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PS3 to cost $300-$400?

I believe this news.

"”PS3 will be bundled with a selection of preloaded films, TV programs and games”"


PS3 HDD what
 
One of the comments on the article is that Sony should bundle a High Def version of Spiderman 2 with the PS3 (Blu-Ray disk). Thats not a bad idea.
 
Yeah a BRD could hold a movie along with some game demos and preview clips. At this point I'll be surprised if the launch price is anything other than $399.99

They got the first two systems out at a lower price but with the amount of 'stuff' they're putting in this and the fact that people will already have been exposed to a $399.99 system with the XB360 premium pack leads me to believe they'll take this route. They're never going to manufacture enough for launch, so the higher price won't even do much in the first few months.
 
You may as well also believe you wont see it in north american stores till this time next yr. So who really cares right now?
 
Sony should launch in North America first this Spring. They don't need to worry about 360 hurting them much in Japan or Europe. North America is where 360 will do it's damage.

A $300-400 PS3 sounds nice to me.
 
Other than anti-PlayStation zealots, are there people out there who genuinely believe the PS3 will cost more than Xbox 360?

Sony took big losses on initial sales of the PlayStation and PS2. Microsoft took even bigger losses on the Xbox to establish itself in the industry. Sony will do the same with the PS3 in an attempt to establish Blu-ray as the DVD successor.

Not to mention the basic marketing concept of competition.
 
Foil said:
Sony should launch in North America first this Spring. They don't need to worry about 360 hurting them much in Japan or Europe. North America is where 360 will do it's damage.

A $300-400 PS3 sounds nice to me.

It DOES sound very nice but who the hell really knows at this point.
 
SKOPE said:
Other than anti-PlayStation zealots, are there people out there who genuinely believe the PS3 will cost more than Xbox 360?

Sony took big losses on initial sales of the PlayStation and PS2. Microsoft took even bigger losses on the Xbox to establish itself in the industry. Sony will do the same with the PS3 in an attempt to establish Blu-ray as the DVD successor.

Not to mention the basic marketing concept of competition.

This is what I am fully expecting to happen after the Stringer comments.

1) A fall pre-holiday launch in America for PS3 at $399.99
2) The 360 core pack to be phased out by then and only the Premium pack
3) Maybe, possibly a change in the Premium pack contents but nothing major. Something like the Remote Control and Headset taken out
4) A 360 Premium Pack price drop to 299.99 at PS3 Launch
 
SKOPE said:
Other than anti-PlayStation zealots, are there people out there who genuinely believe the PS3 will cost more than Xbox 360?

Sony took big losses on initial sales of the PlayStation and PS2. Microsoft took even bigger losses on the Xbox to establish itself in the industry. Sony will do the same with the PS3 in an attempt to establish Blu-ray as the DVD successor.

Not to mention the basic marketing concept of competition.
Who to believe? "SKOPE" (if that is your real name) or Ken Kuturagi who said it would be? Who do I believe?!

Tune in next time... Same GAF time, same GAF channel.

Ponn01 said:
3) Maybe, possibly a change in the Premium pack contents but nothing major. Something like the Remote Control and Headset taken out
The pack in remote's days are already numbered. It's only a "limited time" offer to begin with.
 
raYne said:
Who to believe? "SKOPE" (if that is your real name) or Ken Kuturagi who said it would be? Who do I believe?!
Ken said similar things about the PS2 before it was released. And whaddya know? The PlayStation 2 debuted at the same price the PlayStation originally sold for, and less in Japan.
Ponn01 said:
This is what I am fully expecting to happen after the Stringer comments.

1) A fall pre-holiday launch in America for PS3 at $399.99
2) The 360 core pack to be phased out by then and only the Premium pack
3) Maybe, possibly a change in the Premium pack contents but nothing major. Something like the Remote Control and Headset taken out
4) A 360 Premium Pack price drop to 299.99 at PS3 Launch
I question Microsoft's commitment to the Xbox 360 hard disk drive. It's expensive to manufacture, only required for one 360 game, and hardcore gamers--who tend to be the first to buy new game consoles--are the only ones who insist they need it.

It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft slowly placed more emphasis on the Core Pack and eventually phased out the Premium Pack and Xbox 360 hard disk drive.

Of course, I do fully expect Microsoft to make life difficult for SCEI in the pricing department.
 
raYne said:
Who to believe? "SKOPE" (if that is your real name) or Ken Kuturagi who said it would be? Who do I believe?!

Tune in next time... Same GAF time, same GAF channel.

I've seen him say it'd be expensive, but has he ever said what it'd be expensive compared to? For alot of people 300-400 is very expensive.
 
correction,

Ps3 to launch between 299 and 299.99, period. As for Ken saying it will be expensive, expect him to reveal the official price, stating something like, "i did say it would be expensive, just as expensive as the ps2 when we first introduced it in the market."

xbots am cry. :D GAF = madness. Can't wait. :D :D
 
Doube D said:
correction,

Ps3 to launch between 299 and 299.99, period. As for Ken saying it will be expensive, expect him to reveal the official price, stating something like, "i did say it would be expensive, just as expensive as the ps2 when we first introduced it in the market."

xbots am cry. :D GAF = madness. Can't wait. :D :D


I read stuff like this and thank God I've been blessed with a career that allows me to afford more than one gaming console. :D
 
I'll repeat my ban offer.

If PS3 launches at $300 or less in the US, in 2006, with Blu-Ray movie playback, I'll take a lengthy ban (say 3 months).

Anybody want to make the ban bet?
 
Chiggs said:
I read stuff like this and thank God I've been blessed with a career that allows me to afford more than one gaming console. :D

Being able to afford something has very little to do with brand loyalty. There are people that could afford a ferrari and a lamborghini, but always chose one over the other... That is how people work. I highly doubt the price wars on GAF have to do with the fact that different people can't afford to buy more than one console if they wanted to.
 
Chiggs said:
I read stuff like this and thank God I've been blessed with a career that allows me to afford more than one gaming console. :D
Funny, I read them and wonder why all these people with the ability to see the future always hang around gaming forums?... *shrug* Use your powers for good!

;)

The cheaper the better (obviously), but if it launches at $300 or less with X amount of games I'm interested in I'll be picking it up at launch instead of the pricedrop stance I've been sticking to. :)

That said, I don't expect that to be the case.
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
I'll repeat my ban offer.

If PS3 launches at $300 or less in the US, in 2006, with Blu-Ray movie playback, I'll take a lengthy ban (say 3 months).

Anybody want to make the ban bet?
I have to go with you on that one.. I'll say $349.99-$399.99 will be the price.
 
I'm on board too. No way it's 299.

And really, if that is the case, does any fair-minded multiplatform gamer really want to post here after that?
 
Doube D said:
Being able to afford something has very little to do with brand loyalty. There are people that could afford a ferrari and a lamborghini, but always chose one over the other... That is how people work. I highly doubt the price wars on GAF have to do with the fact that different people can't afford to buy more than one console if they wanted to.


But Ferrari's and Lamborghini's are BOTH pretty sweet rides, so if you can afford them both... well...

Also, no offense to anyone around here, but brand loyalty, to an extent, is for suckers. The only thing any company cares about is your money, so forming some sort of emotional attachment to the company itself is wonderfully pathetic. And I really mean pathetic.
 
Chiggs said:
But Ferrari's and Lamborghini's are BOTH pretty sweet rides, so if you can afford them both... well...

Also, no offense to anyone around here, but brand loyalty, to an extent, is for suckers. The only thing any company cares about is your money, so forming some sort of emotional attachment to the company itself is wonderfully pathetic.

Yesh, yes it is. Sony did loan me a 10 spot though

:o
 
Chiggs said:
Also, no offense to anyone around here, but brand loyalty, to an extent, is for suckers. The only thing any company cares about is your money, so forming some sort of emotional attachment to the company itself is wonderfully pathetic. And I really mean pathetic.
WTF dude? Sony invented Da Gaming! Of course they care!

....
 
Chiggs said:
But Ferrari's and Lamborghini's are BOTH pretty sweet rides, so if you can afford them both... well...

Also, no offense to anyone around here, but brand loyalty, to an extent, is for suckers. The only thing any company cares about is your money, so forming some sort of emotional attachment to the company itself is wonderfully pathetic. And I really mean pathetic.

Umm, thats like saying liking/being loyal to a particular musician or actor is really pathetic, cause they only care about you buying their movie/concert tickets. It’s like saying, why drink gray goose when you can drink generic and get the same hit for less? Why buy a 200K car when a 15K will also get you from A to B? Blind loyalty is stupid. Loyalty to a brand that has provided you with gaming bliss for over ten years is not.
 
Doube D said:
Umm, thats like saying liking/being loyal to a particular musician or actor is really pathetic, cause they only care about you buying their movie/concert tickets. It’s like saying, why drink gray goose when you can drink generic and get the same hit for less? Why buy a 200K car when a 15K will also get you from A to B? Blind loyalty is stupid. Loyalty to a brand that has provided you with gaming bliss for over ten years is not.

Well, I did say said "to an extent".

The bottom line is that I feel it's pretty stupid to limit yourself to just one console. Sony's not the only game in town (although, they are arguably the best in a lot of areas). That said, I agree with you about the "ten years of gaming bliss" statement. Sony's done a hell of a lot of things right, and I certainly respect (hell, maybe even appreciate) them for that ; believe me, nobody dumped their 3DO and Jaguar faster than me, in favor of the PSX.
 
Chiggs said:
Well, I did say said "to an extent".

The bottom line is that I feel it's pretty stupid to limit yourself to just one console.


It is stupid but most people do that. Not because they wanna be loyal to company but because they feel "secure" with that company.

Sony has given casual gamers and hardcore gamers games that both can enjoy. 3rd party support has always been top notch on PS systems. So once its time for someone to go next-gen they will usually support the product that has been giving them the best.

Anyway I don't think it'll be $299.99 but if its Xbots AM CRY. If you ask I would say it'll be $349.99 but we'll see...
 
BlueTsunami said:
One of the comments on the article is that Sony should bundle a High Def version of Spiderman 2 with the PS3 (Blu-Ray disk). Thats not a bad idea.
Hell, if it releases next fall, they should bundle it with spiderman 3 (which i am guessing comes out next summer)

now THAT would be a great idea
 
Suburban Cowboy said:
Hell, if it releases next fall, they should bundle it with spiderman 3 (which i am guessing comes out next summer)

now THAT would be a great idea

Yes, thats even better! No matter what. I can't wait to start seeing how DVDs look in full High Def glory.
 
SKOPE said:
Other than anti-PlayStation zealots, are there people out there who genuinely believe the PS3 will cost more than Xbox 360?
Yep. I'm not anti-PS, I'm surely more pro-Xbox but I'm not against PS3, and I can easily see PS3 costing more than 360. At least 50$ but probably 100$ more. This sounds pretty obvious to me, because:

1 - PS3 will cost more to manufacture, it's a fact.
2 - PS3 will come later in the Xbox 360 life cycle, so 360 will be ready for a price cut on both its SKUs
3 - Microsoft is willing to win like Sony is, and they'll be able to match every subsidizing loss Sony will put on the table. Make PS3 cost $300 and loose $200 on every console? Well, let us make 360 cost $200 and loose $200 on every console too (only an example). However, Sony is AFAIK *much more* financially trobled than MS, and they'll be much more cautious in subsidizing their hardware.

PS3 will cost more than Xbox 360, it's a no brainer. Other than PlayStation-fanboy-zealots, are there people out there who genuinely believe it won't? ;-)
 
Spider_Jerusalem said:
Yep. I'm not anti-PS, I'm surely more pro-Xbox but I'm not against PS3, and I can easily see PS3 costing more than 360. At least 50$ but probably 100$ more. This sounds pretty obvious to me, because:

1 - PS3 will cost more to manufacture, it's a fact.
2 - PS3 will come later in the Xbox 360 life cycle, so 360 will be ready for a price cut on both its SKUs
3 - Microsoft is willing to win like Sony is, and they'll be able to match every subsidizing loss Sony will put on the table. Make PS3 cost $300 and loose $200 on every console? Well, let us make 360 cost $200 and loose $200 on every console too (only an example). However, Sony is AFAIK *much more* financially trobled than MS, and they'll be much more cautious in subsidizing their hardware.

PS3 will cost more than Xbox 360, it's a no brainer. Other than PlayStation-fanboy-zealots, are there people out there who genuinely believe it won't? ;-)
Almost everything you wrote also applies to the Xbox over the PlayStation 2.

Sony has a lot riding on Blu-ray. I fully expect it to take Xbox-level losses on the PS3 in an attempt to establish it as the DVD successor.

Again, not to mention the concept of competition.
 
SKOPE said:
Almost everything you wrote also applies to the Xbox over the PlayStation 2.

Sony has a lot riding on Blu-ray. I fully expect it to take Xbox-level losses on the PS3 in an attempt to establish it as the DVD successor.

Again, not to mention the concept of competition.

I don't know, how much is Sony expecting to lose on each PS3? MS said that they'll lose about $75 per 360, last I heard.
 
Look for Sony to come up with a $399 package that handily beats out what we're getting with the premium pack from MS.

Those expecting a price around $299 are just being willfully ignorant.

MS is launching at $399 and looks to have sold out their first few initial shipments. Why on fucking Earth would Sony, having a more desirable product in the eyes of the mainstream, launch at $299 when they are guaranteed the same luxury of selling out their first several months stocks of PS3's at the higher price point?

Oh yeah, TO HIT M$ WHERE IT HURT THEY WANT TO CRUSH LOLZ RITE?

This is multibillion dollar business, not a goddamn schoolyard fight.
 
Spider_Jerusalem said:
3 - Microsoft is willing to win like Sony is, and they'll be able to match every subsidizing loss Sony will put on the table. Make PS3 cost $300 and loose $200 on every console? Well, let us make 360 cost $200 and loose $200 on every console too (only an example). However, Sony is AFAIK *much more* financially trobled than MS, and they'll be much more cautious in subsidizing their hardware.

Sony's financial situation has been 'troubled' (as the analysts at GAF like to put it) for some time now and yet SCEI has remained the market leader. You should learn to separate Sony and SCEI - they are not one and the same.

You should also note that M$ is the same company that produce the XBox. The very same company that threw $5 Billion at it and still ended up being outsold by an older and visibly technically inferior machine 4 to 1. Obviously money isn't everything.

They've stated next gen that they will not being losing that kind of money on X360. That's the reason for no standard HDD at $299. That's the reason for no WiFi included. That's the reason for no next gen media. That's the reason for expensive peripherals. So no, they won't match every subsidizing loss Sony will put on the table. In fact, their pricing is already less agressive than it was last gen.
 
I'm hoping Sony packs in their HDD with the PS3 from day one. One SKU, and that's it. It would be a big plus for them if they did. Doubtful though.
 
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