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[ron_bato]

Does it only feel like this beta has been the longest running one yet?

Funny you say that, looks like 5.00 is out today: https://asia.playstation.com/en-sg/latest-news/2017/ps4-system-software-update-500-out-now/

 

[Rellik]

Seriously, I was just thinking about that. This has taken forever

I've never seen a PS beta have as many issues as this one. It takes time for the 3 interns to fix this shit.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Neither new features for the final version (like playing PS1 games or PS3 backward compatibility) nor the rumored 2 extra free movies and 2 extra free PS NOW games of choice after the unjstified PS Plus price increase.
If the next update doesn't bring any of those then they will never do it. I thought Sony would be smart enough to offer something valuable in order to counter the release of XB O X and all the great features it offers. Not to mention that the XB1 already offers some features the PS4 didn't get the honor to meet like previous gen backward compatibility, in default of the extra features the XB O X offers like automatic improvements of any game.
Sony really needs to care about their customers much more.

 

[VariantX]

Neither new features for the final version (like playing PS1 games or PS3 backward compatibility) nor the rumored 2 extra free movies and 2 extra free PS NOW games of choice after the unjstified PS Plus price increase.
If the next update doesn't bring any of those then they will never do it. I thought Sony would be smart enough to offer something valuable in order to counter the release of XB O X and all the great features it offers. Not to mention that the XB1 already offers some features the PS4 didn't get the honor to meet like previous gen backward compatibility, in default of the extra features the XB O X offers like automatic improvements of any game.
Sony really needs to care about their customers much more.

Microsoft only does what it does because they're not the market leader anymore. Sony is comfortable and they would offer more if it were a closer race.

 

[CEJames]

Neither new features for the final version (like playing PS1 games or PS3 backward compatibility) nor the rumored 2 extra free movies and 2 extra free PS NOW games of choice after the unjstified PS Plus price increase.
If the next update doesn't bring any of those then they will never do it. I thought Sony would be smart enough to offer something valuable in order to counter the release of XB O X and all the great features it offers. Not to mention that the XB1 already offers some features the PS4 didn't get the honor to meet like previous gen backward compatibility, in default of the extra features the XB O X offers like automatic improvements of any game.
Sony really needs to care about their customers much more.

Features? It's all about the gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaameeeezzzz and Sony has that in spades.

 

[ScaryShark]

Funny you say that, looks like 5.00 is out today: https://asia.playstation.com/en-sg/latest-news/2017/ps4-system-software-update-500-out-now/

Oh wow, finally.

 

[Behlel]

Neither new features for the final version (like playing PS1 games or PS3 backward compatibility) nor the rumored 2 extra free movies and 2 extra free PS NOW games of choice after the unjstified PS Plus price increase.
If the next update doesn't bring any of those then they will never do it. I thought Sony would be smart enough to offer something valuable in order to counter the release of XB O X and all the great features it offers. Not to mention that the XB1 already offers some features the PS4 didn't get the honor to meet like previous gen backward compatibility, in default of the extra features the XB O X offers like automatic improvements of any game.
Sony really needs to care about their customers much more.

Sorry but you're saying a lot of nonsense, first because Sony have a lot of features that xbox doesn't have (like share play, remote play and the built in gallery on the system).
The price increase of PS+ have nothing to do with PS Now and Movies (10€/$ at year for having movies and PS Now games? lol) but they've put their price in line with the Live Gold, and if you're hones enough you have to admit that the PS+ offer is way better than the Live With Gold.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Neither new features for the final version (like playing PS1 games or PS3 backward compatibility) nor the rumored 2 extra free movies and 2 extra free PS NOW games of choice after the unjstified PS Plus price increase.
If the next update doesn't bring any of those then they will never do it. I thought Sony would be smart enough to offer something valuable in order to counter the release of XB O X and all the great features it offers. Not to mention that the XB1 already offers some features the PS4 didn't get the honor to meet like previous gen backward compatibility, in default of the extra features the XB O X offers like automatic improvements of any game.
Sony really needs to care about their customers much more.

Don’t you think that the FW may actually be a big change for developers perhaps? As I said in my previous post, the amount of developer side changes in each iOS or macOS release dwarfs the user visible changes.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Don't you think that the FW may actually be a big change for developers perhaps? As I said in my previous post, the amount of developer side changes in each iOS or macOS release dwarfs the user visible changes.

Maybe, who knows. Maybe in the near future, Sony may free up more VRAM for the consoles and devs to allow more demanding games to take advantage of. The XB O X was supposed to allow only 8 GB VRAM for games but in the final stages it was changed to 9 GB. Sony could unlock at least 1 GB more.

 

[Panajev2001a]

General users don’t care about this stuff though. The ones that do are the highly technical minority or console warriors.

So essentially only NEEeEERDSS!!! and console warrior fanboys actually care about the tools that actually make their games possible? This would explain why some developers feel that their community is toxic... if it were true and I hope it is not.

 

[Saint of Killers]

Funny you say that, looks like 5.00 is out today: https://asia.playstation.com/en-sg/latest-news/2017/ps4-system-software-update-500-out-now/

 

[AuthenticM]

Before 5.00, you were only able to follow Verified Accounts, but now you can follow any user without having to be friends with them (subject to privacy settings).

So THAT'S why only the same fucking 50 or so people were always in the Follow list. This had been really picking at me. I thought there was a bug in the software or something.

 

[Negotiator]

I think they should boost the GPU clock when using fp16 or mixed precision.

What? Why?

 

[Negotiator]

Sony is massively wasting a big occasion not publicising those Developer SDK related API changes/improvements and tools like Apple does at WWDC which always filters out (and the keynote is public). Gamers play games and games are made and depend on stuff nobody publicly talks about, massive PR opportunity loss.

I agree, but I think it's because Sony has become perhaps more "arrogant" this gen.

Back in the PS3 era, we often had news and presentations like these:

https://www.engadget.com/2010/02/23/70mb-of-additional-ram-unlocked-for-ps3-developers/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az0CXkyoWjg

Microsoft only does what it does because they're not the market leader anymore. Sony is comfortable and they would offer more if it were a closer race.

Exactly. It's a matter of competition.

 

[state_vector_collapse]

Is it normal to be locked out of online services when you are in the beta? I'm new to the beta program and since the 6 update I can't go online, access the store etc. Cheers

 

[Behlel]

Is it normal to be locked out of online services when you are in the beta? I'm new to the beta program and since the 6 update I can't go online, access the store etc. Cheers

Because you have to update to the 5.0 official now.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Is it normal to be locked out of online services when you are in the beta? I'm new to the beta program and since the 6 update I can't go online, access the store etc. Cheers

The beta is over...

 

[AbandonedTrolley]

Is it normal to be locked out of online services when you are in the beta? I'm new to the beta program and since the 6 update I can't go online, access the store etc. Cheers

Also the terms of service have been updated and you have to accept those before gaining access to the online again.

 

[state_vector_collapse]

Ah well....that explains a lot I thought it was an ongoing thing like on the Xbox. Thanks for the replies

 

[Insane Metal]

I can confidently say the UI feels A LOT more responsive and smooth after this update.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

I can confidently say the UI feels A LOT more responsive and smooth after this update.

i came here to say the same thing

 

[Neith]

Well they fixed the HDMI issues, and I am very thankful for that. Give this FW one more polish pass and the PS4 UI is the best in the business IMO.

 

[Fisty]

I agree, but I think it's because Sony has become perhaps more "arrogant" this gen.

Back in the PS3 era, we often had news and presentations like these:

https://www.engadget.com/2010/02/23/70mb-of-additional-ram-unlocked-for-ps3-developers/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az0CXkyoWjg

Hmm I wonder if there was anything different between Sony's 3rd and 4th gen hardware that would account for this difference in messaging

 

[Negotiator]

Hmm I wonder if there was anything different between Sony's 3rd and 4th gen hardware that would account for this difference in messaging

PS3 was struggling. PS4 was a success from the get-go. That's all you need to know.