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PS4 Launch Thread [Thread being archived 1/1/14]

Toa TAK

Banned
In my personal opinion? Go out and get a cheap PS3 now, they'll go down in price more but they are at a great price now from what I've seen

TLOU, Uncharted Series, Journey etc.

Have fun :)

Doubt Gaikai as it's currently presented will be that compelling

Yeah, I'm pretty sketchy about Gaikai, too.

Alright, to find a cheap PS3!
 
Is there any word on a PS4 Update? I thought we'd at least be hearing talk about it. There is so many things that are left unfinished and need updating... I'm surprised it is taking them this long.
 

Jburton

Banned
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.

Pile of shit post, full of old information and inaccuracies.

You should be ashamed of yourself junior, also why is this shit in the launch thread?
 
I don't know if this is the thread to ask this but here it goes:

I missed out on all of the PS3 exclusives last gen. Didn't play a single one since I don't own a PS3. Am I better off trying to find a really cheap PS3 to go back and play those or wait for Gaikai to come out later next year for the PS4?

I agree with Swift. You'll probably be waiting a long time and who knows what will even be offered when it does come out.

I had just picked up a PS3 last year and it killed my bank account. There are a ton of good exclusives. You won't be disappointed
 

oSoLucky

Member
Yeah, I'm pretty sketchy about Gaikai, too.

Alright, to find a cheap PS3!

I completely agree. They have done a great job with PS+. With Sony likely domination the marketshare for the beginning of this generation, who's to say just how good of a deal the Gaikai implementation will be, or even how thorough the library will be? We'll need more specific details before I would recommend to anyone to bank on that. I'm thinking of finding a 2nd PS3 for cheap to put in the other room myself. The main one is staying on the main TV for 3D Blu-Rays for now :(


Worst post in the thread.


Please think before you post or copy/paste in the future.
 
Question for anyone who can help!

My friend from El Salvador bought a PS4 here from the US when visiting me. He took it home, and is trying to set it up a US PSN account, but it's asking him for a US billing address.

Are there any tricks to get this to work? He wants to use his free PS+ Trial and $10 PSN Store Credit, and his 1 Year PS+ membership thereafter.

Can he just use my billing address for his card? Does he NEED a credit card to get set up if he already has PSN codes for everything he needs?

Thanks so much!!!

So a couple of things

  1. He can set up a US account by using a fake billing address and it will work fine
  2. To buy content on the US PSN store you can do it 2 ways
    1. Use a North American Credit Card [Look at "What payment methods can I use at the PlayStation®Store?"]
    2. Buy Playstation Cards from Amazon using whatever payment method Amazon US accepts from you
  3. To use the PS+ trial he must not have an active PS+ trial and must associate a North American CC with the account or so I'm told. 10 USD PSN card I'm not sure
 
Because the PS4 only has a 2.4ghz Wifi Card

It's a stupid design and reminiscent of the PS3's terrible Wifi Card

I have no idea why they couldn't see that a 5ghz compatible card would be far more future proof

They must be planning on skipping that and jumping to AC at some point with a revision.
 

nib95

Banned
So um yeah.

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Just need to decide whether I keep it or eBay it.

Keep it. Decent campaign, the ultimate next gen graphical show case, and one of the best multiplayer experiences available on the console. Add to that, you'll need a second controller if you play a lot and want to leave one charging whilst you play with the other. The camera is.. Well free so who cares lol.
 

Satchel

Banned
I bought a digital copy.

WHAT WAS I THINKING?

Maybe the single-player mode is better the second time through when you've gone through all the frustrations? I mean... it's pretty. I guess it's worth getting since it's a pretty launch title and the multiplayer is OK. I just feel that even CoD: Ghosts is the better purchase if you MUST buy a FPS (BF4 would be my choice in a perfect world where it's not broken as shit). For SP only types, ACIV and Knack are much better purchases.

Is your PSN name the same as your Live?

I have you on Live I'll add PSN. Maybe I'll keep just for you :)

We can be KZ buddies
 

Satchel

Banned
Keep it. Decent campaign, the ultimate next gen graphical show case, and one of the best multiplayer experiences available on the console. Add to that, you'll need a second controller if you play a lot and want to leave one charging whilst you play with the other. The camera is.. Well free so who cares lol.

I need this question answered honestly. If I disliked KZ 2 and liked KZ 3, will I like KZ SF?
 

sector4

Member
I need this question answered honestly. If I disliked KZ 2 and liked KZ 3, will I like KZ SF?
Shadow Fall is not really similar to either 2 or 3, it's closer to KZ 1 in terms of feel to me.

Edit:// As for technical side, it plays flawlessly, and that's largely due to the DS4, it finally handles like a proper FPS and looks amazing too.
 
My launch console keeps cutting power*. First did it while I was playing resogun, then did it in the menu, and just now it did it during a wakeup after being on stand by. Working fine again at the moment (eventually)**. But im wondering if any one else has had this problem? Google didnt turn up anything. Gonna try a different plug later in case its something to do with that but i cant see how as nothing else i use on the same plug (on the anti surge protection extension turns off)

*it just goes of as if the power was cut, no beeps.

** i can also be ok for hours playing, it seems kinda random.
 

wizzbang

Banned
Oh dear it won't get to the menu at all now. Looks like im calling Sony in the morning :(

Do we have a "PS4 improvement request and list" thread anywhere? I used mine in Australia for the first time last night and while I quite like it, I can see several things I'd like to see improved.
 

Dunlop

Member
Ice cold but not entirely bad advice :/

Still think KZ is worth playing though

Finally got my PS4, I played about 10 minutes of KZ and while purdy I am really not digging it

...course I am beyond burnt out from work so that might be a factor :p

That light on the DS4 is far worse than I thought it would be (basement, plasma) can't believe I am thinking about actually taping it lol

I picked up the extra warranty from the PlayStation Store, I have the receipt in my e-mail, is there anything else that needs to be done?

So far liking the speed of the OS and how quiet the system is, my PS3 was my Netflix box of choice but it had become quite loud
 

delta25

Banned
I'm sorry but I really cant stomach the idea that someone who really has no interest in the system outside trying to make a quick buck off some poor shumcks desperation to actually own something he/she will enjoy to its fullest.
 
Hmmmm. Interesting turn of events.

I may enjoy this game then.

Yeah the gunplay/controls feel amazing to me, especially with the DS4 analog sticks and lack of auto aim. It's kind of crazy just how good it is because you never fight with the controls at all, whereas I can see people feeling that KZ2 was way too unwieldy. I had the same complaint, although I put up with it in KZ2 and still found the game quite enjoyable inspite of the poor controls.

Graphics and controls are nailed down in Shadow Fall.

The rest is up to personal preference regarding the campaign. I'm a bit shocked at how many people dislike it, but then again I feel a lot of people didn't take the time to learn how to utilize all of the OWL mechanics and got easily frustrated.
 
Amazon says this:
Due to extremely high demand, Amazon.com is currently sold out of PlayStation 4 inventory. However, there may be offers available from Marketplace Sellers. Please check back here for Amazon.com PlayStation 4 availability.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BGA9WK2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Not for any other console though, so demand is extremely high. I do wish more of my friends could find one (at least I got one by preordering mine).
 

Derrick01

Banned
I'm starting to become less of a fan of the sticks on the controller, mostly the material it's made out of. The left stick seems to be permanently slippery, like it's coated in something. Even after I clean it with a variety of different wipes it still goes back to how it was after an hour or two of playing. I don't really have sweaty hands so I dunno what's causing it to be this bad.
 

slapnuts

Junior Member
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.

May the Lord have mercy for your poor soul
 

leng jai

Member
Xbox One
Pros
1. Truly next gen system philosophy with slick, fast UI, voice and gesture commands and seamless integration of all sofa-based entertainment, Skype, fast switching, multi-tasking, snap mode has a thousand possibilities
2. Games launched instantly without disc switching due to installs
3. Add as much extra storage as desired through external HDD
4. Kinect 2.0 included – finally frees up developers to explore the tech and its possibilities for integration into core gaming, unnoticeable latency, provides high quality Skype camera, and will be great for UI and media control via voice command and gesture
5. Smart Glass can finally show its potential now it will be linked directly via Wi-Fi to the console (rather than the old SG to web, web to Xbox method that lagged a lot)
6. Controller looks amazing with “surround rumble” and every area subtly improved, and overhauled D-pad
7. GAMES – the launch window games for Xbox One contains loads of exclusive titles I’m actually interested in – Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4
8. General good track record with online services and reliable media and UI performance
9. Sharing family is an amazing feature. Really surprised me how generous the terms are.
10. Huge cloud advantage to 300,000 servers (I read somewhere Sony has access to 30,000?)
Cons
1. Refusal to allow self-publishing on Xbox One is a huge mistake in my mind, and will rob the platform of some of the most interesting games next gen. It’s a possible deal breaker for me.
2. 24 hour check in is an obvious and necessary way of protecting against piracy within a system where games are fully installed, instantly launched and sharable with friends digitally – BUT – lack of any fail-safes for times the internet goes is a major concern. Another possible deal breaker in my mind.
3. Slight lack of power over PS4 could become an issue later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Huge size of the console, obviously due to overheating paranoia, makes it less of an attractive proposition in my entertainment centre
5. Higher price over PS4
6. Used game restrictions only bother me in that it seems to favour big businesses like GAME and Gamestop. Will my local games shop be allowed to sell on Xbox One games? I don’t patronise the used game industry personally as I think it is choking the real games making industry, but I don’t like these big-corporate favouring policies.
7. Fear over what could happen at the end of the generation. While it is more logical to think that they’d just run an update that removed the online check, there is the spectre of risk that all your paid-for games could become unplayable.

PS4
Pros
1. No worries or hassles about online requirements, used games, long term ownership
2. £80 cheaper than Xbox One
3. Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games
4. Lots of quality first party studios such as Naughty Dog promise some special next gen experiences
5. Much improved control pad over the DS, looks actually usable
6. Touch pad should help with UI/media/web aps control
7. Much smaller box, more discreet in entertainment centre
Cons
1. Lack of next-gen vision, still relying on disc swapping (or going digital download wholesale, which I will if I go PS4 as I hate disc swapping), UI smoothness and usability still and unknown quantity, media functionality undetailed and general historical poor form on these fronts (even as recently as the Vita) do not bode well for a slick, usable ecosystem
2. General lack of reliability when it comes to online services and updates – this morning it was announced that the latest PS3 firmware was bricking some PS3s. Seven years into this console and five months away from the next this sets off serious alarm bells for me as to Sony’s competence in this area.
3. Much less servers to rely on for cloud functionality
4. Throwing their one innovation under the bus to score cheap points. They drop the Eye so they can be £80 rather than £20 cheaper than Xbxo and instantly make it an irrelevance. Developers won’t support it if they don’t know every console has it.
5. Small box with little ventilation makes me think this will either be a) a noisy system with powerful fans or b) prone to overheating
6. Lack of launch window exclusive games that really appeal. Only SecondSon and The Order: 1886 really appeal to me and it's a bit depressing that the two launch titles I would likely buy – Watchdogs and FIFA 14 – would both be on Xbox One as well.
7. Lack of support for external harddrives. No matter how much Sony fan boys may insist on it – the ability to replace the harddrive is not a better feature. In an ideal world I’d want both features, but just being able to replace the harddrive means you are paying for something you will eventually dispose of. If I want 2tb+ on day one, for Xbox One I add an external and then have 2.5tb, nothing wasted. On PS4 I replace the internal harddrive with a 2tb model and then I have basically paid for a 500gb harddrive I have no further use for. If I do it further down the road I have to go through the laborious process of transferring data over, whereas with Xbox One I simply add more, keeping everything where it is on the internal one. Sorry Sony fanboys, this is a worse situation to be.

So in all, for me, Xbox One is the more exciting system with slick and usable services and UI and (so far) the better games – but has some deal-breaking drawbacks. PS4 is the safer and risk-free console with great promise for the future but at present is underwhelming, and has a high risk of having poorly implemented services and UI.


It’s still the PS4 for me at current, but with a few U-turns in some areas of contention, Xbox One could very much be back in contention.

Tries to be subtle - fails miserably.
 

Mask

Member
I've been playing a lot of PS4, mostly AC4, and having almost every game in 1080p after 7 years of 720p is fantastic!

Now we just need some more games. I have Lego Marvel, AC4, and I have Injustice and NFS Rivals on their way.
 

nib95

Banned
I like how he says

"Slight power advantage could allow some unique experiences later in the generation, and could lead to superior PS4 versions of cross platform games"

Firstly, as if the power difference is only slight, secondly, as if there hasn't already been major differences between multplatform games on these two consoles. 720p vs 1080p, 900p vs 1080p, better AA and a better frame rate etc. The differences in several games have already been a lot bigger than those we could have expected last gen.
 
What's the deal with the Italian Stallion's post. It reads like a hilariously out of date astroturfer/pr mouth piece of "fair" competitive "facts". Or maybe that's the point, and he's just being funny about all those things that were said on and off before the systems were launched while Microsoft was having an identity crisis with the One.
 

subrock

Member
Just wanted to share that I order a "new year edition" PS4 on Amazon that was supposed to ship on Jan 15th and I got a shipping notice today. I'll be jumping in in a few days it seems. Gonna be a fun christmas.
 
so no one knows how to re-download DLC? Trying to get my AC4 DLC re-downloaded, mainly the Aveline mission. When you go to library it says I have 5 add-ons for AC4, but when you select them under "my add-ons" it says "This cannot be selected at this time."
 

Replicant

Member
so no one knows how to re-download DLC? Trying to get my AC4 DLC re-downloaded, mainly the Aveline mission. When you go to library it says I have 5 add-ons for AC4, but when you select them under "my add-ons" it says "This cannot be selected at this time."

This is really annoying and in the future Sony should allow us to do manual update. But IIRC, you have to turn on auto-update then go to notifications > download and you should see the add-ons in there.
 

Satchel

Banned
I caved.

Kept and set up my PS4. So hot. Want touch the heiny.

The analog rubber looks slightly different to the others I've seen. Mine is made in China though :(
 

Tunesmith

formerly "chigiri"
I didn't write it someone else did

So you're basically lying by regurgitating someone else's nonsense.

Googling the first point in his post shows its regurgitated word for word on an enormous amount of sites/FAQs and forums dating back to July...

Still possible he's the author of all of them though! Dedication if that's the case, nevertheless what was the point of posting that here?

Google query
 
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