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PS5 Outsells NES Lifetime Sales

PUNKem733

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I understand gaming was a more niche thing back then, and REALLY looked down upon as kids shit, but I'm still amazed hearing how the NES only sold like 61 million. I was around 9 when I got one in 1986 or 87, and seeing how NES was synonymous with toys/gaming, I always expect sale numbers around 100-120 million. Find it strange when I realize it's like half that. NES was the THING to get any kid in the mid 80's.
 

SweetTooth

Gold Member
The NES is so much better it's not even funny though. What a timeless library of gaming masterpieces.

Rose Colored Glasses Bias GIF
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Sooooooo...Apply same logic to PS2 vs Switch 🤣
Honestly, yeah.

It's like saying "The Toyota Prius has outsold the Ford Model T". Like - cool feat, but comparing car markets of 1927 and 2027 seems like a weird flex.
 
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AngelMuffin

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World population in 1985: 4.8 billion
World population in 2024: 8.1 billion

Comparing a modern game console's lifetime sales to that of one sold when the world's population was nearly half feels... weird. Like, a higher percentage of people on the planet owned a NES than currently own a PS5.

But congrats Sony, I guess.
Yeah, it’s kinda nonsense. Gamers have increased exponentially over the last 40 years. The NES was mainly for kids, gaming now is mostly adults that grew up on the NES.
 
World population in 1985: 4.8 billion
World population in 2024: 8.1 billion

Comparing a modern game console's lifetime sales to that of one sold when the world's population was nearly half feels... weird. Like, a higher percentage of people on the planet owned a NES than currently own a PS5.

But congrats Sony, I guess.

Yes I bring up population regularly in many sales discussions. It’s a very valid point. There’s just more people now.

The other part of this is that over the last 40 years many other parts of the world have become more affluent and their populations now have more free time and money to buy these kinds of luxury items.
 
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I am talking about the dominance, price and number of units doesnt matter that much, sure they are important numbers and sure they represent earning lot of money and that is the most important for a company but for the history of this industry the most popular system is the most dominant, that is why there is not much relevance or importance for threads about PS5 surpassing sega master system sales numbers or colecovision sales, you remember threads about t? I dont, its the NES you want to compare to, because people want to measure with a legendary system, but that system is legendary for the popularity/dominance for the people/industry at the time, not for the money it gave to the developers with its price and number of units

It's not me bringing up the comparison. I'm just responding to the thread of conversation.
 
World population in 1985: 4.8 billion
World population in 2024: 8.1 billion

Comparing a modern game console's lifetime sales to that of one sold when the world's population was nearly half feels... weird. Like, a higher percentage of people on the planet owned a NES than currently own a PS5.

But congrats Sony, I guess.
Damn, Series performance is even more pathetic when you put it that way.

And if you're a Nintendo fan, the Switch possibly not beating the PS2, even with billions more on the planet. Also pathetic.
 
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Hoddi

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World population in 1985: 4.8 billion
World population in 2024: 8.1 billion

Comparing a modern game console's lifetime sales to that of one sold when the world's population was nearly half feels... weird. Like, a higher percentage of people on the planet owned a NES than currently own a PS5.

But congrats Sony, I guess.
The global middle class (ie people who buy consoles) ballooned from ~500m in 2000 to ~1.7b in 2021. It's often made me wonder if it isn't a reason that hardware is getting more expensive since there's more competition for it.

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Cakeboxer

Gold Member
Why are we complaining about comparisons or talking about world population? It's just something that happened and that's it.
For the same reason this thread has 3 pages: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...ranchises-that-have-earned-1-billion.1676638/

Actually both are simple informations, but people like badmouthing and downplaying things. Wait till Astro Bots becomes GOTY.
- Sony bias
- Weakest year in gaming history, in the country of the blind the one-eyed man is king
- Astro Bots design suck,
- They have no charisma
- Mario is still better,
- Nintendo ripoff
 
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midnightAI

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midnightAI

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Yeah, it’s kinda nonsense. Gamers have increased exponentially over the last 40 years. The NES was mainly for kids, gaming now is mostly adults that grew up on the NES.
I thought console gaming was dying though?

Vast majority of gamers are on mobile and PC, home console figures have remained roughly the same for a long time now.

This is a footnote, nothing more, the point is, PS5 sales are doing well, that's all.
 
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Yeah, it’s kinda nonsense. Gamers have increased exponentially over the last 40 years. The NES was mainly for kids, gaming now is mostly adults that grew up on the NES.

And there’s so many great older consoles and games that many people are sticking to playing those.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
All Playstation Home consoles have outsold Nintendo Home Consoles. Except PS3 didnt outsell Wii.

Actually PlayStation's worse selling Home Console, PS3 outsold all other Xbox and Nintendo home consoles except Wii
 

Naked Lunch

Member
Didn't even know NES having better versions of games was a thing lol
The NES version is of Bionic Commando actually a completely different game from the arcade version. The NES game is truly great - for real.
The NES version did get remastered years later as Bionic Commando Re-Armed 1 - but its stuck on PS3 and Xbox 360. Never got backwards compat support.

Theres plenty of other examples too of the NES version being better (or a completely different) game.
Strider and Contra jump to mind.
 
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Mayar

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I'm 40+ and I lived through those times. My only complaint in all these calculations is not the number of people, frankly speaking it doesn't matter at all. Since consoles were always bought in regions of the world where the population did not change so significantly, the main population growth is shown by countries in Africa, Asia (India). In the rest of the world we have long been in a state of Birth Rate equal to Death Rate and this is in the best case, usually Birth Rate is significantly lower than Death Rate.

The problem with all these calculations is consumer power then and now. I still remember how I was given my first NES for my birthday, and I remember that my father put it off for a long time and I don’t remember the exact cost of the console, but something around $170 (that’s about $500 now, taking inflation into account) was a lot of money at that time, and the Mario cartridge that was included was my only cartridge for a very long time, and I don’t remember the exact price of the cartridges, but they were around $50 each and $55 for Nintendo hits (Mario 3). Most of the games that I had and played, I either swapped with friends or rented, the question of buying games in the family was never even raised, only as a gift for very big holidays. To say that a NES in the 90s was a great luxury is to say nothing, and not everyone could afford it. That's why NES sales are so impressive.

It's not that consumer power has grown very much now, but the market has become much more flexible, and a much larger percentage of people are buying consoles now. Nowadays, buying a console is a fairly common event, they are not that difficult to buy. Games are expensive at first, but their price drops rapidly, and then drops to ridiculous levels due to endless sales.
 

Seider

Member
More people is going to play on Playstation 5 that did on NES.

Thats the important thing about all this.
 

Impotaku

Member
Waiting to see what records it breaks next, OMG it totally sold more than. (checks notes) Tiger game com. Wooo killer console confirmed LOL. It's very telling that a 40 year old system was chosen and not xbox or switch.
 

TheGrat1

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World population in 1985: 4.8 billion
World population in 2024: 8.1 billion

Comparing a modern game console's lifetime sales to that of one sold when the world's population was nearly half feels... weird. Like, a higher percentage of people on the planet owned a NES than currently own a PS5.

But congrats Sony, I guess.
Uh, the Famicom did not reach it's lifetime sales total in 1985, it had been on the market for 2 years at that point. Not sure why you picked that year. Famicom was in production for 12 years and PS5 surpassed that in just 4, with far stiffer competition as well from Xbox, it's own predecessor, PC gaming and mobile. It has also outsold the One's lifetime sales, a far more recent console which coincidentally failed to outsell the Famicom.

Also, world population increasing is no guarantee of anything. Nintendo's next 3 home consoles would go on to not only fail to outsell the NES but each would sell less than their predecessor. :messenger_grimmacing_
 

Robb

Gold Member
Waiting to see what records it breaks next, OMG it totally sold more than. (checks notes) Tiger game com. Wooo killer console confirmed LOL. It's very telling that a 40 year old system was chosen and not xbox or switch.
It wasn’t chosen, it just happened to be next in line as Ps5 is working its way up the best selling systems list.

It’s the same thing with every console, every gen. We’ll get another article once it beats 3DS, then GameBoy etc.

Also, world population increasing is no guarantee of anything. Nintendo's next 3 home consoles would go on to not only fail to outsell the NES but each would sell less than their predecessor. :messenger_grimmacing_
Yeah, makes zero sense to have that line of thinking considering the best selling console of all time is, still, Ps2.

As if Ps5 beating Ps2 wouldn’t be absolutely incredible and huge news. Waaaay more impressive than beating the more recent Ps4.
 
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Impotaku

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Leaving your feelings aside you know that statement is factual, supported with numbers.
Comparing two markets 40 years apart that were two totally different population densities is laughable. It's hardly something super mpressive when there's way more people in the world and gaming is now super mainstream not niche hobby like it was back in the 80's. But i get it sonybros deperately need a win so congrats i guess.
 
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AngelMuffin

Member
I thought console gaming was dying though?

Vast majority of gamers are on mobile and PC, home console figures have remained roughly the same for a long time now.

This is a footnote, nothing more, the point is, PS5 sales are doing well, that's all.
I don’t disagree that the PS5 is selling well. I just think it’s silly to celebrate that it passed the NES in lifetime sales.

IDK about consoles dying. The Switch is about to become the best selling console of all time (yes, I get that it’s a hybrid), and the PS5 has sold really well without any real price drops. The PS4 was $299 at this point in its lifecycle which of course boosted sales. I think once the digital PS5 hits $299, it will really start to surge.
 
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TheGrat1

Member
I'm 40+ and I lived through those times. My only complaint in all these calculations is not the number of people, frankly speaking it doesn't matter at all. Since consoles were always bought in regions of the world where the population did not change so significantly, the main population growth is shown by countries in Africa, Asia (India). In the rest of the world we have long been in a state of Birth Rate equal to Death Rate and this is in the best case, usually Birth Rate is significantly lower than Death Rate.

The problem with all these calculations is consumer power then and now. I still remember how I was given my first NES for my birthday, and I remember that my father put it off for a long time and I don’t remember the exact cost of the console, but something around $170 (that’s about $500 now, taking inflation into account) was a lot of money at that time, and the Mario cartridge that was included was my only cartridge for a very long time, and I don’t remember the exact price of the cartridges, but they were around $50 each and $55 for Nintendo hits (Mario 3). Most of the games that I had and played, I either swapped with friends or rented, the question of buying games in the family was never even raised, only as a gift for very big holidays. To say that a NES in the 90s was a great luxury is to say nothing, and not everyone could afford it. That's why NES sales are so impressive.

It's not that consumer power has grown very much now, but the market has become much more flexible, and a much larger percentage of people are buying consoles now. Nowadays, buying a console is a fairly common event, they are not that difficult to buy. Games are expensive at first, but their price drops rapidly, and then drops to ridiculous levels due to endless sales.
Your post just reminded me of this song.

"Couldn't get Street Fighter it was 70 bucks" :messenger_grinning_squinting:
 

AngelMuffin

Member
And there’s so many great older consoles and games that many people are sticking to playing those.
Yep, me included. Don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying Silent Hill 2 remake and am looking forward to some of next year’s releases, but I’m probably playing older consoles (on a CRT) just as much if not more than current gen.
 
So much butthurt in just one thread. We always get these reports when a console passes another on the top selling consoles. Why bitch about it now? My guess is salty Xbox fans mad that their system won't ever hit this milestone. And maybe some Nintendo fans worried about the future sales of Switch 2.
 
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cireza

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World population in 1985: 4.8 billion
World population in 2024: 8.1 billion

Comparing a modern game console's lifetime sales to that of one sold when the world's population was nearly half feels... weird. Like, a higher percentage of people on the planet owned a NES than currently own a PS5.

But congrats Sony, I guess.
Especially when looking at the output in games...
 

Lambogenie

Member
So much butthurt in just one thread. We always get these reports when a console passes another on the top selling consoles. Why bitch about it now? My guess is salty Xbox fans mad that their system won't ever hit this milestone. And maybe some Nintendo fans worried about the future sales of Switch 2.
That latter point is more valid! The fact a system hasn't sold as much despite bugger market, says many, many things. Passing a decades old thing is not an achievement.
 
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