Dreamgazer
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Oozinator said:
He uses his credit card. Which normally wouldn't pull funds from your bank account and has a limit + its own security measures.
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He uses his credit card. Which normally wouldn't pull funds from your bank account and has a limit + its own security measures.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Dreamgazer said:
I haven't changed anything yet myself, I'll just check in on my debit card every now and then and see how it goes.
I've had money taken from past acc's fraudulently before and the bank has refunded me anyway.
<dunks bourbon in tea>
Aselith said:
You seem to make alot of bold statements but it is alot of pissing in the wind.
Sony stockholders are used to weathering storms, and they will deal with this.
As I said previously, this is no BP situation and BP is doing just fine.
You say that Live (or online service X) is clearly more secure? Is it or it that it has not been a target of someone as determined yet?
There is a reason that network security is huge these days.
Every online service out there will be looking very closely at their networks in the coming weeks.
TheExecutive
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Someone a few pages back said they had some fraudulent charges from portugal. However, who knows if that is a coincidence or not.KingK said:
Igor Antunov
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FINALBOSS said:
robotzombie
Member
Haha thanks guys, you actually did make me feel better
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
robotzombie said:
-you should only change the passwords that are the same as your PSN password. i personally would advise that on those accounts that share the same password as PSN that you also change the security questions, if any. that way if the hacker(s) know(s) your mom's maiden name now, you can change it to childhood best friend or whatever.
-i wouldn't go overboard on checking your bank account. it usually takes a few days for a charge to go in, and finish processing, so you'll be able to spot something and catch it if it were to come down to that. make sure to contact sony FIRST if a fraudulent charge comes up so that you can put your official "i think mine was compromised" statement in with them. otherwise your bank will take all the action first and block sony. this happened to me a while back when someone got into my paypal and sent themselves a bunch of money. paypal got blocked from investigating and tracking down the hacker because my bank acted first and fucked up the trail he/she left behind. (if any)
everything will work out man. worrying solves nothing. trust me, i have severe anxiety problems. think of the worst that could happen. (you dying) now think of how ridiculous it is that this whole debacle could somehow physically kill you. that's what i do to make myself feel better.
Neuromancer
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Where do you live? I can probably spoon you if it's not too far.robotzombie said:
TheExecutive
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You're most likely right and right now Sony is praying that you are...FINALBOSS said:
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Oozinator said:
That's a very good question ;-)
spindashing
Banned
Yeah, I'm done with this thread until later today.
Big day tomorrow. Sleep time. I hope you enjoyed my Sonic collection.
Sweet dreams. I hope all is resolved.
Big day tomorrow. Sleep time. I hope you enjoyed my Sonic collection.
Sweet dreams. I hope all is resolved.
The hacking could also be used to blackmail people. Let's say someone had been watching porn on their PS3 through optical media, or streaming from PS3 Server. I'm sure Sony logs those kinda things, for marketing purposes, etc. Hackers/blackmailers can make a fortune on such things.
RadioHeadAche
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After that whole Gizmodo business a while back, I changed all my passwords so that each is unique. Unless I'm forgetting something, my PSN password was for that account only. I don't think I ever used it for anything else.
Should I worry about entering passwords using the PS3 web browser?
Should I worry about entering passwords using the PS3 web browser?
FINALBOSS said:
Make no mistake. Sony will be negatively impacted on all front.
But if they continue to deliver quality stuff, then some people may continue to do business with them. I will continue to shop on PSN because of LBP2, Uncharted, KillZone, PixelJunk, ThatGameCompany, Hulu Plus, etc...
But their PSN needs a hefty beef up in every way to counter the negative tide. They can't be just good enough, they may have to shine. Playstation Suite will bring an interesting PSN client side angle, Steam will also bring an interesting partnership angle, but the actual server applications and operation need to impress or be impeccable.
It's a tall order because I think the hackers will attack Sony again. I hope the authorities are more ready this time.
Absoludacrous
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FINALBOSS said:
Your end of the spectrum is just as crazy as the other side.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
you shouldnt worry too much, credit card companies are usually aware of stuff like this happening, and if there is a possibility of all the cc numbers being compromised, they'll just reissue credit/debit cards.
unfortunately identity theft happens more often than you think and even if you dont think you've been compromised, you may have already been without actually knowing.
i know my information has probably been compromised as a result of this and a couple of other events in the past. so
unfortunately identity theft happens more often than you think and even if you dont think you've been compromised, you may have already been without actually knowing.
i know my information has probably been compromised as a result of this and a couple of other events in the past. so
robotzombie
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Commanche Raisin Toast said:-you should only change the passwords that are the same as your PSN password. i personally would advise that on those accounts that share the same password as PSN that you also change the security questions, if any. that way if the hacker(s) know(s) your mom's maiden name now, you can change it to childhood best friend or whatever.
-i wouldn't go overboard on checking your bank account. it usually takes a few days for a charge to go in, and finish processing, so you'll be able to spot something and catch it if it were to come down to that. make sure to contact sony FIRST if a fraudulent charge comes up so that you can put your official "i think mine was compromised" statement in with them. otherwise your bank will take all the action first and block sony. this happened to me a while back when someone got into my paypal and sent themselves a bunch of money. paypal got blocked from investigating and tracking down the hacker because my bank acted first and fucked up the trail he/she left behind. (if any)
everything will work out man. worrying solves nothing. trust me, i have severe anxiety problems. think of the worst that could happen. (you dying) now think of how ridiculous it is that this whole debacle could somehow physically kill you. that's what i do to make myself feel better.
Thanks, sincerely, yeah anxiety is an annoying beast
Here's a Chris Hansen special about identity theft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58_y30O1fR4
Pretty scary stuff. According to the special, people sell personal info on IRC chat for miniscule amounts of money. In the special it ended up being Nigerians. What they do is form a fake online romantic relationship with a lonely American, then buy stuff online with the stolen CC info and have it sent to the American, then the American sends the stuff to Nigeria. All the while the patsy has no idea they're taking part in identity theft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58_y30O1fR4
Pretty scary stuff. According to the special, people sell personal info on IRC chat for miniscule amounts of money. In the special it ended up being Nigerians. What they do is form a fake online romantic relationship with a lonely American, then buy stuff online with the stolen CC info and have it sent to the American, then the American sends the stuff to Nigeria. All the while the patsy has no idea they're taking part in identity theft.
Plasmid said:
Scan your email box for messages from
DoNotReply@ac.playstation.net
In the mails they mention the card you used to buy stuff.
dark_chris
Member
Hmm, guess I;ll get a new credit card. Better safe than sorry right?
Hex said:
It's worse than BP if people start getting fraudulent charges on their cards. If anything trumps destroying the environment, it's fucking with peoples money.
As for the thing about Live, it doesn't matter straight up. Perception is king and Live will be perceived as more secure because of this and justly so. Once they get hacked you can come back and call me an asshole.
And yes there is a reason network security is huge today...to prevent things like this. There's also a reason that getting hacked on such a colossal scale is huge these days.
Every online service will be looking hard at their online security because they don't want to get hit with the negative PR and loss of consumer confidence that Sony will get from this.
I'm sure the stockholders will just consider this minor. After all, why would people in a financial market care about financially related security issues?
Spectral Glider
Member
OK, here's what's pissing me off. I have no idea what my PSN password is, still, I want to now change my Amazon password just to be safe. But every time I try to get into amazon's account settings, it freezes up and fucks up my whole net connection along with it. Not sure if it's related or how, just very annoying and paranoia inducing.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
Vamphuntr said:
Maybe he means 'Black Male' porn?
Jinfash
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Good news everyone!
Thanks to the fact that I shared my account with a friend back in December (which prompted me to remove my CC numbers, btw) I have now confirmed that I've also changed my password to a generic one ("password") and haven't changed it ever since. So all that is left to do is change my PSN password as soon as the service is up. I won't even have to go to on a password-changing spree like I when the Gawker database was hacked. I'm glad I dodged this bullet.
See, game sharing isn't so bad after all.
Thanks to the fact that I shared my account with a friend back in December (which prompted me to remove my CC numbers, btw) I have now confirmed that I've also changed my password to a generic one ("password") and haven't changed it ever since. So all that is left to do is change my PSN password as soon as the service is up. I won't even have to go to on a password-changing spree like I when the Gawker database was hacked. I'm glad I dodged this bullet.
See, game sharing isn't so bad after all.
Neuromancer
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Sounded completely plausible to me.Wario64 said:
If my wife finds out I was using the browser to look at porn, I'm done for!
Professor Beef
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Bring it on.lol51 said:
Oh, its not unheard of. They threaten to contact your wife or your workplace. Very old trick.Vamphuntr said:
A whole other aspect, is the privacy issue. Loads of people have unlisted/hidden private home-address, for varying reasons. I could see some heavy lawsuits coming along, if this information leaked.
Dreamgazer
Member
Jinfash said:
Oh nice.
Hey, you mind telling me the email you use for PSN? I just want to email you some stuff
Commanche Raisin Toast
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robotzombie said:
sure is. dissolved 2 of my past relationships. i have no idea why my current girlfriend puts up with me, but she does. it's also hard to quit smoking if you have a lot of anxiety. i only resort to them if i am having an attack or something. so maybe one or two a month over the last 9 months.
what im going to do is just sit tight, check the PS blog a few times a day and my bank account once a day (which i already do) and if sony comes back with a bad verdict on CC's then i'll go through the appropriate steps to protect myself. then when PSN is back up i imagine we'll have to reset passwords and security questions. it could be worse.
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