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PS4 Launch Thread [Thread being archived 1/1/14]

Insane Metal

Insane Metal

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Italian stallion said:
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.
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Hasney

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Really hope there's a Windows 8 Playstation app at some point. Being able to enter text via my laptop keyboard would just be ace.
 
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CitizenCope

Member
So I've bought a couple of HD movies off the store. HD image quality is pretty poor compared to my HD movie downloads on 360. Pretty grainy.
I don't think there is an option to download them so they are only available to stream? I have 5x the recommended speed for streaming but still the quality is not what I'm used to.
Also I can only find my movies in the store. So if the store is down or PSN is down I can't watch my movies?
 
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Kard8p3

Member
GAF, is it worth it to get a PS4 this holiday Christmas? My parents wont stop hassling me about what I want for Christmas. Tempted to just do that and be done.
 
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Forensic Scene

Member
Man, can't wait to get my 2nd controller from Amazon with that $30 trade coupon from before. Asked for an Amazon gift card from a relative for Christmas. Hope they pull through because I'm broke and that discount expires at the end of the year.
 
Tripolygon

Tripolygon

Banned
Kard8p3 said:
Well I know my parents love to give me stuff for Christmas, but I don't like having people spend money on me. That's why I'm conflicted lol.
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Can we trade parents for this Christmas or tell them to donate a PS4 to charity (me). You know, since Christmas is a time for giving and stuff?
 
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inner-G

Banned
Satchel said:
I caved.

Kept and set up my PS4. So hot. Want touch the heiny.

The analog rubber looks slightly different to the others I've seen. Mine is made in China though :(
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I got some analog stick grip cover things designed for the DS3 and they work great on the DS4.
 
Certinty

Certinty

Member
It really seems i'm the opposite of most people here. For me Resogun is boring whereas Contrast is pretty amazing. Really am surprised with how much i've enjoyed it so far, the storytelling and concept are beautiful.
 
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8byte

Banned
Is it possible to pipe party chat audio through a live stream? I imagine it isn't so as to protect privacy, but asking anyway.
 
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DigiMish

Member
8byte said:
Is it possible to pipe party chat audio through a live stream? I imagine it isn't so as to protect privacy, but asking anyway.
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I'm pretty sure yes as I've stumbled on a stream where a dude was playing Knack and I could hear other voices from the people in his party.
 
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_Isaac

Member
Loomba said:
My PS4 doesn't seem to be downloading updates in Standby...

I left it in standby over the weekend but as soon as I turned it on yesterday it started downloading updates for Blacklight and Contrast. Anyone know why it didn't update them whilst in standby?

I have it PS+ and have it enabled in settings btw.
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I have the same problem. I also have PS+ and I have it enabled in the settings. I don't think it has ever actually downloaded the update properly the way PS3 used to. There's been multiple times where I had to wait for an update to download before I could play. So far I haven't seen any benefits from standby mode.
 
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Skeff

Member
So this thing is launching in the middle east in less than 12 hours right?

We got any middle east GAF picking one up soon?
 
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Loomba

Member
_Isaac said:
I have the same problem. I also have PS+ and I have it enabled in the settings. I don't think it has ever actually downloaded the update properly the way PS3 used to. There's been multiple times where I had to wait for an update to download before I could play. So far I haven't seen any benefits from standby mode.
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Hopefully it can be fixed through a software patch soon and nothing is wrong with our hardware :\

Addnan said:
Amazon.com has digital copy of NBA2K14 for $39.99. Hurts. Paid $60 a week ago.
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Is this worth buying? I was up for it a while ago but I've heard people saying it's gone down the toilet..
 
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Hasney

Member
My PS4 seems to check for updates at 5am GMT daily looking at my notifications. It's the only time it auto-downloads.

If it's only checking for things once a day, it may explain why you haven't seen anything auto-download. It could be by design rather than a bug, which wouldn't be great.
 
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isb

Banned
If i want to buy the digital version of NBA2k14 from amazon.com and activate it on my EU machine after creating a US account, is this doable? Can i play it on my EU account afterwards?
 
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Addnan

Member
Loomba said:
Is this worth buying? I was up for it a while ago but I've heard people saying it's gone down the toilet..
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As a person from the UK who knows shit all about basketball I am enjoying it. Though I don't know how all the stuff is supposed to be so not in the position to give a technical answer!
isb said:
If i want to buy the digital version of NBA2k14 from amazon.com and activate it on my EU machine after creating a US account, is this doable? Can i play it on my EU account afterwards?
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Yes, that's what I do.
 
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Skeff

Member
isb said:
If i want to buy the digital version of NBA2k14 from amazon.com and activate it on my EU machine after creating a US account, is this doable? Can i play it on my EU account afterwards?
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Yes, you need a US postal address on your amazon account, some Gaffers are reporting that Amazon has requested a fax for their credit card address though to authorize some payments, though I'm a little unclear on that.

The codes must be redeemed on a US PSN account, but if that account has your PS4 registered as it's primary console(which it should), any other account can play the games on that account.
 
gamerforever

gamerforever

Banned
Love the new controller - best one ever made by any company imo!

Only problem is the placement of the Options and Share Buttons, but I think it's just a cognitive issue, with being so used to the DS3.

Lastly, why can't I play the Fifa 14 PS4 demo? I need a license for a demo?
 
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Hasney

Member
Skeff said:
Yes, you need a US postal address on your amazon account, some Gaffers are reporting that Amazon has requested a fax for their credit card address though to authorize some payments, though I'm a little unclear on that.

The codes must be redeemed on a US PSN account, but if that account has your PS4 registered as it's primary console(which it should), any other account can play the games on that account.
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I think the Amazon fax is either based on the bank rejecting after a few odd transactions when they've looked at the billing address, or multiple people using the same US address. I know a lot of people were using Google's HQ as the billing address at one point.

Currently sitting on 31 Amazon.com transactions here.
 
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Skeff

Member
Hasney said:
I think the Amazon fax is either based on the bank rejecting after a few odd transactions when they've looked at the billing address, or multiple people using the same US address. I know a lot of people were using Google's HQ as the billing address at one point.

Currently sitting on 31 Amazon.com transactions here.
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Thanks for the update, I'm planning on using this once I get through my launch/xmas/birthday games so it's good to know I should try and find an address a little less used.
 
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Hasney

Member
Skeff said:
Thanks for the update, I'm planning on using this once I get through my launch/xmas/birthday games so it's good to know I should try and find an address a little less used.
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Search for a business in Idaho and use their address. Seems to work a charm and no sales tax there.
 
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