Prince of Persia WW a big success
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Panajev2001a
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Bah... I really do not like the art direction for the new PoP WW game.
Die Squirrel Die
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Ah well. Guess my hopes that it would bomb so Ubi would give us a proper sequel will go unfulfilled. Slightly worried what message this'll send to developers.
SCEI announce change of direction for Ueda's new game.
Wanda and the Colossal Boobies.
SCEI announce change of direction for Ueda's new game.
Wanda and the Colossal Boobies.
Luscious LeftFoot
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Take away the glitches, music, and all the anger and the game's really fun. Looking forward to the next one...
Unless EA decides against it :/
Unless EA decides against it :/
Die Squirrel Die
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Luscious LeftFoot said:
PoP3: The Warrior Within my Thighs - Join the Prince on his angst-ridden quest for beer and women after a bust up with his girlfriend, 'cause that bitch just doesn't understand him, she's all like, nag nag nag, and he's had a stressful day at work 'cause his boss is a bastard and he should just like, slap the man down, and then some f**king soccer mum cut him off on the freeway and.................
I think Jeremy Slater had the difinitive quote on POP:WW
"Blinx 2 is a shitty game thats not worth your time, and Ubisoft has ruined their Prince of Persia franchise with the worst attitude adjustment in gaming history and a ridiculous focus on unsatisfying combat in favor of environmental puzzles. "
"Blinx 2 is a shitty game thats not worth your time, and Ubisoft has ruined their Prince of Persia franchise with the worst attitude adjustment in gaming history and a ridiculous focus on unsatisfying combat in favor of environmental puzzles. "
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Those PR quotes really are clammering at straws.
1.8 mil ain't bad though. I guess that's all formats combined though, which is still not that impressive considering it's a sequel.
1.8 mil ain't bad though. I guess that's all formats combined though, which is still not that impressive considering it's a sequel.
This is great news as it assures another sequel.
While I won't say it's as good as the original game, it's still a quality title and as much as hardcore gamers everywhere decry it's "attitude", it got noticed this time round because of it.
Frankly it amuses the hell out of me to see how much of the gamer audience wanted PoP:WW to fail for this change.
While I won't say it's as good as the original game, it's still a quality title and as much as hardcore gamers everywhere decry it's "attitude", it got noticed this time round because of it.
Frankly it amuses the hell out of me to see how much of the gamer audience wanted PoP:WW to fail for this change.
I dunno what people are smoking...Shard said:
Sands of Time had the worst battle system ever. What Ubi Soft did was to make it much, much better for Warrior Within. There isn't more fighting in this game (except the boss battles). It's just better fighting, that's why Ubi focused on showing trailers/screens of it since it was the only thing that was bad about SoT.
You fight just as much as you did in SoT. People seem to think this is some fighting game now -- which it definitely isn't!
JasoNsider
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While we're pointing out why this figure is bloated, let me add some logs to the fire. It's one of the most rushed games I've played in as long as I can remember.
* 3 game lock ups in 5 hours of play. This is just ridiculous.
* missing sound effects. Opening scene has all sorts of crazy stuff going on with missing sound effects for half the action. The almighty Dahaka (sp?) takes about 20 seconds to do his "kill" animation, while slamming you into the ground and sucking your life into his own. Not a single sound effect was played for this.
* Music cut off and/or completely missing. I had one area where I heard the music build up and then it suddenly just cut off and I was met with silence. Every time I died, I heard the music build up and then suddenly cut out again.
* Glitchy gameplay. Was fighting a group of enemies on a high platform and went to flip over someone. Instead of landing on the other side of them (which was roughly 10 feet away from the ledge) the prince magically warped over to the ledge and fell to his death. Same sort of thing happened when I started moving the camera around on a rotating platform in one area.
* Invisible walls. On more than one occasion I found invisible walls blocking my path to a common area. The main palace room with the ledges had this even. It was as if the game was trying to block my access because the area could not be streamed fast enough.
* Glitchy graphical effects. You enter this one outdoor, sunny area where it's meant to be really bright (which doesn't really make sense once you see the rest of the areas in the same time) but they messed up the effect by making the glow one big rectangle that you can actually see the corners of.
This is to say nothing of the stiff animation. In the opening scenes my brother and I were laughing so hard at how stiff and quick all the in-game cut scene animations were. Considering how serious they were apparently taking this game, I don't think laughter is what they were going for.
This is, without a doubt, my dissapointment of the year. It should have had at least another 2 months of development time just to get rid of the horrible bugs. Beyond the actual glitches, I don't like the new direction at all. The art in this game is really great, but it's the art direction that is pulling it down. That and the music selection. There were a couple times where I stood in awe, but realized I had nu metal stabbing my ears and decided to move on.
There are some amazing coders and artists at Ubisoft Montreal - give them a project that doesn't insult their talent! I can even see a lot of potential in their level designers, but they are being held back by focus groups and the suits.
* 3 game lock ups in 5 hours of play. This is just ridiculous.
* missing sound effects. Opening scene has all sorts of crazy stuff going on with missing sound effects for half the action. The almighty Dahaka (sp?) takes about 20 seconds to do his "kill" animation, while slamming you into the ground and sucking your life into his own. Not a single sound effect was played for this.
* Music cut off and/or completely missing. I had one area where I heard the music build up and then it suddenly just cut off and I was met with silence. Every time I died, I heard the music build up and then suddenly cut out again.
* Glitchy gameplay. Was fighting a group of enemies on a high platform and went to flip over someone. Instead of landing on the other side of them (which was roughly 10 feet away from the ledge) the prince magically warped over to the ledge and fell to his death. Same sort of thing happened when I started moving the camera around on a rotating platform in one area.
* Invisible walls. On more than one occasion I found invisible walls blocking my path to a common area. The main palace room with the ledges had this even. It was as if the game was trying to block my access because the area could not be streamed fast enough.
* Glitchy graphical effects. You enter this one outdoor, sunny area where it's meant to be really bright (which doesn't really make sense once you see the rest of the areas in the same time) but they messed up the effect by making the glow one big rectangle that you can actually see the corners of.
This is to say nothing of the stiff animation. In the opening scenes my brother and I were laughing so hard at how stiff and quick all the in-game cut scene animations were. Considering how serious they were apparently taking this game, I don't think laughter is what they were going for.
This is, without a doubt, my dissapointment of the year. It should have had at least another 2 months of development time just to get rid of the horrible bugs. Beyond the actual glitches, I don't like the new direction at all. The art in this game is really great, but it's the art direction that is pulling it down. That and the music selection. There were a couple times where I stood in awe, but realized I had nu metal stabbing my ears and decided to move on.
There are some amazing coders and artists at Ubisoft Montreal - give them a project that doesn't insult their talent! I can even see a lot of potential in their level designers, but they are being held back by focus groups and the suits.
radios shipping overview
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The article claims 1.8 million units shipped, not units sold. Certainly we're still maintaining a distinction between the two?
Good post Jasonsider, I couldn't agree more. Especially the animation who was so incredibly bad in the first level. The boss fight in this level was laughable at times (like when the prince falls on his back, awful animation), and also was much too hard. Did they want the game to be more like Ninja Gaiden by putting one of the hardest fights right in the first level ?
I finished Ninja Gaiden, so believe me I know what's blockingDeepthroat said:It's not that hard. Basically every boss has the same movement. You just gotta learn to block Blim
Maybe it's just that blocking is soooo slow I get beaten to death before the prince finishes the blocking animation. It sucks.
evilromero
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My problem with this game is that horribly generic metal riff that plays throughout 90% of the game. That and flying off the edge to my death during a boss fight. I absolutely hated this fucking game. It is nothing compared to Sands of Time.
evilromero
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All the game needed to do was ditch the fighting, retain the beautiful music from the first one and just concentrate on the awesome level design.
Haha, I knew it. Making the game 'superteenangstybutcool' brings in the money. Badass looking character and Godsmack in the commercial brings in the casuals. There were those who said these sales would never come... what have they to say now?
I just wish that guitar riff wasn't there. Otherwise the game is great.
I just wish that guitar riff wasn't there. Otherwise the game is great.
The gameplay may still be great, but they sold out for the sake of image, sales and utterly destroyed a good character and story. The story and acting both pale compared to the efforts made in Sands of Time.
Granted, I don't play games specifically for story, but its just frustrating that they didn't make a PoP game for PoP fans, but rather, a PoP game for people who didn't but it last year. Now that EA has a 20 percent stake in Ubi, I don't see the series going uphill from here.
Granted, I don't play games specifically for story, but its just frustrating that they didn't make a PoP game for PoP fans, but rather, a PoP game for people who didn't but it last year. Now that EA has a 20 percent stake in Ubi, I don't see the series going uphill from here.
1.8 million units delivered? :lol As in, "Nobody ordered 'em, but we shipped 'em out anyway!" I like how they have to combine the sales of every version of the game, just to get into the top 5 (or top 6) for the week that it was released.
Does anyone have a link to the UBS report that says POP: WW is #5?
They claimed that the last game was a huge success, even though they had to start bundling it with free copies of Splinter Cell within 6 weeks of release. I didn't think retailers would be stupid enough to order so many copies after they got burned with so much excess inventory last year.
Does anyone have a link to the UBS report that says POP: WW is #5?
They claimed that the last game was a huge success, even though they had to start bundling it with free copies of Splinter Cell within 6 weeks of release. I didn't think retailers would be stupid enough to order so many copies after they got burned with so much excess inventory last year.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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I think you mean "Prince of Persia Warrior Within a BUG success"....
http://cheats.ign.com/articles/572/572408p1.html?fromint=1
1.The Bug: During the fight with
, players may cause the boss to break open the wall at the throne prematurely. Entering the time portal room will move the player into a later area without the proper powers or equipment.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Fatal if followed through.
2.The Bug: Re-entering the clock tower after
is available may cause this player-faulted bug whereby the player cannot exit the clock tower.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Dead game if followed through.
3.The Bug: After earning the
, the Prince is directed back to the throne room a second time. When negotiating the side hall to enter the throne room, the breakable wall from the hallway into the throne room may be passed through, but is one way only. A random boss may also flicker into existence and then out again.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Potentially fatal if followed through.
4.The Bug: After the first fight with
, the player is transported to the beach (Fortress Entrance) with the objective, "Follow the Girl in Black" with no obvious prodding of the game.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Fatal, if followed through.
5.The Bug: During the second fight with
, the boss may teleport next to the Prince when he is hanging on the ledge of the arena. The boss will immediately drop to the "bottom" of the room, but will not be killed nor will it teleport back into the play field.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Fatal.
6.The Bug: Occasionally, if the player saves, quits, then reloads at various points in the game prior to
, the player will start the session as a zombie or wraith like character instead of the normal Prince.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Potentially fatal if followed through.
7.The Bug: Some doors, gates, or other seemingly impassable objects are sometimes non-corporeal; the Prince may walk through them without any physical resistance although the graphic is in plain sight.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Non-fatal.
Tried to hide anything that people might not wanna know before playing. Gotta say, this is insane. Something open ended like GTA, I expect bugs. This game? Just rushed and sloppy. Needed another month, but they had to make it for Christmas.
http://cheats.ign.com/articles/572/572408p1.html?fromint=1
1.The Bug: During the fight with
the girl in red
Bug Status: Confirmed. Fatal if followed through.
2.The Bug: Re-entering the clock tower after
access to the throne room and hourglass chamber
Bug Status: Confirmed. Dead game if followed through.
3.The Bug: After earning the
wall breaking sword
Bug Status: Confirmed. Potentially fatal if followed through.
4.The Bug: After the first fight with
the Empress of Time
Bug Status: Confirmed. Fatal, if followed through.
5.The Bug: During the second fight with
the Empress of Time
Bug Status: Confirmed. Fatal.
6.The Bug: Occasionally, if the player saves, quits, then reloads at various points in the game prior to
A Second Chance
Bug Status: Confirmed. Potentially fatal if followed through.
7.The Bug: Some doors, gates, or other seemingly impassable objects are sometimes non-corporeal; the Prince may walk through them without any physical resistance although the graphic is in plain sight.
Bug Status: Confirmed. Non-fatal.
Tried to hide anything that people might not wanna know before playing. Gotta say, this is insane. Something open ended like GTA, I expect bugs. This game? Just rushed and sloppy. Needed another month, but they had to make it for Christmas.
Legal Step
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more combat = teh w1n!!!