move sets. It was mostly OK to bring them back in MvC3 due to the long gap after MvC2 and nostalgia factor, but I think they ultimately suffered for it. If most of the X-Men are out, this feels more like a reboot, so just shake move sets up as well.
Except I find that the opposite is true. If you actually do look into it - beyond the things you hear on forums and on twitter - it's really nowhere near as dramatic as it's made out to be.
There are current X-Men books, headlining ones even, and it's not like Wolverine stayed particularly dead after they supposedly killed him out of spite.
In fact, since Marvel supposedly started this vendetta, X-23 has taken up the Wolverine mantle, offering - if anything - a wide open goal for FOX to continue the "Wolverine" franchise beyond Hugh Jackman's departure.
Is X-Men a property Marvel thinks about differently now because they have their own cinematic universe to tend to? Sure, absolutely. Is the situation on the comic side *anywhere close to* as dire as it's made out to be? When you do your research; no.
In fact, issue 0 of the big event series Inhumans vs X-Men came out today. Unless I'm mistaken there are currently four (?) X-Men books going, and even more of you count standalone ones like All-New Wolverine. They're doing a pretty poor job burying X-Men.
God Hand is way way more beloved than Asura's Wrath, if for no other reason than the latter's reputation as a big QTE. Hell I liked Asura's Wrath a lot more than I expected to and I can't deny it. But yeah the begging for Gene to be in MVC has a long and storied tradition so here's hoping they finally listened.
Asura as a character is made for MVC though. He'd be fun to have in, but if I had to choose one I know who I'd pick.
Katt from BOF2 is my longshot Capcom choice. Easy to come up with a moveset for her too.
All my 'this will never happen' picks on the Marvel side already happened in MVC3 or became much more likely post-GOTG. Hard to believe that it wasn't THAT long ago I had to explain to people who Rocket Raccoon was.
TheDinoman
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UMVC3 had that down pretty well: They had tons of fan favorites like Zero, Dante, Vergil, Phoenix Wright, Frank West, Ammy, Viewtiful Joe, Arthur, Haggar, Strider, etc The only thing really missing on the Capcom side was some form of Mega Man, and I suppose a Monster Hunter rep. Gene would of been nice, too.
This game will fly off the shelves with MCU hype alone, and then you've got the MvC fans waiting in the wings on top of that.
Whether it will have good legs remains to be seen and that hinges on how good the gameplay is, but it will blow up sales charts out of the gates easily I'd think.
Bruno_Arrais85
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In before petitions for Xmen in MvC4
The comics weren't really much of a problem. Even before RessurXion, Marvel has been putting out 6-7 X-Books on a regular basis. As mentioned before, Marvel Entertainment seems more afraid of making new fans of the X-Men & Fantastic Four, which is what stuff like video games & cartoons will create (which happen to be the two forms of media where the Fox characters are getting screwed over the most).
They could increase that by 50% with just X. That's definitely the character people want the most out of Capcom.
I personally want Miles Edgeworth instead of Phoenix. They can put Zero instead of X? Why not Edgey?
I dont like to admit it, since it decreases the chance ob them being in it, but I started to read about Nova because of UMvC3 (liked his design and gameplay) and quickly became one of my all-time favourite Marvel characters.
No X-Men? Going back to 2v2? There's only one explanation if these are true.
Thats just perfect haha.
What are you thinking by that in terms of characters?
People use fan-service now as a euphemism for less clothing.
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This is gonna become the "thing" for this game and it'll have an impact. Like "where's Mega Man" or "no arcade mode".
You read about Richard Rider Nova, right?
DoctorFish
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Maximillian made a tweet saying he heard Team Ninja is making the game then deleted it. Is that something anyone else has heard or is it fake as it sounds? Can't imagine why he'd delete it otherwise unless Capcops got him.
Lights and Waves
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The fact that MvC3 didn't have Mega Man really made me upset. The costume for Zero wasn't enough. Mega Man is a staple MvC character and should have been there from the beginning.
Did you manage to screen-cap it?
He's been in two games. How is he a staple?
GuileBootCamp
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if classic both Mega Man and X show up in this one, along with all the fan favorites from UMvC3 and a Monster Hunter rep. Gene needs to be saved for a rivalry with Gambit, though.
Ah, yeah, you're right. Updated my post. Anyway: Mega Man (Classic and/or X), Asura, something Monster Hunter, Captain Commando, maybe Sigma, maybe Gene...the characters people have been demanding for a long time.
DoctorFish
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I didn't, unfortunately, but you can see people reacting to it about 20ish minutes ago here in the latest tweets at him: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=@maximilian_&src=typd
TRUE ORDER
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Team Ninja? They are helping SE with Dissidia, I think it would be possible if they weren't making that game already.
sixteen-bit
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oh dear @ a hayashit Marvel
these feels are conflicted
these feels are conflicted
I heard that rumor before but I thought it was started on the FGW Discord ie. it's fake.
Mr. Pointy
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Well it's not like they can get Eighting to make it again.
TheDinoman
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Why? What's been going on with them lately?
Why do people keep saying this? This would be horrible. Especially because the chance of BOTH Dantes making it in is extremely low, it would likely be one or the other. Donte being in with Dante being out is my nightmare scenario.
I totally get where you're coming from. Gene's Roulettes are tailored to be used as Specials and Hypers. And he has literally a library of normals to choose from. Asura would be so hype though.
Why does Gene need to be saved for a rivalry with Gambit?
Someone mentioned Team Ninja earlier in the other thread in passing.
Would suck TBH, not a fan of Team Ninja's output since like Ninja Gaiden 2, and little else even before that.
notworksafe
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It's info from the PM that started this whole mess on GAF. Sounds a bit off but who knows.
Wrong leak, scrub. Based Discord informed us about Iron Galaxy and Akuma in DOA
There's no way...
Team Ninja has made DoA5 and Nioh, not to mention Hyrule Warriors and Dissidia, since the days of Sigma, Other M and Ninja Gaiden 3. I think they're deserving of a bit of trust. Eighting made Castlevania Judgment before they made Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.
Never mind that outsourced devs in cases like these don't decide the majority of the game design, so complaining about Team Ninja potentially handling MvC4 is kinda moot.
Never mind that outsourced devs in cases like these don't decide the majority of the game design, so complaining about Team Ninja potentially handling MvC4 is kinda moot.
GuileBootCamp
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That's just me half-joking, half-wishing. It'd be fun to see them in a rivalry similar to what Deadpool and Dante had in the MvC3 trailers. They're both gamblers in long coats that are a bit on the ridiculous side as characters with flashy fighting styles. I'd be fine with Gene showing up either way.
They've gotten better and I don't doubt there abilities but it just seems so out of left field.
Yeah of course. Got captivated by his books. First thing I read from cosmic Marvel was Annihilation, then the whole saga until Original Sin where Bendis fucked Thanos Imperative up.
i've also read Sam Alexander's run, and although I didnt hate it, it originally shat on many of the original Xandar and Nova lore, like having a "Nova Force generator" inside his helmet after Rider took it all to cancerverse. WTF. I also read Guardians 3000 and realized that I missed Worldmind as much as Rider after reading Rael Rider.
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Let Team Ninja handle the art.
Unspeakable Evil
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Wasn't that Iron Galaxy?
DerekOfTheDykes
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I'd be all about Team Ninja being the dev team, the problem is that I can't see them having the time to support the game long-term given their similar commitments to Dissidia Arcade and the likelihood they'll be behind the PS4 version.
Galactic Specter
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PerfectNo X-Men? Going back to 2v2? There's only one explanation if these are true.
Mr. Pointy
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They got bought by COLOPL and are making VR games.
Silver lining, at least Richie's back.
AFAIK they've never worked with Team Ninja on anything.
That's the one thing they shouldn't be in charge of.
BronsonLee
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If Team Ninja is helping with Dissidia then this game might be a stunner because my fucking god that game is top 3 in looks for me
Yeah although after reading Nova #11 I'm afraid that they may be making Worldmind a bad guy or something. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
DerekOfTheDykes
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Depends on if you mean art direction or art asset creation.
I wasn't fond of the art direction for DmC, but the assets in the game looked great and animations were very nice. Same is true for Enslaved. In fact, that's about the only thing I think I'd count on Ninja Theory to do RIGHT.
DaSorcerer7
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Its probably going full 3d at this point.. :/
Edit: Blade is back under the Marvel umbrella right?...That would be a sick addition.
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