The biggest downfall of the xbo has got be the price. People are seeing a cheaper console with ps4 and keep hearing rumblings about ps4 being the more powerful console.
Microsoft needs to do a very smart price drop here. Either stick to the kinect and offer xbo at 399.99 or cut it and potentially go for 299.99.
Maybe the latter is being a bit drastic but the price needs to be on par with ps4 kinect or no kinect.
Is it possible that sony announced early because they are confident that with the Japanese launch it will bring it up to 6 million? Then they will announce they have reached 6 million around the launch to create more positive pr for sony and doom for xbox.
pretty crazy how you cant buy it online...
pretty crazy how you cant buy it online...
pretty crazy how you cant buy it online...
The day you can reliably order a PS4 at any time via several major web stores is the day I believe PS4 isn't supply constrained anymore.
I wonder how long Sony can keep this momentum up.
I wonder how many Xbones were returned in January, a la the Wii U. Wii U numbers actually increased in February due to January being depressed by failed scalper returns. If the same happened for Xbone, its numbers could improve for February.
People are really overstating how bad the January numbers were. They were mediocre, not bad. A price drop and some software is all XBO needs and it will start to do well.
You want to know how bad the numbers really was?
360 outsold the PS3 in NA almost two to one. Now the PS4 is outselling the XBO in NA almost 2 to 1. For a console that is readily available, this is bad, not mediocre, but bad. I will agree the dust has not settled yet. The 360 had outsold the PS3 by 6-8 million at one point, now the PS3 is on top. All it takes is some great games. MS certainly has the pocketbook to bankroll some great games.
I don't know. A new $60 IP on two platforms with a lot of choices versus a new $60 on a platform with hardly any choice.
You want to know how bad the numbers really was?
360 outsold the PS3 in NA almost two to one. Now the PS4 is outselling the XBO in NA almost 2 to 1. For a console that is readily available, this is bad, not mediocre, but bad. I will agree the dust has not settled yet. The 360 had outsold the PS3 by 6-8 million at one point, now the PS3 is on top. All it takes is some great games. MS certainly has the pocketbook to bankroll some great games.
I still got texts on Craigslist, it's crazy.
I think that even this projection is too optimistic after the January numbers.
Feb will probably be worse than Jan for XBO (~100K) and TF will push this up no higher than x2 (~200K) and then April will probably be even worse than February.
We'll see. Don't forget that each month XBO will be hit by a new "720p vs 1080p" type of news which won't go unnoticed. Most of people buys these machines to play multiplatform releases and not Titanfall. This is the reason why 360 has done so great in NA.
The entire "If you ain't first, you're last!" stance here is ridiculous. I'm sure Microsoft would hope that the sales would be higher but the way people are talking about the system's fate is beyond premature. Even a single enough below 100k isn't the end of a console.
Did you sell a PS4 on Craigslist?
I sold like 15 so far.
Kudos Sony, for making a console for what it's original purpose was for. GAMES!
NOT Skype NOT Apps NOT TV NOT EVERYTHING that doesn't do GAMES! M$!
Kudos Sony, for making a console for what it's original purpose was for. GAMES!
NOT Skype NOT Apps NOT TV NOT EVERYTHING that doesn't do GAMES! M$!
With Japan coming into the mix, PS4 will probably be selling around 750-1M per month from here on out until the demand dies down. 300K NA, 300K EU, 100K Asia/Emerging Markets, 100K Japan (post launch). Pretty close to their production capacity.
It's essentially a two horse race so that would hold true.My point is more that 140k in January with no major software or price drops isn't that bad, not comparative sales. Whatever the PS4 did relative to it is irrelevant.
The entire "If you ain't first, you're last!" stance here is ridiculous. I'm sure Microsoft would hope that the sales would be higher but the way people are talking about the system's fate is beyond premature. Even a single enough below 100k isn't the end of a console.
That's a very impressive number. I keep wondering though, what games are all these people buying? I bought mine day one because I'm a huge BF nut but other than that the lineup of games has been horrible so far.
With Japan coming into the mix, PS4 will probably be selling around 750-1M per month from here on out until the demand dies down. 300K NA, 300K EU, 100K Asia/Emerging Markets, 100K Japan (post launch). Pretty close to their production capacity.
Obviously it will slow down as we approach summer, maybe down to 500K monthly sales, but then increase dramatically at the end of the year. If Sony can continue to sell 150-200+K in the months of May and June, I think that'll be pretty solid. They will need to increase their production capacity for the fall - Destiny could be a huge next-gen seller.
Contrast that with the XB1, where they're selling only 150K in their strongest market. Things aren't looking good at all. They probably only have a global sell through of 300K monthly, if that. PS4 is probably selling close to 3X what the XBO is globally at this point.
Not really much Microsoft can do about it either. Microsoft did a lot of things right last-gen, and did them early, while having an advantage of Sony dropping the ball big time with the PS3. Those factors are no longer in their favor. Cutting the price alongside Kinect will help in the US in particular, but I still don't see it outselling the PS4 if it's at the same price.
You really think the PS4 will sell 100k a month post launch?
My question is: If MS price cuts the XBO, and Sony follows suit, so early in the generation, does that negatively affect the console market?
In my mind, its cutting your life short for a momentary power boost, DBZ style. If MS cuts XBO's price now, doesn't that mean you have a shorter console lifecycle?
20-25K per week isn't too high. PS3 was selling around that for a while. I'm still holding on to some level of hope that there's at least some level of demand for home consoles in the region.
You cold be right though, and maybe it will initially start out at 60-70K monthly after the initial launch has died down.
Be careful abbreviating Microsoft like that. It could get you banned, me thinks.
20-25k a week, after the launch hype had died, is pretty standard for a system within specific price brackets, or that has a steady influx of Japanese oriented software.
The PS4 has neither. I mean, I could be wrong, but I think it's not so much that the Wii U is dying as much as it is the entire home console market is.
there's literally nothing after launch periodDoesn't PS4 have some decent titles like Yakuza and MGS:GZ's? Not huge, but enough to get some early adopters on board gradually..
Doesn't PS4 have some decent titles like Yakuza and MGS:GZ's? Not huge, but enough to get some early adopters on board gradually.
I guess I'm not as concerned about the software library as others, because I think there's decent pent-up demand for a new PS, regardless of games.
PS4 probably won't really start doing better until the next Final Fantasy, though.
I think that even this projection is too optimistic after the January numbers.
Feb will probably be worse than Jan for XBO (~100K) and TF will push this up no higher than x2 (~200K) and then April will probably be even worse than February.
We'll see. Don't forget that each month XBO will be hit by a new "720p vs 1080p" type of news which won't go unnoticed. Most of people buys these machines to play multiplatform releases and not Titanfall. This is the reason why 360 has done so great in NA.
They're pretty big games, but they're not exclusives. Not only are they not as big as New Super Mario Bros. U, but they're also being released on a platform that costs more, and aren't exclusive titles.
That's kind of like saying that it doesn't matter that PS4 has battlefield 4 because it's not exclusive.
Xbox would have to be priced about $275 to match the price/performance of PS4 in terms of teraflops. PS4 at $400 is $217 per TF, and Xbox at $500 is $390 per TF, nearly double. Price/performance is a big reason why PS4 is selling so well.$299.99 price drop is not happening, people need to stop acting like it's a possibility. Has any console, EVER, had a $200 price drop after 4 months? Even if they release a different sku, they're not cutting both the Kinect and then another $100. Yeah they're not flying off the shelves but there's no reason to panic.
Battlefield is significantly bigger in the US than both Yakuza and MGS are in Japan.
As far as I remember both Yakuza and MGS generally sell in the 700-900k range. So assuming the userbases don't overlap at all, and that PS4 is the only platform anyone is ever going to buy them for you've got 1800k sales at most.
That would be a great launch, but it's far from realistic. Then we've also got to think about what's coming on the horizon, which is nothing immediately.