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Project CARS | OT | Made by 80.000 slightly mad developers
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I can't believe I was getting so frustrated with the controls of this game. I felt like the vehicles were just uncontrollable. Now I just can't get enough of it. The sweet thing is that every car is like a new experience. So awesome.
Only thing with the game is that it just doesn't look that great compared to other racers.
Jaggies everywhere.
Only thing with the game is that it just doesn't look that great compared to other racers.
Jaggies everywhere.
Do it, Dave. Fund it with one of those mountain bikes you no longer use. Your G27 demands it!
A proper racing cockpit is the best thing I ever bought. I did get a cracking deal on it ex-demo from a games shop (£300 total for the Forza 3 version Playseat with shifter mount, official floor mat, integral TV stand, G27 wheel, pedals and shifter, Sony amp, sub and surround sound speakers, a 32" Sharp HDTV, and a copy of Shift 2) but before that I had this ghetto rig that I knocked together from some old melamine chipboard and some of those spin on/off adjustable kitchen-counter legs that were being thrown away at work. It was fine in the olden days, really stable, and packed away flat in a couple of minutes:
Maybe get your tools out and rattle something similar off?
TylerDurden4321
Member
Do you play with a controller?
I haven't tried it with a controller but it seems pretty realistic to me with a wheel, definitely had major oversteer moments. Have you tried a track toy car like the Ariel Atom 500 V8 or the Caterham R500, still understeer?
What I mean is, is it that you can't turn in enough even though you have enough grip or does the CAR understeer as in "the front wheels point in the right direction, but the car doesn't follow and goes wide"?
Is this a thing in general for people playing with a controller in this game? Do you get understeer too often? Is the speed-sensitive-steering fucked in this game?
Edit:
These foldable "racing stands" are not bad either, steady and packed away really fast. Some hate the shaft in the middle between your legs though. Personally I don't mind it at all.
This is the first racing game that has me wanting to buy a steering wheel and some kind of seat.
I'm so ignorant to what's out there. I was looking at RSEAT and PLAYSEAT, but I don't know what to choose from, and as for steering wheels it seems like G27 is the best bet for PC. Again, I don't know anything about this stuff... I only know Arcade sticks.
I'm using a controller at the moment and it took some getting used to, but now I'm enjoying the hell out of this game. But... I know deep down inside that this game would be a whole other experience with a wheel and proper seating.
I'm so ignorant to what's out there. I was looking at RSEAT and PLAYSEAT, but I don't know what to choose from, and as for steering wheels it seems like G27 is the best bet for PC. Again, I don't know anything about this stuff... I only know Arcade sticks.
I'm using a controller at the moment and it took some getting used to, but now I'm enjoying the hell out of this game. But... I know deep down inside that this game would be a whole other experience with a wheel and proper seating.
backbreaker65
Banned
Will this game still support morpheus, with such an unstable frame rate?
It isn't unstable at all, if they just restrict the Morpheus mode to 15 opponents and dry weather.
And wire frame models if on console. At least for that 90fps to 120fps target.
Sony intends for Morpheus itself to be able to interpolate a 60 fps game into 120 fps.
backbreaker65
Banned
So this is a educated guess, or just a guess? so 16 in the rain at night can't be done?
Educated guess? The game is out in EU and restricting the car count and weather is an easy way to ensure a fully locked 60 fps on PS4.
backbreaker65
Banned
Cool Thanks, I hope they have a demo at E3.
Inside sim racing has a 32 minute video on ffb settings for this game.
Here
roject CARS Force Feedback Tips PC - PS4 - XBox
: https://youtu.be/mlOdRTB4njY
Here
roject CARS Force Feedback Tips PC - PS4 - XBox
: https://youtu.be/mlOdRTB4njY
Cheeseman Battitude
Member
Inside sim racing has a 32 minute video on ffb settings for this game.
Here
Loved ISR back in the day with Darin, Shaun and Jessica. But at times it seemed like they didn't really get on. Then Darin started working for Fanatec and I didn't like the potential for bias.
Imo better than PCars, I can post my settings if you like.
Darin is using a Thrustmaster wheel in this video, so it should all be good. It has some very interesting info on lots of settings, so I really recommend it.
Gareth Bale
Member
It's impossible with a controller though.
Compared to what? Try Downsampling with smoothing.
User 479360
Banned
I liked Gran Turismo 3 when I was younger, but do find that sims tend to get too repetitive for me because they kind of feel lifeless. Forza 2 had that issue, and I can't play it, but the 4th and 5th ones were better.
I'm more into arcade racing, though this looks neat.
Think it'd appeal to me?
I'm more into arcade racing, though this looks neat.
Think it'd appeal to me?
Terbinator
Member
Hmm, game keeps CTD once I try to enter a race on XB1.
Seriously what the hell is up with the handling of the karts its complete dog shit!, they dont seem to have any characteristics of real life karts at all, for a start they seem to have a turning circle of a submarine or even slide the cards. Have have an issue now and again where the XB1 pad doesn't seem to response if turn the stick all the way to the right the wheels seem to stay left
SliChillax
Member
The wheel doesn't turn enough, I know what makes cars understeer but this is not the case. I'm trying going into corners slowly even with cars like the Atom it feels like I'm controlling a truck. The wheel movement is slow and it's impossible to make quick movements in case of oversteer to correct it no matter how slow. I never had problems like these with all the racing sims that I've played, hell even Shift 2 is far easier to steer. I've tried most of the controller configurations posted in this thread but now I just refuse to play it. Good thing I'm playing it at a friend's computer since I would have regretted purchasing the game at this moment. The physics don't feel right when the cars hit the curbs either, there's something off in the suspension physics of the cars that was also present in Shift. In case of oversteer or hitting curbs the cars wobble like boats getting moved in heavy waves. I'll wait for the patches before I buy it.
My karts can turn 90 degrees on a penny.. What system/wheel are you using?
XB1 and a pad, seems to have a weird effect as well when you go on the rumble strips (which slows you down) and as soon as you off them you get catapulted forward.....im starting to wonder if somehow i have a dud version of the game or something!. I just seem to have to almost come to a crawl to take a corner and then when i do start to turn the turning circle is so large that im having to break again mid corner so i make the corner, this just isnt like real karting at all you should be able to come in fast stamp the breaks and then turn tightly whist sliding around the corner...atm im just unable to do this with the kart being very jitter and not ver responsive
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Had the exact same experience with an XB1 pad on PC. The karts are just not fun to drive because of it.
Nakkilokki
Banned
Anyone else having problems with the controller settings on PC? Every time I change from my wheel to my controller, the settings are reset to default.
Also, is there a way to use the wheel (G25) and keyboard simultaneously? It's annoying to map everything to the wheel.
Also, is there a way to use the wheel (G25) and keyboard simultaneously? It's annoying to map everything to the wheel.
GHG
Member
It's probably just the rear view mirror. Try just removing that and seeing if it has the same effect.
I think the karts are great. Superkarts are even better. They take a good few laps and a little tweaking before your dialled in but once you hit that sweet spot they're a joy to drive.
Hip Hop
Member
I tried it running a GTX 670, no difference in FPS before or during the race.
Can't wait until some really professional car set ups start emerging. As much as I love this game I can't help but feel like the cars are skating on ice a little bit when I initiate a turn or passing maneuvre. Hard to explain.
That's alright, we're not even 2 years into the consoles life. Forza 2 didn't look great either and look how awesome that looked at the end of the generation.
That's alright, we're not even 2 years into the consoles life. Forza 2 didn't look great either and look how awesome that looked at the end of the generation.
Hmm I've been using a controller...has been quite hard even on non-karting tracks. Not tooooo bad though I'm not advanced enough to know what it's holding back (beginner with karts really).
I decreased steering sensitivity and increased speed sensitivity. Decreased braking sensitivity and set most deadzones to 5%.
So far got 2minutes 45secs in Azure Coast Stage 1 with 250cc kart, sp and racing with ai.
Doesn't happen with GTX770, so it might only happen with AMD cards.
this is really werid (did you do it through the main menu tho? in game it's not the same), also tried to turn off the rear mirror only, and the HUD still eats my fps
Cheeseman Battitude
Member
I tried without the HUD. Not much of a difference if any on a 290
this is freakin weirdNo difference in fps for me either with a 280X and i920.
Oh and I relayed the wishes of having external sounds in onboard view and sliders for different sounds, and they are looking into the possibility of adding those in a future patch
r290x here and the gain in fps it's big
mangochutney
Member
I'm afraid that isn't the case.
I'm getting a lot of drops and tearing with even less opponents than that. Though some courses are OK, but some are bad, California and Azure notably.
It doesn't really affect gameplay for me, it just an annoyance.
Hip Hop
Member
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
TylerDurden4321
Member
I feel like I'm not getting many of the points in your post. So you ARE playing with an FFB-wheel, I hope I got that right (because you also say "controller configurations").
You mean the wheel on screen doesn't match your physical wheel's rotation fast enough? You can calibrate your wheel in the options, then it always matches perfectly for me.
If you want to make super-sudden, but small inputs of correction, that you feel get lost in "smoothing" maybe try a higher "steering sensitivity".
Somehow I still feel like I've gotten you wrong and you play with a gamepad/controller and your problem is that the speed-sensitive turning circle is too wide, no matter how slow you drive to make it smaller (turn-in more with the stick all the way in one direction).
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Something else:
@Everyone with an FFB-wheel, who hasn't tried it yet, try adding/adjusting the SoP setting, but not as gentle as Darin from Inside Sim Racing does it in his video:
https://youtu.be/mlOdRTB4njY?t=18m4s
try playing with the SoP settings! (by default all of these are off/set to 0)
Try SoP-scale 100
lateral 50,
differential 100
this will give you more of the standard FFB-feel that gives you information about the chassis-movement and how close you are to make the rear/car fly off. It changes the feel fundamentally!
Whether you like it in the end or not, I think everyone should give it a try.