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PS4 BETA firmware 5.00 out today
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cozomel
Member
We've been told its coming soon by Sony since last Thursday the 14th and here we are almost a week later still waiting not to mention a shit ton of us got knocked out of the beta by thr 4.7.4 update because of auto update/install. I tell you, Sony has got to be one of the most incompetent and slow software writing companies in the world.
RedAssedApe
Banned
they probably care more about people being able to play destiny than people getting inconvenienced as part of a beta :\
wouldn't say they are wrong in that though. if you're willing to signup for a beta be ready for some hiccups.
I expect beta bugs, but not random downgrades without confirmation.
As far as I know the option to downgrade is available via the system update menu, so people who wanted to downgrade could use that. They shouldn't be randomly downgrading people with no warning or way to opt out of the install.
cozomel
Member
While I hear ya, there is/was a way to opt out, and that was to uncheck auto updates/installs. But yeah, i hear ya, Sony is very amateurish and it never should have come to this.
endlessflood
Member
Thanks deim0s.
I'm not sure if it'll work the same with 4.74 in the mix, but for the last Beta update I found that manually checking for an update didn't find it, but going to Rest mode and then waking the PS4 back up did.
Spaulding
Member
You can disable the automatic download of firmware updates, though... It can be enabled/disabled in the options available during rest mode.
Saint of Killers
Member
Thank fuck.
Saint of Killers
Member
It did for me. Appeared below 4.74 in notifications.
edit: To be clear, I hadn't updated to 4.74.
endlessflood
Member
So you went to Settings > System Software Update and it appeared there for you to select? Or do you mean that it found it when you turned your PS4 on?
ScaryShark
Banned
Finally. Thanks.
Darth Smurf X
Member
FINALLY. I had enabled a bunch of notifications because they can be disabled during videos in Hulu and Netflix, then I got reverted and I had pop-ups non-stop, but didn't feel like going back in and disabling them all again.
ScaryShark
Banned
Oh hey, those smooth menus and home screen is back. I missed you.
hikarutilmitt
Member
It depends, honestly. Usually these betas don't go beyond 4, maybe 5 if it's a big update. This one has had a lot of changes in a lot of places, then this fiasco of whatever they patched in 4.74 hitting also had to be rolled into beta 6 and then confirmed stable through testing. If they are happy with this we'll probably see 5.0 final in a couple of weeks, though.
yeah bumping down to 4.xx really made clear the speed and fluidity improvements they've made for the interface in 5.xx. glad to have it back.
MarlboroMan
Neo Member
All my PS2 Games updated after installing Beta 6. Does that mean, that they changed something at the emulator?
stargateheaven
Member
interesting.. what do the patches say on each game?
or was it just patches that didnt install when you got downgraded to 4.74?
Could be. Did they actually update or do they just show as they updated? Have you seen any difference in performance?
I used to think it was placebo too (because of it rebuilding databse whenever it updates can make it feel smoother) but I agree. When downgraded to 4.74 it felt really slow in comparison
cozomel
Member
Exactly, to all those not in the beta thinking its probably just placebo, cuz you've heard it all before (typically in every update), its not, its the real deal! Especially when you go back from 5.00 to 4.7.4 then you can really feel it and you know its true, 4.7.4 feels so rough in comparison to 5.00 that it makes you wonder how you ever put up with it.
And to the guy asking how long these betas usually last. They usually last about a month and sevral days and the beta went out on April 17th, so its been a month and several days. so probably soon, though I've never seen them have so much trouble or get as many complaints of issues and problems than i have in this beta. I think there is more to this beta than mights the eye. I think its a FreeBSD/UI update.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Karspankey
Banned
The PS2 games update all the time with FW changes. Always around 10mb. Just background maintenance; nothing to pay attention to.
Black notifications back!
Strange, I've not had that and I've just gone and tried to manually update them but there were no updates available.
Can I ask which region your PS2 games are from? Mine are from the USA Store and I'm just wondering if yours are from the SCEE regions which could mean they've finally fixed the awfully 50Hz/60Hz conversion that these games had?
Are there any patch notes or revision numbers with the updates? what games have been updated?
Manhunt PS4 (USA) got a 1.01 patch and it just said "Bug fixes."
RedAssedApe
Banned
feels the same to me
Awesome. I really missed having the notifications in the quick menu.
cozomel
Member
August 17 not April 17
Lol, right, oops, didnt even notice i did that.
Arghhh! But i still get this on my external, for the love of Pete, Sony, fix this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz0p__-yL5w
Then i dont know what to tell you cuz the 4.7.4 felt like a stuttery mess to me while the 5.00b3-6 feels buttery smooth by comparison. Its are not perfect as there is still a hitch or two here and there but nothing in comparison to before. You use a SSD drive or a HDD? I use a HDD, also, i have like a 100 game tiles, literally on it, you got alot of tiles on it or a little? Im also on a US launch unit.
RedAssedApe
Banned
just the stock PS4 Pro HDD. Could be the tiles? i don't display all of them at once. Whatever the limit is...15? lol
boost mode one made sense...this one...probably not so much lol. i'm debating whether or not to install beta 6 or just wait...i'm assuming that the final release is out soon as it usually isn't in beta longer than a couple of months.
endlessflood
Member
I haven't had a single issue, other than their design choice to not allow the Custom friends Lists to be appear in the Quick Menu (you have to back out to the XMB to see them). For me this is as stable as any retail release, and Sony do love their stability.
Then you haven't dealt with many software companies in the enterprise space.
brickarts295
Member
So I finally got a Beta code email from Sony lol
Should I even bother updating or wait for the official patch.
Got the Pro btw.
Should I even bother updating or wait for the official patch.
Got the Pro btw.
endlessflood
Member
It's the same question you would've had to ask yourself at the very start of the Beta (or any Beta) TBH.
Finally back to 5.00 with B6. Oh boy it *is* buttery smooth in comparison to 4.x and everything before. Also black notifications <3
I've got in through a code by a fellow GAFfer, but is there a possibility to give them feedback since I didn't got an official invitation? Would love to report feedback in a forum or the like.
I've got in through a code by a fellow GAFfer, but is there a possibility to give them feedback since I didn't got an official invitation? Would love to report feedback in a forum or the like.
cozomel
Member
Yeah, that's exactly what it is, the less tiles the smoother, and yes the limit is 15, but if you keep it that low than yes, its smooth but if you're like me (and many other people) and have like a hundred game tiles, then yes, it gets very choppy and this FW addresses that.
I thought one of the problems was due to the FW, yet wasnt, cuz it was fixed by me taking out the USB drive and the other problem I experience is that it would default to notifications on the quick menu and they fixed that with the first beta update they did (beta 4). Other than that, no problems for me, smooth and stable as can be for me. The external HDD issue I've brung up many times has been there since they introduce the capability in 4.50 so its not a fw 5.0 issue. But suite yourself and keep being scared/worried over nothing and missing out.
I think if you're not offically selected then you might not be able to get into the forum but here its is if you can http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/System-Software-Beta-USA/bd-p/bEN_SystemSoftwareBetaUSA but for some weird reason, its to the EU forum even though Im in the US and got a US invitation. Good luck.
Yeah, cant say i have, can you fill me in?
Transistor
Banned
That's started before 5.00
Seriously, I was just thinking about that. This has taken forever
At this point Im expecting the final FW 5.00 update to have features that arent in the beta, they must be working on something.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Those features may also be game developers and app developers features that are invisible to you as a user and it would be good if more gamers considered that angle as well.
Look at iOS 11, look at Android Oreo, etc... the developer related changes are much much more than the user facing ones.
Sony is massively wasting a big occasion not publicising those Developer SDK related API changes/improvements and tools like Apple does at WWDC which always filters out (and the keynote is public). Gamers play games and games are made and depend on stuff nobody publicly talks about, massive PR opportunity loss.
RedAssedApe
Banned
General users dont care about this stuff though. The ones that do are the highly technical minority or console warriors.
Saint of Killers
Member
Does it only feel like this beta has been the longest running one yet?
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