PSP RELEASE DATE!! (24th of march)

The great thing with save files on the PSP is that you can easily archive them on your PC, so you only need the save files for whatever games you're currently playing.

You know, I'm seriously thinking of selling my PSP on ebay for a little profit, just to get a NA one with Spiderman 2. But that will mean at least a month without a PSP.

As for the memory sticks, I gave up and just ordered a 512MB from a Canadian website. But since SanDisk is coming out with those colored sticks in March, it shouldn't be that hard to get a 1GB at launch.
 
Hollywood said:
The thing is, all worth is PERSONAL PREFERENCE. How do you think companies come to selecting a price? By looking at the demand and selecting a price for it. Everyone uses factors of demand to set a price, and demand is how much people are willing to pay for it. That is all, no more no less. It's all subjective. Your demand for the item may be, $500 ... meaning you would pay $500. Mine would probably be around $100 for this ... my mom's would be $0.00 ... and so on. Everyone has their own price. All demand is, is what its worth TO YOU.
You're not paying attention, Hollywood. You're mixing up the distinction between the two which I've already described. Subjective ends with what you think, your perceptions, your preferences. As soon as you start to consider and factor in the thoughts, perceptions and preferences of *others* (i.e. not you) you are beginning to take a more objective view of things. Look it up.
 
Miburou said:
The great thing with save files on the PSP is that you can easily archive them on your PC, so you only need the save files for whatever games you're currently playing.

You know, I'm seriously thinking of selling my PSP on ebay for a little profit, just to get a NA one with Spiderman 2. But that will mean at least a month without a PSP.

As for the memory sticks, I gave up and just ordered a 512MB from a Canadian website. But since SanDisk is coming out with those colored sticks in March, it shouldn't be that hard to get a 1GB at launch.
Yup that should work out nice.
 
It is a good idea including Spiderman 2 the movie on UMD. I applaud Sony for that. Though they better be careful that the UMD doesn't turn into betamax.
 
Deg said:
We'll see who is laughing. Its not insane value at the price. Its not value at all. You are paying a premium price. Maybe for some people here i guess $500 is starting to get expensive... It wont stay at this price for long. PSP SHOULD be kicking DS's arse through hell but it hasnt been able to so far. Overpricing it is maybe for the hype to increase its value and then knocking the price down again before or shortly after launch.
You know, I kinda share the same sentiment, but I don't know. Maybe it'll still sell. I think it's fucking insane to pay that kind of a price, but I also think the iPod is an overpriced piece of crap. Maybe if I rode a bike or walked more for my commute, I'd consider the PSP and iPod priced well. But just for one game, I'll be spending $300. For fuck's sake, that's just bananas. $300 is what I paid for my PS2, and what I'll pay for a PS3. It's not what I'll pay for what's basically a portable PS2. I really can't justify it. So much better stuff I can get for that kind of bread.

I'm annoyed. I've been thoroughly owned, but that's not what I'm annoyed about. I'm annoyed b/c I really wanted this thing. I figured the games were hot, and the device itself cool, but I place handheld gaming low on the priority scale. But I'm not bummed b/c it means I now have an extra $300 to put towards my suspension parts binge over the next couple months. :D Fuck you Sony. You almost had me. PEACE.
 
New CNN Money article seems to clear up a few details around launch game availability and pricing:

It seems to have achieved that goal. The company said 24 PSP games will launch in the first four weeks of availability. At present, it does not know how many will be available on day one.

"It's hard to tell at this point in time," said Hirai. "Even at our first-party studios we're putting the finishing touches on the games. I'd rather delay a game by a week or two then rush stuff out there."

PSP titles will typically retail for $39.99, though smaller titles will likely cost a bit less, which raises the question: Since the two systems are so similar in game graphics and performance, could the lower price of PSP games cannibalize sales of higher prices PS2 games?

More about the launch announcement here: http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/03/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/
 
kaching said:
Yes, communities such as this one, not just this one, which is a significant modification of your earlier position that put so much emphasis on GAF as the "opinion leader".

There was no modification; you're looking at two separate comments.

My "earlier position" referred to the GAF's ability to influence a North American/USA specific price point. There is no USA community both as broadly read and influential as GAF. (Sorry, IGN/Opa-Ages/et al.)

My later message discussed the earlier Japanese price point and a different set of communities that collectively influenced that decision.
 
J. Horwitz said:
My "earlier position" referred to the GAF's ability to influence a North American/USA specific price point. There is no USA community both as broadly read and influential as GAF. (Sorry, IGN/Opa-Ages/et al.)

Um...

What?

(Just in case: Mr. Fries, sir? That photoshop I made was just a joke. Really!)
 
J. Horwitz said:
There is no USA community both as broadly read and influential as GAF. (Sorry, IGN/Opa-Ages/et al.)

:lol :lol :lol

Opa-Ages? that's pretty funny. I sincerely, hope you included them as a joke. There are dozens of other community boards with substantially more "influence" than them.

GA is clearly the best board out there, IMO, but it's much more talking heads than being a "powerful influence" in the industry. We don't dictate anything, we're just pretty good at having decent conversations.
 
this thread is great!

on one side people bitching about a reasonable price ie the same as Japan.

on the other side people with PSPs thinking your all getting a fair deal.


I think i might side with the people with the PSPs here. Sony are not raping u. they will later release a single unit only sku at $199. As far as EB, Gamestop raping u, see them or go to fucking wal mart
 
kaching said:
You're not paying attention, Hollywood. You're mixing up the distinction between the two which I've already described. Subjective ends with what you think, your perceptions, your preferences. As soon as you start to consider and factor in the thoughts, perceptions and preferences of *others* (i.e. not you) you are beginning to take a more objective view of things. Look it up.

Well what I'm saying is everyone's own personal demand plays a role in determining the worth of the system. People are saying 'I don't see how you can say its not WORTH it at that price'. Well that in itself is subjective. Just because its worth a lot to some people doesn't make it worth it to all people. You could justify that everything sold on the market today is worth what it costs, because there's someone out there willing to pay for it. That doesn't make it objective. It's a collection of individuals own demand out there.
 
VictimOfGrief said:
Congratulations, I see you've made it to member. No one can throw that junior member tag in your face, and hey, you can create threads.

Now please, please try to contribute instead of witty one-line responses. Because frankly, your post to content ratio is lower than Matlock's, and that's saying something.
 
they are including a lot of things in the bundle that i'd like to have, such as a screen wiper and a case and a battery pack, but still i'd rather buy those on my own.
i'll wait for the base unit, this was a stupid move on sony's part, they should have had the value bundle and the unit by itself. meh.
 
How can you play your PSP (on the go) without a battery? And a battery was included even with the basic pack in Japan.
 
You know, regardless of our personal opinions, there's no denying that this batch of 1 million Value Packs are going to fly off the shelves. To a business like Sony, well, that's what matters.

The hype is going to be damn near tangible by the time advertising kicks in.
 
Miburou said:
How can you play your PSP without a battery?
wait it does not come with a battery? i thought this was an extra battery.
i dont know, i havent really followed this thing all that deeply. i assumed the box would include a battery like most other devices.
 
BuddyChrist83 said:
Congratulations, I see you've made it to member. No one can throw that junior member tag in your face.
Both of us are living testaments that it still could happen, again.
The biggest concern I have with the bundle is that I like to choose my case from a variety, so it stands out. A big part of the success with the iPod was the amount of accessories. I have the iBeams, iPoDonuts, a hard case, an iTrip, and a car charger.

It's not important to offer different colors, but offering customization is key. Sony seems to be neglecting that key factor. (Of course, the DS is, too, but I expect multi-colored DSs in a jiffy to spur sales. More likely than a price drop)
 
Sony could have buried, BURIED Nintendo with a $200 PSP. That would have been it. Sell your Nintendo systems its all over, etc etc.

As it is, they priced the thing JUST high enough to drive away the PSP-curious, while the DS seems much easier to swallow.

Nice work, Sony. Yes your system is gonna sell millions, but you're not gonna be market leader.
 
M3wThr33 said:
Both of us are living testaments that it still could happen, again.
The biggest concern I have with the bundle is that I like to choose my case from a variety, so it stands out. A big part of the success with the iPod was the amount of accessories. I have the iBeams, iPoDonuts, a hard case, an iTrip, and a car charger.

It's not important to offer different colors, but offering customization is key. Sony seems to be neglecting that key factor. (Of course, the DS is, too, but I expect multi-colored DSs in a jiffy to spur sales. More likely than a price drop)
The PSP has a lot of potential for customization, as the front case is pretty easy to swap. Not that it'll be any more popular than switching system shells, but, just noting.
 
You know, regardless of our personal opinions, there's no denying that this batch of 1 million Value Packs are going to fly off the shelves.
no doubt about that.

It comes with one battery.
right, and the value pack includes an extra one, yes? one battery would be good enough for me.
 
GDJustin said:
Sony could have buried, BURIED Nintendo with a $200 PSP. That would have been it. Sell your Nintendo systems its all over, etc etc.

As it is, they priced the thing JUST high enough to drive away the PSP-curious, while the DS seems much easier to swallow.

Nice work, Sony. Yes your system is gonna sell millions, but you're not gonna be market leader.

Take A, the cost of investment and B, the expected sales and C, the amount of customers disenchanted by the price. A times B time C equals X. If X is more than the cost of the price drop. . .

(Fight Club reference, not meant to be actual math)
 
right, and the value pack includes an extra one, yes? one battery would be good enough for me.


It comes with a single battery. Which you insert into your PSP to make it work. There is no second battery.
 
GDJustin said:
Sony could have buried, BURIED Nintendo with a $200 PSP. That would have been it. Sell your Nintendo systems its all over, etc etc.

As it is, they priced the thing JUST high enough to drive away the PSP-curious, while the DS seems much easier to swallow.

Nice work, Sony. Yes your system is gonna sell millions, but you're not gonna be market leader.

Justin,

Sorry to say this, but GOD YOU'RE ANNOYING LATELY.

Yesterday, you were saying that Sony was "barely" outselling the DS and that they would be lucky to overtake them in a year at best. Today you come in and say that Sony was on their way to have "buried, BURIED" Nintendo with a $200 PSP (which this technically is). I can't believe the double talk that's been coming out of your mouth lately.

Normally, it wouldn't bother me as we've got a ton of people on these boards that have system allegiances and it's clearly the "fan inside" of them that's talking, but given that you are actually associated with gamesindustry.biz and given that you've pimped your site a few times (and so did I), I'd have expected much better analysis from you.
 
Hey, guess what! Some people think $250 and being forced to buy stuff they might not want is a bad deal.

And some people think $250 is a great deal.

Saying you'd be willing to pay $400 for a PSP or saying that this only seals the deal on a DS purchase changes nobody's mind and won't be influential at all in regards to how well either system sells.

Threads like these are fucking stupid. Talk PSP or talk future (potential) financial success in the general market. Nobody cares if you, the guy with the Triforce avatar hates it or if you, the guy with 'sony' in his name loves it. Lets try to get some good fucking discussion going in this gonorrhea hole type of a thread for once in this forum's fucking history.
 
sonycowboy said:
Justin,

Sorry to say this, but GOD YOU'RE ANNOYING LATELY.

Yesterday, you were saying that Sony was "barely" outselling the DS and that they would be lucky to overtake them in a year at best. Today you come in and say that Sony was on their way to have "buried, BURIED" Nintendo with a $200 PSP (which this technically is). I can't believe the double talk that's been coming out of your mouth lately.

Normally, it wouldn't bother me as we've got a ton of people on these boards that have system allegiances and it's clearly the "fan inside" of them that's talking, but given that you are actually associated with gamesindustry.biz and given that you've pimped your site a few times (and so did I), I'd have expected much better analysis from you.

#1, its gamedaily BIZ ;)

#2, there's Justin the gamer, consumer, message board poster, and Justin the (I hope) unbiased journalist. I'm frustrated with this PSP price, because I really really want one (I tried multiple times to find one in Japan that someone would sell to me at cost), but $300 for system+game puts it out of my pricerange. I'm upset I'm gonna have to wait until a pricedrop for PSP goodness, now.

If I were covering the story for biz (which I'm not), I assure you that personal opinion wouldn't come into play. Sony is going to sell as many PSPs as they can possibly make at that price, come March. From a business standpoint, go them. They'll make more money, and they'll successfully offset the hardware loss, with this bundle. Smart move, if you're a Sony shareholder.

Maybe my first post was a bit of hyperbole, but I feel this price point really makes the difference between beating the DS, or losing to the DS. Thats my own personal opinion. Again, maybe the "BURY" stuff was a bit strong, but fundamentally, I feel its in line with my statements I made yesterday. I still feel that simply because of supply its going to take Sony a long-ass time to catch Nintendo. All I was really saying above is that I feel like the DS price very VERY much keeps Nintendo in the game, where a lower price would have been much more dangerous for Nintendo.

Regarding pimping, I feel like I only do it when its truly GAF-worthy ;) Theres lots of stuff I find interesting I write that I don't link. I'm just as likely to link IGN or elsewhere as myself, if the link is worth being posted on here.

We can talk about this more if you like, but I'd appreciate taking it to PMs from here on out.
 
Personally, I think the low attach rate for software sales in Japan lead to the $249.99 value pack only price for the PSPin NA. The attach rate just isn't there yet in portable software to take such huge losses up front. As for Sony burying Nintendo, I don't think that was their plan. Do they want to be the leader? Oh yeah, you know it. But at the same time you don't want to 'bury' the competition by cannabilizing your own at the same time. I'm sure we'll see a $199 core package come out once the costs of producing/assembling/shipping the PSP get under $200.
 
It's apparent by this thread that the PSP is still going to sell well. Some cancel their pre-orders, others pick up some pre-orderes. It works well.
 
So, am I the only person thinking of possibly buying a copy of a few games like Lumines and Metal Gear Acid, even though I plan on waiting for a price drop/standard pack release (I'm with the "I don't want your overpriced low-quality doodads" camp here)?

Edit: Whoa, $40 min. per game? That'll teach me to skim through threads. Well, then here's to hoping that it's just insane markup (suckers :P) and I can use my discount powers to get stuff at $30 or less. @_@
 
I went to Hollywood Video today to rent Starfox, a guy was in GameCrazy asking about the PSP. He thought it was out. "So it's only out in Japan?"

The employee said, "Well, actually, it will be out here this fall."

I probably shouldn't have done this, as it really makes the employee look stupid, but I said "Actually, it comes out March 24th. Sony just announced it today. It'll be $250, and games will be $40. It comes with -"

"Forty bucks for a game? But it's a handheld!"

O_o

People seem to be impressed with the PSP, but turned off by its price, as they're not used to paying those prices for handhelds. Who knows if they decide to give in, or what, but I think it's pretty interesting. You'd think most people would go "Woah, 250 for that, and games are only 40 dollars, instead of 50, like the Ps2?! Sweet!" but that's not the case.
 
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