So Sony only shipped 250k consoles? That explains a lot, I don't think PS4 has been in stock anywhere anytime since launch, pretty much the only way to get one has been ordering from France/UK AFAIK. Curious why they did that, maybe they thought UK is the more important battlefield since Germany is already PS-biased?
I'm surprised about the Xbox numbers. I thought it would be worse.
Microsoft is soo doomed in Europe.
Wonder when 3rd party support dries up.
Honestly after all the bad press Microsoft got this year and the 11:1 preorder estimates that were coming in, this is actually much less of a gap than I would have thought. In fact it's really a victory for MS if you think about it, sure they still have some work to do but you can't count them out yet like some people were saying!
Wonder when 3rd party support dries up.
Not surprised, the stores I've been to mostly had normal stocks of XB1s (roughly the same numbers as the older consoles) but I've never seen a PS4 box in a store.
I'm pretty sure they'll never need to worry about that. It should be sufficiently easy/cheap to port from Xbone to PS4 (/vice versa), so even in the extremely unlikely case of say a 4:1 sales ratio I do think Xbone will get pretty much everything the PS4 gets (minus the Sony first/second party exclusives obviously). The issue for Microsoft is that this won't help them. Playstation has the better brand, the more powerful hardware and it's cheaper.
Microsoft needs to find sth. Kinect related that makes people buy tons of consoles.
Breaking news, porting from PS4 to XB1 is trivial. Porting from an OpenGL based language to DirectX based is trivial. Porting from 1.8Tflop GPU to 1.3Tflop GPU is trivial.
And last but certainly by no means least, Porting from 5-6GB of Ram at 176gb/s to 5GB of ram at 68GB/s and a 32mb Esram Cache is trivial.
Seriously, it's not trivial, as well as porting the game, there are additional costs such as licensing, QC,QA, Servers, Legal costs, Boxart, Liasons. None of these costs have been reduced by the hardware being more alike.
Ubisoft claim it costs around $1.3million for a WiiU port and I have no reason to question that number is similar for XB1:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...says-wii-u-ports-costing-under-USD1-3-million
To quote IGN:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2006/05/06/the-economics-of-game-publishing
With simple Maths:
1.3million/16 = 81250 units.
So to recoup the initial investment they would need to sell 80k+ on XB1. As well as any additional Costs, so Does it seem likely to you that PES would be profitable on XB1?
Considering that PES is a PS associated Franchise and Sales are heavily skewed away from the US, it seems to me that PES would likely just about Break even on XB1 and in fact drag down the ROI.
What was the 360/PS3 ratio split?
The way things are looking at the moment, it seems there isn't any part of anywhere that Xbox One has done better. It's all good though, because it heats up competition and it'll be interesting to see how Microsoft reacts. Will it be short-term moneyhats, long-term creative investment or both?
Oceania, the continent. Do not mistake a country for a continent.
France?
Does anyone have the list of countries the PS4 has launched in to date? I know it's 53 countries but damn if I can find a list
If ea would have stayed a Nintendo partner or partnered with Sony Xbox would be dead. I hate EA now.I wonder at what point EA starts realizing they've put their eggs in the wrong basket altogether. Part of me wishes Sony flat-out denies EA's Titanfall sequel, although I'm sure that'll never happen.
Oceania, the continent. Do not mistake a country for a continent.
Oceania, the continent. Do not mistake a country for a continent.
There was one floating around in the closed 4.2million thread.
I wonder at what point EA starts realizing they've put their eggs in the wrong basket altogether. Part of me wishes Sony flat-out denies EA's Titanfall sequel, although I'm sure that'll never happen.
I have yet to see a single PS4 unit available in store in Germany. Xbox One? Plenty.
I have yet to see a single PS4 unit available in store in Germany. Xbox One? Plenty.
Yeah, I've seen XBO's in multiple MediaMarkt and Real stores. No PS4 so far.
A small part of the 100k Xbox One are Tier 2 Dutch/Belgium people importing from Germany.
Not surprising, seeing just how prized privacy is in Germany. That Kinect is going to hurt the Xbox One in that country.
I don't know anyone here in austria that is interested in xbones and of course no one would import them. They are piled up to the ceiling in every store here!and austria
This is why I question Sony's commitment to an Asian launch in February. The need for more systems is in U.S. and Europe.
Sony wins Asia by default.
They should wait till at least summer for the Asian launch.
I don't know anyone here in austria that is interested in xbones and of course no one would import them. They are piled up to the ceiling in every store here!
They've already launched in practically every asian country.
I wonder at what point EA starts realizing they've put their eggs in the wrong basket altogether. Part of me wishes Sony flat-out denies EA's Titanfall sequel, although I'm sure that'll never happen.
I don't know anyone here in austria that is interested in xbones and of course no one would import them. They are piled up to the ceiling in every store here!
There's people who are going to buy Xbone no matter what and then there's PS4 which everyone wants to buy and is heavily supply constrained. They just couldn't ship more of those.Surprised it's only a 2,5:1 ratio, there's so much negative mindshare surrounding Microsoft, the console, the early announcements, everything I assumed it would bomb even harder.
Even your link calls it a region. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ContinentOceania, the continent. Do not mistake a country for a continent.