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promising australian baseballer man shot by stupid idiot teenagers in oklahoma

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I don't think that's necessary.
Making a name for yourself is basically all you do in gang culture.

It's absolutely necessary. There are some people who recognize the value of human lives and then there are those who don't. I suggest we at least get something about them, and what better way to prevent future incidents than understanding murderers like this? If our goal isn't understanding, prevention and/or rehabilitation, then my next move would be to suggest the death penalty.
 

Ominym

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They deserve to rot in jail. But most importantly? Not a single person deserves to know any of their names. Fervently deny it was them to absolutely anyone who ask, other prisoners or otherwise. Don't dare give them the credit or "fame" they so obviously want.
 
No death penalty and the easy way out, lock them up in permanent isolation where the only external stimuli they'll receive is the clanging of a metal dish on the cold, hard floor.
 

hamchan

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Crazy that you could just be walking on the street and get randomly killed like this. America needs to do something about its gun problem.
 

MJLord

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Because don't you know? If Americans don't have ready and easy access to guns, they won't be able to stop their government from turning into fascists or would be powerless to stop foreign tyranny from once again taking hold in America.

Once again??
 

Ikael

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16 years old with guns? There's no "law abiding 16 year old citizen". Just "law abiding walking hormonal cocktails". You can't drink beer until you are 21 years old yet you can have access to a gun at that age? Jesus.
 

PopInnovation

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On one of the alleged killer's Facebook pages investigators said they found the message: "Bang. Two drops in two hours".


What the fuck...


This story is disgusting. I don't ever think I have thought the death penalty to be humane, but in cases like this... Bang. Three drops in five minutes.
 

Glasshole

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Press terrorism charges and send their asses to Guantanamo Bay. Let them wish they were never born.

I really don't know what else to say. The sheer randomness of this act is that makes it so horrifying. It could happen to anyone, anytime, and even concealed carry could hardly ever get you out of this alive.

These are the moments when I hope hell exists.
 

Glasshole

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Lock them up and rehabilitate them, but more young deaths is surely in nobody's interests.

normally, I'd agree with you, but this act is so extreme that I believe it's in common interest to prevent them from even the slightest chance this fuckers will ever get released, and ruin more lives with an almost mathematical certainty.
 

Enron

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Wow, crazy. I used to live in Duncan briefly as a kid while my dad was training at the Halliburton complex (Duncan is where Halliburton was founded). I remember it as a very small town, kind of place you don't have stuff like this happening.
 

SteveWD40

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I don't agree with the death penalty

and then I read stuff like this...

As has been said, why they fuck would killing some random guy "make a name", what kind of logic is that?
 

Falcs

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Death penalty is too fucking easy. These fuckers need to be punished. They should cut off their hands, tongue, and dick, knock out their teeth, gouge out their eyes, pour acid in their ears (just enough to make them deaf, not kill them), and then lock them up. See how they enjoy life now.
 

seanoff

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killing them gives them relief.

mandatory solitary confinement for about 20 years straight up. then let em out for a few days, then back to solitary until they die.

make a name for yourselves boys when no one really knows you exist.
 

RELAYER

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shanshan310 said:
Lock them up and rehabilitate them

Fuck them.

When you decide to kill random strangers just to "make a name for yourself", you have forever cut yourself off from society as far as I'm concerned.
 
People are asking for the death penalty, will they be tried as adults?

Lock them up and rehabilitate them, but more young deaths is surely in nobody's interests.

Then how did they get the weapons?

Why on earth would you want to rehabilitate them? Just remove them from the face of the earth.
 
Presumably because you're a civilized human being above the base impulse to murder children to satisfy your petty blood lust / sense of vengeance.

Well I'm a civilised human being who understands some people are just evil pieces of shit and society would be better off without them. The "children" who murdered an innocent man for kicks can wait two or whatever years until they are legally adult and then be given a lethal injection. I don't see what is bad about vengeance. If someone murdered my daughter yes, I would want vengeance. It's a natural human feeling.
 

Zips

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Shooting a random pedestrian in the back as they're minding their own business.

Either these teens are on a level of stupidity I dared not dream of, or they were looking to get caught and benefit from media attention. Unless they were just going to be satisfied by claiming responsibility amongst their social group.

The mind reels.
 
Press terrorism charges and send their asses to Guantanamo Bay. Let them wish they were never born.

I really don't know what else to say. The sheer randomness of this act is that makes it so horrifying. It could happen to anyone, anytime, and even concealed carry could hardly ever get you out of this alive.

These are the moments when I hope hell exists.

Guantanamo isnt that bad bro.

The prisoners there that comply get treated like kings, eat what they want, watch what they want , play what they want only thing off limits is pets.
 
'Murica.

Seriously, America REALLY needs to get their shit together when it comes to guns. It's completely fucking ridiculous how many people in that country are killed by guns yet some constitution made hundreds of years ago just HAS to be obeyed.
And now people from abroad are paying the price too.

Why on earth would you want to rehabilitate them? Just remove them from the face of the earth.

If they can be rehabilitated they should be. There is no forgiving this, but the kids were probably dealt a shitty hand. What on earth possessed them to shoot this guy?

If not lock them up forever.
 
Shooting a random pedestrian in the back as they're minding their own business.

Either these teens are on a level of stupidity I dared not dream of, or they were looking to get caught and benefit from media attention. Unless they were just going to be satisfied by claiming responsibility amongst their social group.

The mind reels.

I'm thinking it's this. Gang initiations work the same way. You rob/beat/kill a random just to show how "hard" you are and get street cred.
 
Why does America stick its collective finger in its ears and say "NANANANANA" whenever a completely innocent individual gets fucking murdered with a firearm. The majority responsibly using things specifically designed to murder people does not lessen the people actually getting murdered with a weapon specifically designed to murder people. Wake the fuck up.
 

Evilisk

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Just saw this on the news here and thought this sounded familiar.

Seriously disgusting that they killed just any random person to make a name for themselves. I'm not sure on the idea of giving them the death penalty just like that though there is absolutely no denying they have done an awful thing.
 
If they can be rehabilitated they should be. There is no forgiving this, but the kids were probably dealt a shitty hand. What on earth possessed them to shoot this guy?

If not lock them up forever.

No they shouldn't. Plenty of people are dealt a shitty hand and don't go around shooting innocent people. That's a really weak excuse. There are 7 billion people on this planet. Three morally bankrupt degenerates won't be missed.
 
No they shouldn't. Plenty of people are dealt a shitty hand and don't go around shooting innocent people. That's a really weak excuse. There are 7 billion people on this planet. Three morally bankrupt degenerates won't be missed.

So we should kill them for your own vengeance? For the sake of a brutally murdered man who came from a country that outlawed the death penalty decades ago because we realised that vengeance isn't justice? What they did is fucked up but frying them in a chair isn't right either.
 
Well I'm a civilised human being who understands some people are just evil pieces of shit and society would be better off without them. The "children" who murdered an innocent man for kicks can wait two or whatever years until they are legally adult and then be given a lethal injection. I don't see what is bad about vengeance. If someone murdered my daughter yes, I would want vengeance. It's a natural human feeling.

You have lots of natural impulses that are incompatible with living in a civilized society. Vengeance may have been useful when we lived in tribes and hurled rocks at each other, but it is rather pointless and petty if you stop to think about it. There's a really great part in a book I just read, No Country For Old Men, about this:

Cormac McCarthy said:
"That man that shot you died in prison.

In Angola. Yes.

What would you done if he'd been released?

I don't know. Nothin. There wouldn't be no point to it. There ain't no point to it. Not any of it.

I'm kindly surprised to hear you say that.

You wear out, Ed Tom. All the time you spend tryin to get back what's been took from you there's more goin out the door."
 

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A 16-YEAR-OLD boy has confessed to pulling the trigger and killing Melbourne baseballer Chris Lane during a drive-by shooting in Oklahoma, police chief Danny Ford says.

Chief Ford said the 16-year-old was with two other teens aged 15 and 17 when they killed Lane during a random drive-by shooting in the town of Duncan.

He said the three teenagers had no motive other than to make a name for themselves.
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