:lolKobun Heat said:-The only people who thought PSP was going to be less than $199 (let alone $129) were batshit insane and it's your fault for ever listening to them. PEACE.
Hear, hear. People seem to be forgetting that even at $249.99 PSP is still an insane value given the technology (DC+ chipset, WiFi, high visibility 4.5" screen, jpeg/mp3/mpeg4 playback, MSDuo support, etc). Stop focusing on the "Value Pack" and start focusing on the overall value.... this is still cheap for a bleeding edge handheld.kaching said:Strip away the extras in this package and the PSP by itself would still be worth $250. Sony has sold PDAs for $100-$200 more that either weren't any better or were worse in terms of hardware/technology/design on offer, and those didn't even include the extras that this package does.
bishoptl said:GHETTO CONSOLE CONTINUES TO KICK NINTENDO'S ASS EIGHT WAYS FROM SUNDAY
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J. Horwitz said:Che, with all due respect, your comment is pretty much exactly what I would have expected. On the one hand, someone of your importance (and coordinate people who should be far too busy 'working' to hang out on a discussion forum) shows up on this forum multiple times daily and posts all variety of stuff, but yet you try to underplay the value of GAF as an opinion leader and resource.
I would call it hypocritical and self-serving (you'd obviously prefer that your employer's sites and magazines be the "important" ones), but maybe it's just something else. For whatever reason, you spend a lot of time here, but don't want to admit how great of a forum this is.
Communities such as this one are becoming increasingly important in spreading information and generating sales, hence the presence of all the viral marketers, PR folks, and - yes - journalists here. To suggest that this isn't the case is to deny reality. And to suggest that the voice of a community has no impact on the destiny of a product launch is to deny history.
To suggest that this isn't the case is to deny reality. And to suggest that the voice of a community has no impact on the destiny of a product launch is to deny history.
Once Sony announced pricing for Japan they didn't change it. WTF are you talking about?Deg said:You are all fools. Sony will lower the price just before Launch like in Japan. Just watch.
The moronic worth it/not worth crap has to stop. We all know which sides you are on :lol
Within 24 hours? Maybe not. More DS game announcements for the first half of the year? Yes, in that release dates for Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, and Advance Wars haven't been set yet but we know they're on for first half.Hero said:So who's expecting a PR of sorts within 24 hours from Nintendo announcing 'surprise' DS games in the second week of March?
Are you suggesting Nintendo listens to public opinion? Wake up Doug!Drinky Crow said:If this forum was an opinion leader, Nintendo would never have released hardware as cut-rate and archaic as the DS.
jarrod said::lol
Hear, hear. People seem to be forgetting that even at $249.99 PSP is still an insane value given the technology (DC+ chipset, WiFi, high visibility 4.5" screen, jpeg/mp3/mpeg4 playback, MSDuo support, etc). Stop focusing on the "Value Pack" and start focusing on the overall value.... this is still cheap for a bleeding edge handheld.
Doubtful, word has it all were bumped to fall (along with FFCC), possibly working into Nintendo DS online plan somehow. Metroid's still going to make it in the first half though, as will some other smaller tier stuff hopefully (Puppy Times, Kirby, Jam with the Band, etc).Kobun Heat said:Within 24 hours? Maybe not. More DS game announcements for the first half of the year? Yes, in that release dates for Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, and Advance Wars haven't been set yet but we know they're on for first half.
Premuim price? I'd say that would be more along the lines of $299+... at $249 I'd imagine PSP's still a loss taker on Sony's part. The price seems more than fair for what you get.Deg said:We'll see who is laughing. Its not insane value at the price. Its not value at all. You are paying a premium price.
kaching said:The fundamental difference between subjective worth and objective worth is that you consider factors outside of your own personal preferences in the latter case to arrive at an estimation of worth, which is what the rest of your rant fails to do, just as many others have in this thread. At the end of the day, there is a bill for materials and services per PSP unit that you aren't going to be able to argue down below a $100 price point right now just because it doesn't happen to represent something you'd pay for. But go ahead, be my guest and replace Ken Kutaragi as PSP czar and try to convince all the involved suppliers to drastically reduce the prices of PSP materials and services they supply on the strength of your argument that "all worth is subjective".![]()
Drinky Crow said:If this forum was an opinion leader, Nintendo would never have released hardware as cut-rate and archaic as the DS.
Kobun Heat said:Around Japanese launch time my friends were saying the PSP cost about 50,000 yen for Sony to produce. Taking into account: rounding up, the exchange rate, economies of scale, my friend exaggerating, or whatever, let's say it costs them about $400 to make a PSP. It's still a deal and a half and will be for quite some time.
jarrod said:Premuim price? I'd say that would be more along the lines of $299+... at $249 I'd imagine PSP's still a loss taker on Sony's part. The price seems more than fair for what you get.
sonycowboy said:I screwed up posting a whole nother thread because I didn't see anyone talking about it here.
Sony claims that they will ship 1 million units for the NA launch. I'm not entirely sure that they will be an instant sellout with that many units. Or, we're going to be seeing people buying multiple with the assumption that they'll be able to sell them on Ebay and there will be a ton of them there.
That is the largest shipment of systems for a systems launch since the GBA I believe.
sonycowboy said:I screwed up posting a whole nother thread because I didn't see anyone talking about it here.
Sony claims that they will ship 1 million units for the NA launch. I'm not entirely sure that they will be an instant sellout with that many units. Or, we're going to be seeing people buying multiple with the assumption that they'll be able to sell them on Ebay and there will be a ton of them there.
That is the largest shipment of systems for a systems launch since the GBA I believe.
acklame said:Sony said they'll ship 1 million by end of fiscal year. That could mean 500k units on launch day, and rest in transit. That 1 million probably won't arrive on the day it launches I bet.
-jinx- said:More to the point -- what will the SOFTWARE availability be like? Is there any chance that someone would be able to score a PSP, but not get their desired game? That would SUCK.
shantyman said:Everyone bitching about bundle packs at EBgames.com or gamestop.com- what is your aversion to walking into a store to preorder the system only? That's what I did. You don't have to order it online. $20 reserved my system only at a brick and mortar EB.
Deg said:They should be able to sell all of it.
You're gonna be crying :lol
Guarantee how? Can we get an itemized list of component and manufacturing costs per unit?sonycowboy said:I can guarantee you that those estimates are wrong![]()
Not true, PowerStone and Soul Calibur were very hard to find at DC launch and often sold out for weeks.duderon said:I don't think that has ever happened and with the number of titles launching i don't think you have anything to worry about it.
jarrod said:Guarantee how? Can we get an itemized list of component and manufacturing costs per unit?
ManaByte said:If there is a million units for the US launch, why the FUCK did EB stop their retarded $400 pre-sales?
-jinx- said:More to the point -- what will the SOFTWARE availability be like? Is there any chance that someone would be able to score a PSP, but not get their desired game? That would SUCK.
Blah!sonycowboy said:You can trust me
50,000 yen is almost $500 ($478 currently) and it's not close to $400 either.
chespace said:Must I be underplaying something if I put you in check for a moment to say that Sony won't be weighing the collective opinion of GAF as a factor whether to pad their loss by 50 million dollars?
Wow, you really do talk like you write.
It was sold at around $190 for a base pack, and $230-240 for value pack. Value pack has been selling a lot more than base pack (not that it matters as they have both been selling out constantly).They sold it at $199 in Japan after floating $299+ price points.
Yes we all know everyone here on GAF is going to be getting one launch day. Cancel your pre-orders, fine, I don't care, you'll be getting one. :lolDeg said:You are all fools. Sony will lower the price just before Launch like in Japan. Just watch.
The moronic worth it/not worth crap has to stop. We all know which sides you are on :lol
DarienA said:How much space does the average PSP save take up?
sonycowboy said:I'm thinking I should have ordered those 1GB memory stick duo pro cards deals I posted a couple of days ago. The damn cards have been impossible to get anyway and the PSP is going to drive the adoption of these things by an order of magnitude at least.
Methinks it'll be quite difficult to get a 1GB card in late March.
Yes, communities such as this one, not just this one, which is a significant modification of your earlier position that put so much emphasis on GAF as the "opinion leader".J. Horwitz said:Communities such as this one now play a direct role in determining price points.