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#popMAFIA | So dont let this be our final song
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I'm open to a lynch if we have anything to go on, but right now we really don't.
Basically, I'm willing to reconsider, but I'm tending towards being cautious on the opening day.
I'd like to second this line of questioning for these 2 people only.
In regards to Pop... I'm treating it like joking for the time being, trying to drum up conversation. And it sorta worked. Until QB disappeared. He should probably answer bronx.
I guess my point is, we get no information from a no lynch, but if we have nothing really to go on, then we'll probably end up lynching the wrong person, and then we're down one more town than we'd otherwise be. And I've never played here before, so I don't back my ability for a successful scum read on the first day.
When I feel like I have any sort of reasonable suspicion.
As opposed to unreasonable suspicion, which is all we have currently.
kryptikjoker
Member
3 posts and no gifs? #scumtells
Glad to see a bunch of familiar faces and some people I haven't played with in a long time as well as all the new faces in here! We're gonna #slay and show those other games how real mafia is played.
To get us started
Vote: kryptikjoker
Hello! I'm Sawneeks, nice to meet you! Since you're new here, have you ever played forum mafia before? What's your favorite kind of music? Post your favorite pop gif please. c:
Hey Sawneeks, right back at ya! I have never played Mafia on a forum before, but I have played other derivatives of it IRL. My favorite type of music is POP! Thanks for the vote, but it's definitely misplaced. I AIN'T NO SCUM. Good ups on trying to get the game started like this.
VOTE: Sawneeks
Hey Sawneeks, right back at ya! I have never played Mafia on a forum before, but I have played other derivatives of it IRL. My favorite type of music is POP! Thanks for the vote, but it's definitely misplaced. I AIN'T NO SCUM. Good ups on trying to get the game started like this.
VOTE: Sawneeks
Expand on this. Do you actually think Sawneeks is scum?
kryptikjoker
Member
RNG for RNG's sake is one way to play the game, but with a couple of posts already under his belt and a long drawn out post about deception, in my experience people who are already willing to throw people under the bus are suspicious themselves!
kryptikjoker
Member
Apologies! Still getting up to speed on all the information for the game!
kryptikjoker
Member
This almost makes it too easy come, easy go. I guess that's just how you live.
I mean, we'll get that information on everyone else regardless of whether I personally vote for no lynch or not
kryptikjoker
Member
kryptikjoker
Member
QuantumBro
Banned
I voted for combine42 on the advice of my Magic 8 ball, but I'll leave it on them till they get back to us with their promised 'serious shade'.
As for my reads...
Town:
Pop-O-Matic
Lean Town:
Lord of Castamere
CornBurrito
Kalor
Sawneeks
Scum:
CCS
combine42
kryptikjoker
Lean Scum:
Bronx-Man
Evilisk
Can't tell:
Burbeting
Crab
Flame_AC
Haly
Not
Coppanuva
I'll vote for someone in my scum category if nothing changes over the course of the day. If anyone wants me to expand on my reads, just ask.
You've just gotta ask yourself if you think I was being serious or just making shitty attempts at humor. Perhaps calling them Limewire would've been more obvious.
As for my reads...
Town:
Pop-O-Matic
Lean Town:
Lord of Castamere
CornBurrito
Kalor
Sawneeks
Scum:
CCS
combine42
kryptikjoker
Lean Scum:
Bronx-Man
Evilisk
Can't tell:
Burbeting
Crab
Flame_AC
Haly
Not
Coppanuva
I'll vote for someone in my scum category if nothing changes over the course of the day. If anyone wants me to expand on my reads, just ask.
You've just gotta ask yourself if you think I was being serious or just making shitty attempts at humor. Perhaps calling them Limewire would've been more obvious.
Kryptikjoker's vote sounds like pretty strong OMGUS* to me, but I don't know if it's a scum tell by itself. I wouldn't see a veteran player respond like that, but kryptik is not a veteran.
*OMGUS = "Oh my god, you suck (for voting for me)!" http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Oh_My_God_You_Suck
*OMGUS = "Oh my god, you suck (for voting for me)!" http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Oh_My_God_You_Suck
QuantumBro
Banned
Does gaf have a giphy plugin?
Bull to the shit.
Hyperactivity
Banned
POKES GAME
Man #popMAFIA really is the worst game we've had yet
Also, the OT should've been
Man #popMAFIA really is the worst game we've had yet
Also, the OT should've been
I'm not really sure how a D1 lynching would help us though
There's a much higher chance of us nailing one of our own as opposed to nailing any Mafia players, isn't there? Unless we happen to be really lucky of course
I wouldn't mind voting if we had something to go off on, but there doesn't seem like there is so far. (Not unless I take everything posted so far at face value which seems kinda... unwise since most of it is fluff/smack/smuff/flack/whatever)
(Also I have to admit, after reading the very first Gafia game recently, I'm a bit scared of running my mouth too much on Day 1. Just in case the Mafia in this game happen to dislike mouthy players :/)
I still plan to retaliate vote Castamere at least if they still have a Vote on me by the end of this Day period though.
You'll have to accept that we're going to kill innocents sooner or later. Indeed, the game is not actually to survive, but to kill scum before they reach majority. They will never "miss" unless they run into an ability. We will miss more often than not, but as long as our hits outpace our misses, we'll win in the end.
I guess that's a fair point
I guess I just kinda really want to not get lynched/night killed on Day 1 (I wouldn't mind if Town won but I wanna feel like I'd at least contribute to that, even a little bit)
Alright, I guess I'll try and vote someone (though I still don't have a clue what to go off on for now). I'm just gonna comb through the thread again first
Also,
I guess I just kinda really want to not get lynched/night killed on Day 1 (I wouldn't mind if Town won but I wanna feel like I'd at least contribute to that, even a little bit)
Alright, I guess I'll try and vote someone (though I still don't have a clue what to go off on for now). I'm just gonna comb through the thread again first
Also,
what is a 1d4 roll
kryptikjoker
Member
That's the advantage the Mafia has against the town, that they know who each other are. I think if we at least build a consensus on who to lynch first, then we can figure out who's who. Also, Evilisk's response so far seems very well mannered. He's definitely town.
This is a good idea. I'm still going:
VOTE: No Lynch
Because as you say there's been a whole bunch of nothing and without anything to go on I'd rather avoid a first day mislynch.
What do you both think will change between this Day phase and the next if we vote No Lynch? Suspicion isn't just going to appear if we sit around and wait for it to happen, we have to actively go, question people, and try to find who is making sense and who isn't. Being passive isn't going to get us anywhere and, frankly, No Lynch is incredibly passive lol.
It's not impossible to find Scum and lynch them on Day 1 ( persona mafia just did that ) but even if we do end up lynching Town we can go back and see who voted for them and why. Mafia knows who is Town and who isn't, meaning they need to lie in order to justify their lynch vote. If we end up lynching a Townie we can go back and look at the whys and if someone's reason smell like bullshit then they might be Scum.
You go for a No Lynch you have nothing to look back on except for a worthless Day 1. :x
Hey Sawneeks, right back at ya! I have never played Mafia on a forum before, but I have played other derivatives of it IRL. My favorite type of music is POP! Thanks for the vote, but it's definitely misplaced. I AIN'T NO SCUM. Good ups on trying to get the game started like this.
VOTE: Sawneeks
I see you're misinterpreting my vote. c:
Like I said earlier, I usually place my first vote down on someone I haven't played with before so I can talk to them and get a ''feeling'' for how they play. It's not a 'I plan to lynch you' vote, although it can turn in to that, it's more of a 'hey let me get your attention' kind of vote.
Although it's curious to see that after 1 vote you think I'm throwing you under the bus. Why is that? 1 vote from 1 person is hardly anything.
I interpreted it as a joke, albeit a rather poor one. What made you think he was being serious?
I have a few.
Like how can you have a Top Town/Scum read when we've barely had 2 pages of game and 90% of it is just fluff and nothing else? Most people who have posted so far have only posted fluff/jokes with only a very, very small few making a serious effort. Like, I have some leanings on maybe 2 or 3 people but nowhere near a strong enough feeling to put people in a list like that. Where does your 'strong feelings' come from?
kryptikjoker
Member
I agree with her, there's not really much to go off of at this point until people get to chatting with each other. There's quite a few posts out there with minimal substance. Although you say that 1 vote is hardly anything, it shifts the power a little bit and causes people to get on the defensive, hence my reaction. I have very little information to go off with my vote except for that I've been placed on the chopping block.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Read list.
Town
Quantumbro
Cupponova
Kalor
Pop-o-matic
Lean town
Haly
kryptikjoker
Not
CCs
Lean Scum
Bronxman
Sawneeks
Scum
Crab
Evilisk
Cant tell
Burbeting
Flameac
combine42
Cornburrito
I'm sticking with my low activity scum read for Evilisk. Crab is too quiet right now, and frankly it has me scared. Scum Crab is nightmare fuel.
I'm seeing good cobtributions from my town reads, and little from my non town.
We need to lynch today. No lynching is a bad Day 1 move, no question about it.
Town
Quantumbro
Cupponova
Kalor
Pop-o-matic
Lean town
Haly
kryptikjoker
Not
CCs
Lean Scum
Bronxman
Sawneeks
Scum
Crab
Evilisk
Cant tell
Burbeting
Flameac
combine42
Cornburrito
I'm sticking with my low activity scum read for Evilisk. Crab is too quiet right now, and frankly it has me scared. Scum Crab is nightmare fuel.
I'm seeing good cobtributions from my town reads, and little from my non town.
We need to lynch today. No lynching is a bad Day 1 move, no question about it.
kryptikjoker
Member
Here are my reads:
Town
Borderline Town
CCS
Bronx-Man
Pop-O-Matic
Haly
Coppanuva
Evilisk
Scum
Sawneeks
Burbeting
Borderline Scum
QuantumBro
CornBurrito
Not
Lord of Castermere
Unknown
Kalor
Flame_AC
combine42
Crab
These are all preliminary of course, and are subject to change. But I feel really strong about my Scum reads. The rest of them are really up in the air so far.
Town
Borderline Town
CCS
Bronx-Man
Pop-O-Matic
Haly
Coppanuva
Evilisk
Scum
Sawneeks
Burbeting
Borderline Scum
QuantumBro
CornBurrito
Not
Lord of Castermere
Unknown
Kalor
Flame_AC
combine42
Crab
These are all preliminary of course, and are subject to change. But I feel really strong about my Scum reads. The rest of them are really up in the air so far.
I have to say I'm little wary of people posting reads lists of everyone this early. I mean, we have just two pages worth of discussion, that's not enough material to really make reads of everyone. It just makes it look like the read-listers are doing fake contributions. Especially if the reads are not backed up by any reasoning, just... a list.
Feeling somewhat wary of QuantumBro, Castamere and Kryptikjoker due to it.
Feeling somewhat wary of QuantumBro, Castamere and Kryptikjoker due to it.
So you basically admit you are going to OMGUS vote Castamere at the end of the day if he still votes for you at the end of the day? That seems.... quite strange, to say the least.
kryptikjoker
Member
There's very little information out there, so I think these read lists help shine a spotlight on some players' contributions and how they are affecting their standing in the game. I'd feel weary for anyone who doesn't have at least a little suspicion of others, but I don't think the lists are inherently poor form.
Since you feel 'very strongly' on your scum reads and you're basing it on contributions can I ask why you 'strongly' scum read me? Say, compared to someone who have not contributed as much like Crab or Flame?
or do you just really not like the vote I have on you right now?
Okay, shout-outs to those who are being extra fluffy compared to everyone else.
What are your thoughts so far? Even if it's just comments or whatever, but coasting like this helps nobody other than Scum.
Yeah I'm still not too sure who to vote on, even after going through the thread again. There are only a couple of things that stick out so far
1. Pop-O-Matic's "reveal"
2. QuantumBro's posts
3. People pressing the No-Lynch voters
On each of these:
1. I've got no idea what to think. Based on everyone's reactions (or lack thereof) it seems like he's joking? I don't really know. It'd be pretty gutsy if he actually was Mafia, given that he's the very first post after the game's start. Though that could also be part of it, I'm not quite sure how to react to this...
2. This is another unfamiliar thing to me. People are mentioning that he's just joking with his posts, so I guess I could just be overreacting to a thing. There is also his seemingly premature list. But given that he's willing to expand on it, as well as his post seemingly bringing out other people's lists, I don't think there's any reason to vote him (for now anyway) since the act has helped progress things a little.
3. I guess reading through the first Gafia game most recently had colored my perceptions for a bit, but I'd forgotten that (from the newer Gafia games I've read) people seem to be rather adamant on Day 1 lynchings here and that this is probably a normal reaction to No-Lynch votes (maybe).
I do want to mention that both CCS and I are newer players though and (while I won't speak for CCS since I'm not CCS), I personally have only spectated Mafia games (and have never actually played a single one ever myself). And as a spectator, it always made the most sense to me then to not lynch on Day 1 if I ever played a game.
Of course, now that I'm in a Mafia game myself, and having read other people's comments and explanations, I am admittedly starting to see the benefits of a Day 1 Lynch. I'm saying this just so people know where I'm coming from on this Day 1 No-Lynch attitude.
I know this might come off as a long and roundabout way to say, "I don't know who to vote" but I'm actually quite ready to do a Day 1 lynch now. I just have no idea where to put my vote at this point.
At least now that people have posted their lists. They're probably still a bit premature at this point but hey, it's better than going off only smack talk/apparent jokes
Eh again, I've never played a Mafia game, and in my head, with my spectator cap on, this always seemed like a good way to "defend myself" against a suspicion vote (even though it's actually kinda dumb, now that I think about it). Maybe I shouldn't do it anymore at this point. It's not exactly like it'd help me out if I did get dogpiled on...
Eh let's just see. There are still 2 days left anyway. I certainly won't vote him if someone can convince me of a Day 1 lynch target (even if Castamere happened to still have a vote on me during that time)
1. Pop-O-Matic's "reveal"
2. QuantumBro's posts
3. People pressing the No-Lynch voters
On each of these:
1. I've got no idea what to think. Based on everyone's reactions (or lack thereof) it seems like he's joking? I don't really know. It'd be pretty gutsy if he actually was Mafia, given that he's the very first post after the game's start. Though that could also be part of it, I'm not quite sure how to react to this...
2. This is another unfamiliar thing to me. People are mentioning that he's just joking with his posts, so I guess I could just be overreacting to a thing. There is also his seemingly premature list. But given that he's willing to expand on it, as well as his post seemingly bringing out other people's lists, I don't think there's any reason to vote him (for now anyway) since the act has helped progress things a little.
3. I guess reading through the first Gafia game most recently had colored my perceptions for a bit, but I'd forgotten that (from the newer Gafia games I've read) people seem to be rather adamant on Day 1 lynchings here and that this is probably a normal reaction to No-Lynch votes (maybe).
I do want to mention that both CCS and I are newer players though and (while I won't speak for CCS since I'm not CCS), I personally have only spectated Mafia games (and have never actually played a single one ever myself). And as a spectator, it always made the most sense to me then to not lynch on Day 1 if I ever played a game.
Of course, now that I'm in a Mafia game myself, and having read other people's comments and explanations, I am admittedly starting to see the benefits of a Day 1 Lynch. I'm saying this just so people know where I'm coming from on this Day 1 No-Lynch attitude.
I know this might come off as a long and roundabout way to say, "I don't know who to vote" but I'm actually quite ready to do a Day 1 lynch now. I just have no idea where to put my vote at this point.
At least now that people have posted their lists. They're probably still a bit premature at this point but hey, it's better than going off only smack talk/apparent jokes
Eh again, I've never played a Mafia game, and in my head, with my spectator cap on, this always seemed like a good way to "defend myself" against a suspicion vote (even though it's actually kinda dumb, now that I think about it). Maybe I shouldn't do it anymore at this point. It's not exactly like it'd help me out if I did get dogpiled on...
Eh let's just see. There are still 2 days left anyway. I certainly won't vote him if someone can convince me of a Day 1 lynch target (even if Castamere happened to still have a vote on me during that time)
I don't like killing people. I'm a pacifist
lol, well you joined the wrong murder game then.
Yes, I saw that after I posted my reply. Apologies.
You argue that there is little to go off of at this point and that people need to post more but yet I'm not seeing much from you that shows me you are trying to change that. People, especially Scum, aren't just going to start talking more for no reason, they sometimes need to be prodded to get them forward.
Like this:
Vote: Flame_AC
So out of your list who would you lynch?
Also Crab is 'too quiet' and is therefore Scum but Flame and CornBro, who have done just as much as Crab, are 'null'?
Can you also explain your Town reads please.
Basically the same question I asked for LoC.
Burb and I are your 'strong scum reads' based on contributions but your Unknowns, who have arguably done little-to-nothing, are free from your Scum list. Why? Why is CornBro a 'boderline scum' read but Flame isn't?
Would you also explain your 'town leans' please.