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Polytron Hacked?
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SolidsnackooFoxhound
Banned
Completely fair, the only relevance that it has it it informs her character (normally I would dismiss it from a biased source, but it is incredibly thorough) and how that informs the likelihood of the other allegations against her character through her own conduct have merit or not.
Because it would be as crazy as if someone actually did this? Both scenarios are equally fucked up.
The thing is, it might be one hacker, but the way /v/ lashes out with nastiness at Phil Fish, for blaming *them*, ends up making them look like culprits of a different soft anyway. Unless you believe Phil Fish hacked himself and wrote 'mod of /V/' just to piss them off, this is pretty nuts.
MrMatt555
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Jesus... The first and last time i go to /v/ The replies i'm seeing in response to Quinn's initial question of "What is it that you want?" are nothing short of psychotic.
Seriously... it's a bloodbath over there.
EDIT: I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. New to this whole ordeal.
SUPER EDIT: Apparently I fell into the trap. Disregard this whole post. lol
Seriously... it's a bloodbath over there.
EDIT: I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. New to this whole ordeal.
SUPER EDIT: Apparently I fell into the trap. Disregard this whole post. lol
Black Nectar
Banned
I'm not sure what the point I'm trying to make is but humans have been killing others because of cheating for around 100,000, so historically its KIND OF a big deal.
It was /v/ that collectively donated to that Gamejam if I'm remembering correctly.
Black Nectar
Banned
No, I literally never said that its an OK thing to do.
You're right, people have been having massive overreactions to cheating for ages. What the ex bf did was still wrong.
Imagine you're sitting at a table and instantly you are blamed with stealing a mans identity, his money, his passwords... Basically a key into his personal life. Everyone puts the blame on you, and you're already irritated with a situation that happened prior with these people. 99% of people wouldn't be able to keep calm and handle it 100% respectfully. You say anything at this point that doesn't go through the legal system and you automatically look like the culprit.
Had this been Reddit or NeoGAF, people would be responding exactly as they are/did.
dark_inferno
Member
If he did this because he is an attention whore... then he wouldnt upload all those financial reports that will cause him huge shit from everyone.
SolidsnackooFoxhound
Banned
Necromanti
Member
I would say someone putting up all of their sensitive information on the internet and releasing it to the public as part of some sort of stunt is several magnitudes more "crazy", but maybe that's just me.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Then why use it as a justification for people going public with private details just because they were cheated? Saying that people murdered people for cheating does not make revealing private information ok.
MrMatt555
Member
Lol well forgive my ignorance. I've never been to that armpit of a website.
It's trolls trolling other trolls all trolling people like you.
SolidsnackooFoxhound
Banned
Eh, it's no worse than the OT section of GAF to be honest. /v/ isn't THAT bad.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Hol-e mol-e.
I would wager Phil was being targeted even before he tweeted in Zoe's defense. If a group of hackers wanted to blow this "SJW" controversy into a frenzy, then a target as big, red, and tenable as Phil had to have come to mind. Disagreeable his attitude may be, no individual deserves to be so swiftly unraveled. It just means more work for him and the authorities trying to combat potential fraud, and, if his personal tweets are to be trusted, the end of Polytron and Fez as we know it.
I would wager Phil was being targeted even before he tweeted in Zoe's defense. If a group of hackers wanted to blow this "SJW" controversy into a frenzy, then a target as big, red, and tenable as Phil had to have come to mind. Disagreeable his attitude may be, no individual deserves to be so swiftly unraveled. It just means more work for him and the authorities trying to combat potential fraud, and, if his personal tweets are to be trusted, the end of Polytron and Fez as we know it.
This post is like a gem inside a trashpile. It deserves more love
dark_inferno
Member
That would make more sense. People dont like things that make more sense.
They dont want to be the hero and celebrated by everyone. They want to be the villian and want to be hated by some.
Black Nectar
Banned
I agree that murder is an over reaction and is something that no one should ever do no matter what.
However...
Cheating on someone with 5 guys or even 1 guy is way worse than the person being cheated on exposing them. Fuck cheaters, they are dishonest and horrible people.
EmCeeGramr
Member
It's more like if multiple people's identities have been stolen, and every single time right before and after the theft occurs, out of a crowd of a hundred men in masks, there are a dozen screams at that person about how that person should be destroyed and they probably did it themselves to get attention, and every single time they act offended that anybody would think it was a person from their crowd that did it.
He's saying don't be surprised. That's what he's saying. He's not justifying it. He's saying people have done worse for less.
I'm not surprised, either. You hear someone murdered their spouse for cheating, you don't go "oh damn, why?" you just go "oh damn, he's messed up."
Varying degrees of messed up exist.
Okay. "A TB thread with a lot of deleted comments is how a lot of people first heard about this" != the issue would have been less explosive, less publicized had such moderation not taken place. Causality doesn't come much vaguer than that, and all this latching onto the Streisand effect as the main driver for this controversy is unnecessary, silly, and fairly self-serving most of the time.
RustySpoon
Member
Looks like twitch put the ban hammer down on that guy who was streaming the files. Good on 'em.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Let's not link right now to a 4chan thread where people are shouting about "faggotry"
mgs2master2
Banned
dark_inferno
Member
I wonder what happens if we find out FEZ2 was really in development. And maybe we get some screenshots.
FloweryMarston
Member
Seriously, I am so sad right now. I hope that phil doesn't do anything over the board because of this, i hope people close to him are supporting him.
On one hand you've got an unknown number of people with zero motives exposing a ludicrous amount of sensitive info just for shits.
On the other hand you have an unstable individual who has shown highly erratic behavior in the past staging a huge clusterfuck after one of his colleagues was maliciously attacked by the internet with zero cause.
They both seem equally fucked but sadly plausible in this day in age. And don't get me wrong, I am not taking one side or the other but it's a mistake to discount the possibility of either.
Dragonborn
Member
Wow, so much leaked. What kind of repercussions could Fish face from Sony, MS, and Valve?
And it's also kind of proving the point that I was alluding to: at it's core a large part of this entire issue has nothing to do with gaming at all.
It's why some jackass was in here alluding that she could sleep with phil to pay for the fez ip. It's why the defaced polytron site warned people against standing up against misogyny. it's why the infidelity issue keeps cropping up again and again even though this is all supposedly about the games industry.
This is an argument about nothing so I'm not going to keep going, but I still think less people would have gotten involved in this whole affair had they not chosen to start mass deletes of threads in reddit.
BertleTheTurtle
Member
What a depressing week.
Just want to remember happier times when everyone didn't hate everyone else.
Man, I miss Ryan Davis. Giantbomb is still good but it just isn't the same without him.
why not just remove the link then? also, you're going to have to ban all future links to 4chan if that's the case lol
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They wouldn't do shit. He's the victim here and suing him, if there are any grounds for it, would be bad press and would be construed as victim blaming.
EmCeeGramr
Member
there were multiple people quoting it and it was faster and moderating this thread to make sure that sensitive shit doesn't get posted is rather attention consuming
FloweryMarston
Member
It would be pretty cool that people stopped looking into the files, what is his income, etc. it's ridiculous that some are saying "i am curious about this" when it's someone's personal info being thrown around.
Not justifying it? How else does one read this?
(It is possible, though, that I'm reading your post incorrectly!)
PHIL FISH ‏@PHIL_FISH Protected Tweets 1m
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i am deleting this account. if you see anybody on twitter pretending to be me: it isn't.
https://twitter.com/PHIL_FISH/status/502715707252285440
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i am deleting this account. if you see anybody on twitter pretending to be me: it isn't.
https://twitter.com/PHIL_FISH/status/502715707252285440
Absoludacrous
Member
None, he didn't leak them. At worst they would not deal with him in the future because of it, but I don't really see that as a possibility either, assuming Fish stays in the industry.
As much as I dislike the dude and went out of my way to never buy his game because of him, it's really, really shitty that someone did this to him.
Yeah, I can't imagine they'll punish him for having his account hacked.
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