simplythebest
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Can't anyone stop this dude?
Polytron Hacked?
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Yeah, it was kind of given away by the fact that it was spelled out as "/V/" and not "/v".
Perhaps the person went to /v/ to try and learn and try and make it look like it was /v/, but it absolutely was not organized.
People, stop blaming /v/. We know it wasn't them. They're actually cool dudes, and they're pissed they're being blamed.
-MD-
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You don't hear that everyday.
Most of them originate on Gaf.
Just going to make a pretty blanket yet true statement here, I'm pretty sure any hacker that is savvy enough and outright fucking evil enough to do something like this assuredly knows about 4chan enough to make fun of 4chan.
Well yeah, he needs to shut everything down yesterday. But I mean, once he has all those accounts changed and passwords changed, he's pretty much okay. He just needs to call the banks and CC companies and tell them to lock everything. I'm guessing he knows his branch manager personally, so he'd have to speak with them and have it sorted, so yeah, it's a headache, but he should be able to minimize most of the damage. His relationship with the publishers is harder. I think that's part of the reason he just said "fuck it" in his last tweet and wants to sell the company whole hog. Sony/MS/Valve probably don't like those docs floating around.
Man, the craziest thing here is that these two really need to just can it on this. Felonies are being committed to burn them to the ground. At this point I'd just shut my mouth and go to the police. This may be more directed towards Quinn, but we'll see how Fish reacts. So far he's taken it pretty well, I'd say.
I'm kinda concerned that someone is gonna end up hurt (and I don't mean financially, career, or whatever, I mean straight up hospital hurt) from this whole thing. It's becoming pretty clear that whoever is the driving force behind this is out for blood, and will ruin as many careers as they need to.
This is the biggest shit storm I have ever seen revolving entertainment, jesus.
I'm kinda concerned that someone is gonna end up hurt (and I don't mean financially, career, or whatever, I mean straight up hospital hurt) from this whole thing. It's becoming pretty clear that whoever is the driving force behind this is out for blood, and will ruin as many careers as they need to.
This is the biggest shit storm I have ever seen revolving entertainment, jesus.
Storm Raider
Banned
I wasn't saying it like that. I meant it as if it was done over something else other than 'videogames' it would be justifiable, but since it's 'over videogames' it's stupid or something; which I disagree with. It shouldn't be done, at all.
So on /v/ it's all "LOL PHIL FISH WAS 'HACKED', LOL, NICE JOB FAKING IT PHIL/SESSLER/ZOE"
They all 100% believe that Phil Fish hacked himself, to the extent they are talking about getting the FBI to investigate him for fraud.
This is some delusion damn...
obviously the statement about the 'mod /V/' was a joke by whoever actually hacked it, as a reference to the earlier conspiracy theory about Zoe hacking herself because of the capital letter.
They all 100% believe that Phil Fish hacked himself, to the extent they are talking about getting the FBI to investigate him for fraud.
This is some delusion damn...
obviously the statement about the 'mod /V/' was a joke by whoever actually hacked it, as a reference to the earlier conspiracy theory about Zoe hacking herself because of the capital letter.
In other words, there was no Streisand effect? Sure, the moderation around this issue resulted in some people acting like some grave injustice was going on, as well as a burst of conspiracy theorizing. That's entirely a function of the fact that this is an incredibly ugly subject, and there was a preexisting amount of ugliness prepared to burst at the seams. The Zoe Quinn ordeal absolutely did not blow up as a result of moderation trying to minimize discussion about it, and the invoking of the Streisand effect in relation to it has been utterly ridiculous.
EmCeeGramr
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oh oka-
Like I know there's plenty of people on /v/ that just want to talk about Morrowind mods or PC building and their favorite Purse Owner game, but it'd be ludicrous to deny that the subforum has been host to a nasty (hopefully) minority of people trying to start shit.
Yeah, they didn't organize a hack or anything. It's probably just one lone idiot who's doing this and claiming it's them.
If anyone cares enough, they can search through this site to see if they actually had anything to do with this: http://archive.moe/v/
Yeah, which could literally be anyone associated with a whole number of websites.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
The entire controversy was manufactured from the start. They don't need an excuse for this horseshit. These people want to eviscerate everyone who thinks differently from them and they'll take every possible chance to do it.
Fucking manchildren. This is really fucking infuriating.
no just that the fact that it's done over videogames makes it extra stupid
This is not true.
Alright let's back up, the whole Wizard chan stuff kicked off after she linked 3 posts on the site, and accused them of raiding her right? There was most likely no raid from Wizard Chan, the activities of said raid had apparently been occurring prior to those wizard chan posts, and those wizard chan posts do not even broach the subject of harassing her directly.
There was no raid on their part and she at best made claims that can not be verified and at worst deliberately misrepresented the activities of Wizardchan and wrapped them into things that she herself said were happening prior to those three posts on Wizardchan.
http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx
I don't agree with the tone of the first post and the stuff itself is a hard read because of the stupid MS paint, but it does paint a fairly plausible picture that Wizard chan was not involved.
Now is it likely that she, having probably put up with shit for the crime of being a woman in gaming, could very well have experienced the harassment she claims? Absolutely, but there is no proof that it was Wizard chan if all of those claimed instances did occur.
Her complaints made no sense and if we are applying "There is no proof" we should be applying it equally. You are painting a picture to discredit the people running a charity game jam when we have to view it objectively. They are not alleging some massive conspiracy, rather they are alleging that no journalist wanted to touch the story which is different.
Why would they have any reason to lie about this?
And furthermore if they were lying, why then would Zoe herself not come out to defend herself and set the record straight?
This is the best argument in defense of it not being her, but it is more likely that it was her or someone close to her.
I am willing to bet that a decent percentage of the mud thrown at her happens due to her gender, but after a while, and especially given the unrelated 5 guys posts, you can only be involved in so many shady things before it beging to taint the perception of your character, and the likelihood of occam's razor becomes more pronounced. That is the only way in which the griped of a bitter ex are relevant.
i guess cuz nobody wants to call this guy out here we go:
i sincerely hope you aren't an adult because your capacity for reasoning and sympathy seem to be severely lacking
none of these are justifications you dolt jesus christ how fucking empty in the brain or heart are you
matrixman92
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am I the only one that thinks its weird that Zoe, Sessler, and that other guy took laptops to a bar? lol Never seen that before...a coffee shop, yeah. But not a bar
Never take trolls at face value. Them talking about calling the FBI on claims of fraud sounds like a complete joke on their part. Wouldn't surprise me if there is a few of them that are truly delusional though. Usually anything even remotely controversial there is bait though.
I don't know to say other then you're wrong.
A ton of people had no idea about this until that TB thread showed up on Reddit with the first page completely deleted of comments. That was the way a lot of people first heard about it.
Was that your first time on 4chan? The posts aren't meant to be taken seriously.
KoopaTheCasual
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I guess authorizing information to those parties makes it really easy to monitor where a fraudulent charge comes from. But unleashing your SSN to the world kind of makes that impossible. I feel like he's just made himself sooo much more susceptible to any future attacks. And I don't think that's something that will go away.
Agreed completely. My reaction was "Holy shit not bad!" immediately followed by "Oh shit."
No it's a job for the police.
4chan contains a feature to post links to websites, like chat rooms.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
No it's a job for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
This is a job for actual detectives dude. Federal crimes.
Just from reading this thread and from the /v/ reaction, I'm very unsure of who would be behind this.
Users on /v/ were immediately shooting it down faster than The Waco Kid can shoot a gun out of your hand. They were calling this a false-flag because it's not really their style and it would be stupid to do. Plus, they noticed that there is false/misleading info (according to public record, that may not be his address) and other stuff that seems suspicious. Such as, why are the financial files hosted on the website? Why are the Fez game files hosted on the website? That sounds like an odd place for them to me, but I don't know how corporate websites work. Some users just find it all to be too coincidental.
However, /v/ is not some collective wherein all users are telepathically linked together and share all thoughts and actions. It's not out of question that someone from /v/ did do this and tried to make it look like a false flag. Yet, I'm fairly confident it's not them.
However, I'd bet on someone completely unrelated who just wants to stir up shit.
Interesting to see all sides of the situation and how it's unfolding. Tragic situation, regardless.
Pretty much this.
Users on /v/ were immediately shooting it down faster than The Waco Kid can shoot a gun out of your hand. They were calling this a false-flag because it's not really their style and it would be stupid to do. Plus, they noticed that there is false/misleading info (according to public record, that may not be his address) and other stuff that seems suspicious. Such as, why are the financial files hosted on the website? Why are the Fez game files hosted on the website? That sounds like an odd place for them to me, but I don't know how corporate websites work. Some users just find it all to be too coincidental.
However, /v/ is not some collective wherein all users are telepathically linked together and share all thoughts and actions. It's not out of question that someone from /v/ did do this and tried to make it look like a false flag. Yet, I'm fairly confident it's not them.
However, I'd bet on someone completely unrelated who just wants to stir up shit.
Interesting to see all sides of the situation and how it's unfolding. Tragic situation, regardless.
Pretty much this.
Black Nectar
Banned
Salty ex BF? I thought her sleeping with 5 guys while having a BF was true. A BF reacting to that is considered salty?
Her sleeping with people for a positive reaction is definitely NOT true.
But anyone who gets cheated on has the right to be pissed and if they want it to be made public then let it be. Cheating is a horrible thing to do. People having been murdering other people for cheating for 100,000 years, its kind of a big deal.
Mr. Protagonist
Neo Member
EXACTLY. Thank you for putting into words the huge problem with just saying "lol, 4chan"
Please, the tone of the post is obviously satirical. the 'mod' of /V/ O mean come on.
/v/ isn't pissed at being blamed -- they believe Phil Fish is targeting /v/ by faking attacks on himself, and are lashing out in response. That people there actually believe that is kinda blowing me mind.
hodayathink
Member
Of the many problems with this, one of them is that it didn't become public until about 11PM or so. Which means that if he has to talk to an actual person to get some of his accounts changed/shut down, he might have to wait until these places open tomorrow, which gives people hours to attempt to use this information.
Yes, I understand that. I'm not denying that they haven't done anything nasty (there have been a few I've seen). Practically any site that has any sort of user who cares about the topic has flamed a turd over the past couple of hours. I just don't like seeing a large group of people being identified as the culprits, while a few kids run about and mess up the reputation of an extremely large pile of people who are for the most part, alright.
I hadn't heard about this situation at all until today. So far as I can tell that article also links to extensive references and backed up copies of material that end up deleted. I mean it looks like proof to me. There's even hand in cam real time footage of the ex boyfriend perusing the logs (http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/) as a means for him to verify nothing he's provided has been doctored in any way. I can find nothing from her, but presumably the attempts to get discussion erased have been coming from her side as the bf seems incredibly forthcoming. That alone admittedly makes me want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
In any case if you can provide any more material it'd be great. What is available does absolutely paint a pretty one sided picture and there's been 15 pages of discussion here where I imagine a decent chunk are like me - in the dark!
I don't know if this makes quite the point you want it to.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Okay, your first post is just "she posted pics of harassment that were forwarded to her but then talked about a raid which means she blamed all of the users on this one site," which doesn't make any sense at all because she never did that.
Your second point is that Zoe Quinn ruined a game jam by criticizing on Twitter (regardless of whether you disagree with her stance), as even your screencap does not elaborate on what she did outside of vague accusations that make no sense for Zoe to do and I have no idea how she would have the power to do these things. Also, when someone contacted her about it recently, she just responded with "I'm standing by my criticism of their trans policy" which strongly indicates that she has no idea about any "shutting down" or "ruining." If journalists didn't cover that project, that's not Zoe's fault.
And with that, your defense of insane conspiracy theories is over. This topic is done.
Mr. Protagonist
Neo Member
He knows it's satirical. I seems most on here do not. Hence his post.
I agree, this was kind of my point. It wasn't "/v/" as a collective or some completely separate entity trying to pin it on /v/, just someone who has at least a cursory knowledge of the board. It doesn't tell us much.
Yeah this sentiment really needs to go away.
Really? Wow, I can't believe I just saw someone defend posting private information to the public. It doesn't matter what happened. It's private life. If anything happened, it's none of our business and they should discuss, not us. Ugh.
This is messed up, Phil doesn't deserve this, regardless of how maturely he has acted (I am not a fan of how he chooses to publicly interact on the internet, though I don't know him as a real person). I wish he had gotten away from this much earlier, I had hoped he might try to really take a long break without running into any crap like this. It sucks that scum like this hacker are out for blood, and a developer/future games were severely crippled.
And I can agree /v/ is being falsely blamed, regardless of some of the community's stances on certain things.
And I can agree /v/ is being falsely blamed, regardless of some of the community's stances on certain things.
Some part of 4chan is donating to that one gamejam's ..thing, whatever it is, and are trying to "take the fight" to them or whatever by making it successful, since I guess Quinn made it.. not successful? Iono. That's about the extent of 4chan's involvement, I'd say. If any board is dangerous I'd say it's /b/. If this gets into /b/'s court, well then.. I don't wanna be anywhere near that when it does.
Regardless, the FBI will surely be getting involved now, so we'll find out one way or another what the hell is going on sooner or later.
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