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After a difficult summer in which she fell behind Senator Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire, Hillary Rodham Clinton has recovered the ground that she lost in the Granite State, and many viewed her debate performance favorably.

A Suffolk University-Boston Globe poll shows the two Democratic presidential candidates virtually tied, with Mrs. Clinton having support of 37 percent of likely Democratic voters and Mr. Sanders at 35 percent. The survey’s margin of error is four percentage points.

A June poll from Suffolk showed Mr. Sanders starting to close the gap with Mrs. Clinton, and he eventually overtook her in New Hampshire after months of negativity publicity surrounding her use of a private email server as secretary of state. However, Mrs. Clinton’s strong debate performance this week already seems to be paying dividends.

Friday’s poll, which was conducted after the debate on Tuesday, found that 54 percent of the respondents thought Mrs. Clinton was the winner, compared with 24 percent for Mr. Sanders.

More at the link:http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...n-recovers-some-ground-in-new-hampshire-poll/

Some other pearls from the poll.

David Paleologos ‏@davidpaleologos
Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll shows Clinton won debate among debate-watchers 54% to 24% for Sanders

David Paleologos ‏@davidpaleologos
SUPRC/Boston Globe poll shows NH Dems more aligned with gun control stance of Clinton (41%) than Sanders (24%). Debate-watchers: 50-29

David Paleologos ‏@davidpaleologos
Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll shows 36% of NH Dems bothered by Clinton e-mail issues while 62% are not bothered

David Paleologos ‏@davidpaleologos
Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll shows Clinton best chance of winning general election: Clinton 52% to Sanders 16%

David Paleologos ‏@davidpaleologos
Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll shows Sanders most trustworthy of all the Democratic candidates: Sanders 33, Biden 23, & Clinton 22

 

[Incognito]

feeel the bern!

 

[Chariot]

David Paleologos ‏@davidpaleologos
Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll shows 36% of NH Dems bothered by Clinton e-mail issues while 62% are not bothered

Really? 36%? Why.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

feeel the bern!

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[A Human Becoming]

I wonder how soon after the debate this was taken. The media declaring her the winner would influence debate watchers. I thought she won regardless.

 

[Guevara]

that Hilleum, causing her to rise.

 

[McDougles]

But people on the Internet told me that Internet polls liked Bernie, thus making the older medium, television, part of a grand conspiracy!

Could it be possible that different people asked in different mediums have different opinions on things?

 

[Yellowtail]

Do Bernie stans still want more debates?

 

[Matt_]

I hope this puts to bed some of the media conspiracy bullshit I've been seeing everywhere
I like Bernie's policies more than Hilary's but the relentless craziness from some of his supporters is turning me off him

 

[B-Dubs]

But people on the Internet told me that Internet polls liked Bernie, thus making the older medium, television, part of a grand conspiracy!

Could it be possible that different people asked in different mediums have different opinions on things?

It's more likely that online polls are not representative of the actual voting populace and only show us whose supporters are more excited and web savvy.

 

[see5harp]

regardless of how futile it is to imagine a world where Hilary doesn't get the nod I'm still rolling with the old idealist in me.

 

[Dicer]

I hope this puts to bed some of the media conspiracy bullshit I've been seeing everywhere
I like Bernie's policies more than Hilary's but the relentless craziness from some of his supporters is turning me off him

So your turning based on random folks, no the person with the actual policies?

Sense, you make not...

 

[NeoXChaos]

The Coronation Continues.

 

[loki 16]

Do Bernie stans still want more debates?

Why would they not want more debates?

 

[Trojita]

The Suffolk survey shows an uphill battle for Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. in New Hampshire, where his support sits at 11 percent and half of those questioned think he should not bother entering the race.

Damn, isn't the contrary to some of the earlier polls?

Predicting the general election percentage rates that specifically this early is a fool's errand.

 

[NeoXChaos]

Why would they not want more debates?

More chances for Hillary to destroy Bernie in the debates.

 

[Africanus]

Why would they not want more debates?

Debates can only work in Clinton's favor. She has experience in circumlocution.

I say this as not a supporter of her.

 

[Trojita]

More chances for Hillary to destroy Bernie in the debates.

Destroy? Did you watch the last one?

 

[Trojita]

This was in the poll but not mentioned by the tweets?

If the Democratic Primary for President was held today, and the candidates were {RANDOMIZE} Joe Biden, Lincoln Chafee, Hillary Clinton, Larry Lessig, Martin O’Malley, Bernie Sanders, or Jim Webb, for whom would you vote or lean toward?
(N=500) n %
Joe Biden ----------------------------------------------------------- 56 11.20
Lincoln Chafee------------------------------------------------------ 3 0.60
Hillary Clinton ---------------------------------------------------- 184 36.80
Larry Lessig --------------------------------------------------------- 1 0.20
Martin O’Malley ----------------------------------------------------- 7 1.40
Bernie Sanders -------------------------------------------------- 177 35.40
Jim Webb ----------------------------------------------------------- 13 2.60
Other ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 0.20
Undecided ---------------------------------------------------------- 58 11.60

36.80% would vote for Clinton, 35.40% would vote for Sanders

 

[Butts-a-plenty]

Destroy? Did you watch the last one?

David Paleologos ‏@davidpaleologos
Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll shows Clinton won debate among debate-watchers 54% to 24% for Sanders

I mean, maybe no destroy. But perform much better in a state that was going his way.

Damn, isn't the contrary to some of the earlier polls?

Predicting the general election percentage rates that specifically this early is a fool's errand.

People wanted to see her on stage and for her to reassure them that she could fill the role, she successfully did that, she changed the media narrative and showed primary voters that they don't need to worry about her and that Biden doesn't need to step in.

 

[Slime]

Do Bernie stans still want more debates?

You don't need to be a Bernie stan to want more debates. There's usually more than double the amount we're getting. The DNC is needlessly ceding a shitload of airtime to the Republican circus.

More debates can only help the Democratic brand, regardless of who comes out on top.

 

[QuiteWhittle]

This was in the poll but not mentioned by the tweets?


36.80% would vote for Clinton, 35.40% would vote for Sanders

This is bolded in the OP

A Suffolk University-Boston Globe poll shows the two Democratic presidential candidates virtually tied, with Mrs. Clinton having support of 37 percent of likely Democratic voters and Mr. Sanders at 35 percent. The survey’s margin of error is four percentage points.

 

[Trojita]

Other parts of the poll

S.1 Gender
(N=500) n %
Male ---------------------------------------------------------------- 215 43.00
Female ------------------------------------------------------------ 285 57.00
S.2. How likely are you to vote in the Democratic Presidential Primary in four months – very likely, somewhat likely, would you say you are 50-50, not very likely, or not at all likely?
(N=500) n %
Very Likely -------------------------------------------------------- 449 89.80
Somewhat Likely -------------------------------------------------- 51 10.20
S.3 Are you currently registered as a Democrat, Republican, Undeclared/Independent, something else or are you not registered to vote?
(N=500) n %
Democrat --------------------------------------------------------- 282 56.40
Republican --------------------------------------------------------- 17 3.40
Undeclared/Independent -------------------------------------- 177 35.40
Other ----------------------------------------------------------------- 17 3.40
Not registered ------------------------------------------------------- 4 0.80
Refused -------------------------------------------------------------- 3 0.60
{S3.2, 3.3, 3.4 only}
S.4 Just to be clear, although you are a registered <party> you intend to vote in the Democratic Presidential Primary in four months?
(N=211) n %
Yes ----------------------------------------------------------------- 211 100.00
QUOTA 5. What is your age category?
(N=500) n %
18-24 Years -------------------------------------------------------- 18 3.60
25-34 Years -------------------------------------------------------- 87 17.40
35-44 Years ------------------------------------------------------ 107 21.40
45-54 Years ------------------------------------------------------ 106 21.20
55-64 Years -------------------------------------------------------- 69 13.80
65-74 Years -------------------------------------------------------- 55 11.00
75 + Years ---------------------------------------------------------- 50 10.00
Refused -------------------------------------------------------------- 8 1.60
SUPRC / Boston Globe Likely NH Democratic Voters
New Hampshire Democratic Voters 2 of 4 October 14-15, 2015
QUOTA 6. For statistical purposes only, can you please tell me what your ethnic
background / ancestry is?
(N=500) n %
White/Caucasian ------------------------------------------------ 454 90.80
Black/African-American ------------------------------------------ 3 0.60
American Indian / Alaska Native ------------------------------- 5 1.00
Asian ------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 0.60
Native Hawaiian / Other Pacific Islander --------------------- 0 0.00
Hispanic/Latino ----------------------------------------------------- 4 0.80
Other ----------------------------------------------------------------- 13 2.60
Refused ------------------------------------------------------------- 18 3.60
7. If the Democratic Primary for President was held today, and the candidates were {RANDOMIZE} Joe Biden, Lincoln Chafee, Hillary Clinton, Larry Lessig, Martin O’Malley, Bernie Sanders, or Jim Webb, for whom would you vote or lean toward?
(N=500) n %
Joe Biden ----------------------------------------------------------- 56 11.20
Lincoln Chafee------------------------------------------------------ 3 0.60
Hillary Clinton ---------------------------------------------------- 184 36.80
Larry Lessig --------------------------------------------------------- 1 0.20
Martin O’Malley ----------------------------------------------------- 7 1.40
Bernie Sanders -------------------------------------------------- 177 35.40
Jim Webb ----------------------------------------------------------- 13 2.60
Other ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 0.20
Undecided ---------------------------------------------------------- 58 11.60
{Exclude answer from Q7 as an option, respondents must pick another candidate}
8. Who would be your second choice? (RANDOMIZE)
(N=442) n %
Joe Biden ----------------------------------------------------------- 79 17.87
Lincoln Chafee------------------------------------------------------ 3 0.68
Hillary Clinton ---------------------------------------------------- 104 23.53
Larry Lessig --------------------------------------------------------- 5 1.13
Martin O’Malley ---------------------------------------------------- 13 2.94
Bernie Sanders -------------------------------------------------- 101 22.85
Jim Webb ------------------------------------------------------------ 7 1.58
Undecided -------------------------------------------------------- 130 29.41
Great, I am going to read you a list of individuals in state and national local politics. For each, please tell me if your opinion of them is generally favorable or generally unfavorable. If you are undecided or if you have never heard of someone, just tell me that. Is your opinion of Barack Obama generally favorable or generally unfavorable? {RANDOMIZE}
(N=500) NEVER HEARD FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE HOF/UNDECIDED
9. Barack Obama 3 330 135 32
0.60 66.00 27.00 6.40
10. Hillary Clinton 1 328 130 41
0.20 65.60 26.00 8.20
11. Joe Biden 5 357 86 52
1.00 71.40 17.20 10.40
12 Bernie Sanders 4 355 72 69
0.80 71.00 14.40 13.80

3 people have never heard of Obama. 5 have never heard of Biden. This has to be a troll.

 

[Trojita]

This is bolded in the OP

Damn. My bad. My eyes point downward :S

 

[Angry Grimace]

There's a girl I went to high school with who believes that its a mass media conspiracy that Bernie Sanders was not declared the unequivocal winner of the debate since obviously he won. Yes, she's been stanning for Bernie since the second he started running.

 

[dramatis]

David Paleologos &#8207;@davidpaleologos
SUPRC/Boston Globe poll shows NH Dems more aligned with gun control stance of Clinton (41%) than Sanders (24%). Debate-watchers: 50-29

Well that's unexpected.

This was in the poll but not mentioned by the tweets?

36.80% would vote for Clinton, 35.40% would vote for Sanders

Democratic primary is proportional (i.e. the states fork out delegates in proportion to the vote) after you've cleared a certain level (depends on the state).

In truth, there's not much to be gained out of Iowa and NH. Being on par with or even somewhat below Bernie in those states would probably be good enough for the Hillary campaign, because they get more delegates with higher margins in other states. That said, Bernie will probably still edge out a win in NH though.

Damn. My bad. My eyes point downward :S

Bad dps

Also, use the CODE tag

 

[Chariot]

Do Bernie stans still want more debates?

Just for people to asked me in that other thread to name moments where people are unreasonable against Bernie supporters. Posts like this one.

Stop with the damn democracy folks, Hillary has already won.

 

[Butts-a-plenty]

Just for people to asked me in that other thread to name moments where people are unreasonable against Bernie supporters. Posts like this one.

Stop with the damn democracy folks, Hillary has already won.

I mean, if you want to really get into it. The party nomination process is about as far from Democracy as it gets. Between caucuses, proportional vs winner take all primaries and super delegates there isn't a whole lot of democracy going on. It's up to each party how they nominate their candidate.

 

[Damaniel]

So your turning based on random folks, no the person with the actual policies?

Sense, you make not...

Well, when those random folks want to call me a stooge for the oligarchy or just plain stupid for choosing to support the candidate that can win, then yes. Bernie is just Ron Paul all over again - a fringe candidate with a small but vocal minority that belittles everyone for not 'seeing the light' and understanding just how perfect their candidate is.

I don't want political purity in 2016 - I want to win. Bernie can't and won't win.

 

[Chariot]

I mean, if you want to really get into it. The party nomination process is about as far from Democracy as it gets. Between caucuses, proportional vs winner take all primaries and super delegates there isn't a whole lot of democracy going on. It's up to each party how they nominate their candidate.

Debates are part of the democratic debate and can help people to shape an opinion on the candidates they are democratically voting for later, right?

 

[giga]

And how are we supposed to know that Suffolk isn't part of the conspiracy too? Question everything and don't rest until it all makes sense.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

If Sanders doesn't win NH his campaign is over before it starts. Because the states that come after Iowa and NH are BRUTAL for him.

 

[Crisco]

Sorry Bernie supporters, please vote for Hillary in the general!

 

[RastaMentality]

If Sanders doesn't win NH his campaign is over before it starts. Because the states that come after Iowa and NH are BRUTAL for him.

Right. MSNBC has a write up talking about how important black voters are (50-point lead in SC!) which PoliGAF has consistently already mentioned.

 

[Dicer]

Well, when those random folks want to call me a stooge for the oligarchy or just plain stupid for choosing to support the candidate that can win, then yes. Bernie is just Ron Paul all over again - a fringe candidate with a small but vocal minority that belittles everyone for not 'seeing the light' and understanding just how perfect their candidate is.

I don't want political purity in 2016 - I want to win. Bernie can't and won't win.

That's just a negative attitude...

 

[Foffy]

Sorry Bernie supporters, please vote for Hillary in the general!

Does it come with free vodka? You need something to numb the pain.

 

[A Human Becoming]

If Sanders doesn't win NH his campaign is over before it starts. Because the states that come after Iowa and NH are BRUTAL for him.

Definitely. If he can't hold onto NH it's over. Might as well forget South Carolina then.

 

[RPGCrazied]

I really want Sanders to win, but we will get stuck with her. Which I'd gladly take than anyone on the GOP side. Fuck that.

 

[JCizzle]

Hilldawg!!!

 

[Mushroomer25]

Not shocking. Bernie did a solid job energizing his base, but I don't think he did enough outreach to gain new support. Meanwhile Hillary came off as solidly presidential (though she did look weak on the Snowden question, which predictably was most important to voters already in the Sanders camp), looking electable and level-headed.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Guys, you know it's just a matter of time until Hillary's benefactors go "ha ha ha haaaa---, okay, I'm sick of Bernie. Pull the plug"

I'm waiting for the Republicans to do this with Jeb/Rubio. "okay, I'm sick of this joker's hair. Pull the plug." "---Trump's numbers continue to rapidly decline as Rubio sees massive gains in key states" lol, like clockwork. Just you wait!

 

[Takuhi]

Bern-feelers: Take solace in the fact that you've made Hilary a better candidate and forced her to commit to more populist positions.

Honestly, that was the best case scenario all along, right?

 

[Makai]

Bern-feelers: Take solace in the fact that you've made Hilary a better candidate and forced her to commit to more populist positions.

Honestly, that was the best case scenario all along, right?

I thought the best case scenario was polling at 10%. Not sure what happened.

 

[User 463088]

Guys, you know it's just a matter of time until Hillary's benefactors go "ha ha ha haaaa---, okay, I'm sick of Bernie. Pull the plug"

I'm waiting for the Republicans to do this with Jeb/Rubio. "okay, I'm sick of this joker's hair. Pull the plug." "---Trump's numbers continue to rapidly decline as Rubio sees massive gains in key states" lol, like clockwork. Just you wait!

Bernie should stay in the race for as long as he wants to do so. As a 2008 Clinton supporter, I'd be both an asshole and a hypocrite if I didn't think he should.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I have already accepted that Sanders isn't going to win, as if I ever believed it to begin with, but now I have to decide if I want to vote for Clinton or not.

Better to be completely dominated by the GOP than to sacrifice that ideological purity am I right.

 

[APF]

Not surprising, considering how Clinton performed in the debate. She said all the things that most voters want to hear.

I have already accepted that Sanders isn't going to win, as if I ever believed it to begin with, but now I have to decide if I want to vote for Clinton or not.

President Trump thanks you for your support.

 

[Chariot]

I thought the best case scenario was polling at 10%. Not sure what happened.

Haha, yeah. From around when he announced his candidacy.

Well Bernie Supporters, he has a very long way to go.

 

[giga]

Not surprising, considering how Clinton performed in the debate. She said all the things that most voters want to hear.

I have already accepted that Sanders isn't going to win, as if I ever believed it to begin with, but now I have to decide if I want to vote for Clinton or not.

Who really cares about the next Supreme Court justices.

 

[HylianTom]

President Trump thanks you for your support.

Actually, it's more like..

"Thanks a lot! In the future when you DO manage to get a politician like Sanders elected, my buddies on the bench will be sure to kill their legislative achievements as soon as they reach us. Dooming the causes you claim to care so much about? Good job!"

 

[Hobbestetrician]

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