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[Shompola]

the edram thread with bill at b3d is hilarious...

 

[Forsete]

Er, I thought the screen was downgraded from the earliest press units? Hence all the ghosting?

Well there were several false rumors about the PSP screen. The one you mentioned and then later two more, one saying PSP screens from the first batch of units were better than the later once (IIRC Sony changed screen manufacturers from Sharp to Samsung somewhere around then), later during the US launch a rumor surfaced saying US PSPs would have a downgraded screen compared to the Asian model.

All rumors - I believe - were proved to be false.

 

[kaching]

The rumor would seem pretty outlandish at face value but the poster, london-boy, has always been a fairly even-keeled member of B3D whose been there for years. The fact that he's the one posting it and also vouching for his source gives me pause not to dismiss it outright.

 

[Aika'svyse]

And people called the 360 core tard :lol

 

[Speevy]

What would be/is worse?


A) This
B) Microsoft's non-support of an HD format
C) Nintendo (again) not going for DVD's

 

[Fafalada]

remember, even if it has 1/3 of an SPE, it'd still have MGS4.
thanks to MGS4 the console war is already over.

Oh right, I completely forgot.
Japanese PS3 will also ship with a special code that detects if you insert MGS4 disc and selfdestructs the unit if you don't remove the disc within 10seconds.

 

[Goreomedy]

The rumor would seem pretty outlandish at face value but the poster, london-boy, has always been a fairly even-keeled member of B3D whose been there for years. The fact that he's the one posting it and also vouching for his source gives me pause not to dismiss it outright.

The rumor seems outlandish because it's complete bullshit. Come on, Kaching.

 

[PhatSaqs]

As long as it still plays games I dont see a problem. Fuck BC.

 

[Speevy]

As long as it still plays games I dont see a problem. Fuck BC.

That's the spirit.

 

[BlueTsunami]

That's the spirit.

:lol

I think its untrue and is made to stir up controversy in the gaming community. Who knows what lengths companies will go to garner attention . Its all part of their (Sony's) plan to dominate

 

[DarienA]

And people called the 360 core tard :lol

Except the 360 core wasn't a rumor... it's reality!

 

[Aika'svyse]

I'm sorry if this is true it's huge, especially considering all the idiots dissing 360s seemingly limited BC at the moment.

 

[Wollan]

I can't believe people are believing this.

Of course Sony won't go for a half-assed blu ray support and drop support for DVD, PS1, PS2..etc.
They would rather go for DVD only instead of doing that.

 

[Razoric]

I'm sorry if this is true it's huge, especially considering all the idiots dissing 360s seemingly limited BC at the moment.

It's pretty much assured that this is NOT true no matter how much you want it to be.

 

[Speevy]

We'll say it's definitely true, but only for the purposes of this thread.

Boo PS2.5 doomstation 3.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Bah, just delay delay delay (if true). I don't want a pale image of a system that should have been. Sorta like Windows Vista.

 

[jett]

You'd have to be pretty stupid(or from OA) to believe that.

 

[Aika'svyse]

It's pretty much assured that this is NOT true no matter how much you want it to be.

Now why would I want to believe this? I have a PS2 and games in the other room. Nah I'd rather they be BC.

 

[kaching]

The rumor seems outlandish because it's complete bullshit. Come on, Kaching.

From my perspective, having lurked B3D for awhile, it also comes across as "complete bullshit" to me to dismiss a rumor out-of-hand that london-boy sees fit to post. He's not simply linking to a rumor he's seen elsewhere, he's providing info direct from a contact he trusts at EA. I don't have any reason to believe that l-b would simply be yanking everyone's chain, based on his posting history.

 

[DarienA]

From my perspective, having lurked B3D for awhile, it also comes across as "complete bullshit" to me to dismiss a rumor out-of-hand that london-boy sees fit to post. He's not simply linking to a rumor he's seen elsewhere, he's providing info direct from a contact he trusts at EA. I don't have any reason to believe that l-b would simply be yanking everyone's chain, based on his posting history.

Regardless of the posters' posting history the fact is releasing a device without the ability to read DVD's would go against the whole this is the center of your living room that Sony is/has been pushing the PS3 as.

 

[BlueTsunami]

From my perspective, having lurked B3D for awhile, it also comes across as "complete bullshit" to me to dismiss a rumor out-of-hand that london-boy sees fit to post. He's not simply linking to a rumor he's seen elsewhere, he's providing info direct from a contact he trusts at EA. I don't have any reason to believe that l-b would simply be yanking everyone's chain, based on his posting history.

I actually post there and I concur with what you just said. But it could be L-B relaying information knowing that it will put everyone in a tizzy :evil:



This news will spread like wildfire! I fear going to TeamXbox knowing this is floating around the net >.>

 

[Speevy]

Regardless of the posters' posting history the fact is releasing a device without the ability to read DVD's would go against the whole this is the center of your living room that Sony is/has been pushing the PS3 as.

Maybe it's true now, and will ultimately cause a substantial PS3 delay. Then by the time the PS3 launches, it won't be true.

 

[FortNinety]

How could anyone believe this? On of the reasons that Sony has been so successful with the PlayStation is their backwards compatibility mantra, and they know this. Was there not some report where they stated that they felt the PS2 was a failure because it didn't become an entertainment hub? I highly doubt Sony would abandon that ship.

 

[Lord Error]

As long as it still plays games I dont see a problem. Fuck BC.

The lack of DVD movie support would make it an even tougher sell than the lack of BC. Also, the incomplete compatibility with BR standard (single layer only) would screw up that side of the media playback too, with huge complications to movie industry. Games are literally just half of the picture on PS3, and there's so much at stake with the second half that this rumor better not be true.

 

[Speevy]

Just for the record (like there's a record), I don't think this will be true, ultimately. But it's funny to see the umpteen millionth thread that discusses a thing at length which will more than likely never come to fruition. Doesn't it tire you guys out?

 

[Joates]

Doesnt it say it will only affect the launch systems in Japan, so its not a huge deal. No?

 

[Ponn]

Why the hell did this go to 2 pages???

 

[Speevy]

Doesnt it say it will only affect the launch systems in Japan, so its not a huge deal. No?

GAF loves to import?

 

[kaching]

Regardless of the posters' posting history the fact is releasing a device without the ability to read DVD's would go against the whole this is the center of your living room that Sony is/has been pushing the PS3 as.

Yes, if we simply disregard the poster's history at B3D, the rumor is ridiculous on its own merit and I've already expressed that. But I'm not content to simply disregard l-b's history. This could all be an elaborate joke on l-b's part or his trusted source at EA is not so trustworthy, I acknowledge that. That still doesn't allow me to dismiss it outright.

 

[kaching]

Doesn't it tire you guys out?

No. Next question.

 

[Speevy]

Remember when an "EA source" said the Revolution controller was just a Gamecube one with no face buttons or something like that?

 

[Goreomedy]

Doesnt it say it will only affect the launch systems in Japan, so its not a huge deal. No?

And "probably not even all of" those! If the suggestion that only some launch units will have fucked BC and limited multimedia doesn't convince you this is bullshit, I've got a PSP box I'm willing to sell you for $250.

 

[Bebpo]

Doesnt it say it will only affect the launch systems in Japan, so its not a huge deal. No?

Which makes it even more ridiculous because Sony owns Japan. If they wait an extra 3 months to launch the system maybe 300 people will buy an X360 in Japan. Having no competition in that region they have absolutely no reason to rush launch, especially if it means messed up systems.

 

[urk]

I just got off the phone with Sony customer support. I'm planing on picking up a new HDTV and I wanted to get some answers for some of the conflicting info on the KD34XBR960N regarding display format, upscaling, and lines of resolution.

Anyway, this rep goes on to tell me that Sony doesn't publish lines of resolution due to the differing methods of measurement and the lack of an industry standard test. She also states that it really doesn't matter too much anyway and asks why it is important to me. I tell her I am thinking about High Definition in the future, specifically HD DVD formats like Blu-Ray.

Get this, this lady tells me that Blu-Ray isn't High Definition. She say, "It's close, but not true High Definition." I say she's batshit insane. I can't find much to support her statement, but it is kind of alarming considering the source. Is there any truth to such a statement? Does anyone know what in the hell she was talking about? I would have pressed ehr further, but my phone was ringing and I had to click over.

 

[EviLore]

I just got off the phone with Sony customer support. I'm planing on picking up a new HDTV and I wanted to get some answers for some of the conflicting info on the KD34XBR960N regarding display format, upscaling, and lines of resolution.

Anyway, this rep goes on to tell me that Sony doesn't publish lines of resolution due to the differing methods of measurement and the lack of an industry standard test. She also states that it really doesn't matter too much anyway and asks why it is important to me. I tell her I am thinking about High Definition in the future, specifically HD DVD formats like Blu-Ray.

Get this, this lady tells me that Blu-Ray isn't High Definition. She say, "It's close, but not true High Definition." I say she's batshit insane. I can't find much to support her statement, but it is kind of alarming considering the source. Is there any truth to such a statement? Does anyone know what in the hell she was talking about? I would have pressed ehr further, but my phone was ringing and I had to click over.

Hopefully you got her name and can forward this bit of information to her manager, because she doesn't know what she's talking about and shouldn't be employed in that position.

 

[Aika'svyse]

Hopefully you got her name and can forward this bit of information to her manager, because she doesn't know what she's talking about and shouldn't be employed in that position.

jk

 

[Lord Error]

Yeah, that's a complete BS about BR. 1080p is the highest high definition there is.

She's right about the TV, though. It's difficult to tell the actual resolution of a CRT TV set.

 

[BlueTsunami]

I don't understand why she would say that. Blu-Ray is supposed to be able to output as 1080p (1980x1080). Also, High Definition? What is High Definition? 720p is considered High Def, if Blu-Ray cannot pull that off then I don't understand why so many companies have been or moved to the Blu-Ray camp.

*puzzled*

 

[Stinkles]

remember, even if it has 1/3 of an SPE, it'd still have MGS4.

thanks to MGS4 the console war is already over.

Which was your favorite gameplay moment in the MGS4 reveal? Mine was shut the fuck up.


The main reason I doubt this will happen is that there's no way anyone can release even a standalone Blu-Ray player that doesn't read DVDs.

 

[maynerd]

NO way is this true. It would be a REALLY bad move if this were true. I don't buy it. You can't tell me that they can't get an existing technology put into the PS3. Part of the Blu-ray deal for players would be that they would be able to play regular dvds. I just don't see sony doing this.

 

[mrklaw]

maybe someone in EA tried to play a CD or DVD in a devkit and it didn't work - so the devkits are bluray only? and adding 1 + 1 and getting 4?

 

[D3VI0US]

C) Nintendo (again) not going for DVD's

?!?! I thought DVD was confirmed for Rev.

 

[BlueTsunami]

maybe someone in EA tried to play a CD or DVD in a devkit and it didn't work - so the devkits are bluray only? and adding 1 + 1 and getting 4?

:lol BWHAHAHAAAH if true

It seems kinda fishy. Internet influxes like these sometimes garner responses. Hopefully it blows up and Sony responds in some fashion.

 

[Mooreberg]

Not gonna happen. Due to the initial high manufacturing costs of Blu-ray discs, most early games have to be on DVD-ROM.

Not to mention losing DVD-Video support.

Not just early games, but I'm guessing most cross-platform games throughout the life of the system. The 7GB of space on Xbox 360 discs are going to be a bottleneck for companies like EA, Activision, and Ubisoft.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

A post on Beyond3D doesn't mean shit until Sony actually steps up and says something. As of now, this is just rumor bullshit.

 

[MrSingh]

Oh right, I completely forgot.
Japanese PS3 will also ship with a special code that detects if you insert MGS4 disc and selfdestructs the unit if you don't remove the disc within 10seconds.

Japanese PS3 will come with a Maria Ozawa BRD pack-in.

 

[Pimpwerx]

you forget that some USB ports on PS3 project was dropped too
the are aiming tu cut cost where they can

That's a lie. How many USB ports were announced at E3? How many are present today? Now STFU.

This rumor is outright stupid. Not being able to read DL-BD? Movies will ship on that format. That kills the trojan horse before it ever gets established. Not reading DVD and CDs? WTF? That kills established libraries. Dumbest rumor ever. l-b is a good guy, this is pure bunk. PEACE.

 

[DCharlie]

Preseneter : Lovely Pam from Essex, we asked our survery : Name something that it very unlikely?

Pam : ... PS3 can only play Bluray disks?

Presenter : Survey says.... *ding ding ding* And that's our top answer with 98....

 

[BobTheFork]

The first thing I EVER remember hearing about the ps3 was a call Sony made for programmers for the BC. They wanted people to help write software emulators for the ps and ps2. BC is the reason I finally bought a ps2 instead of an x-box. I hope they aren't that stupid.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

Preseneter : Lovely Pam from Essex, we asked our survery : Name something that it very unlikely?

Pam : ... PS3 can only play Bluray disks?

Presenter : Survey says.... *ding ding ding* And that's our top answer with 98....

wasn't it you who said sony would fuck over the first buyers of ps3? what was that all about?

if it wasn't you, excuse me.