PSP RELEASE DATE!! (24th of march)

Kobun Heat said:
-The only people who thought PSP was going to be less than $199 (let alone $129) were batshit insane and it's your fault for ever listening to them. PEACE.
:lol


kaching said:
Strip away the extras in this package and the PSP by itself would still be worth $250. Sony has sold PDAs for $100-$200 more that either weren't any better or were worse in terms of hardware/technology/design on offer, and those didn't even include the extras that this package does.
Hear, hear. People seem to be forgetting that even at $249.99 PSP is still an insane value given the technology (DC+ chipset, WiFi, high visibility 4.5" screen, jpeg/mp3/mpeg4 playback, MSDuo support, etc). Stop focusing on the "Value Pack" and start focusing on the overall value.... this is still cheap for a bleeding edge handheld.
 
bishoptl said:
GHETTO CONSOLE CONTINUES TO KICK NINTENDO'S ASS EIGHT WAYS FROM SUNDAY

FURTHER NEWS AS IT DEVELOPS


No doubt. People are comfortable with such accessibility. The NES had that thrown about feel to it.
 
J. Horwitz said:
Che, with all due respect, your comment is pretty much exactly what I would have expected. On the one hand, someone of your importance (and coordinate people who should be far too busy 'working' to hang out on a discussion forum) shows up on this forum multiple times daily and posts all variety of stuff, but yet you try to underplay the value of GAF as an opinion leader and resource.

I would call it hypocritical and self-serving (you'd obviously prefer that your employer's sites and magazines be the "important" ones), but maybe it's just something else. For whatever reason, you spend a lot of time here, but don't want to admit how great of a forum this is.

Communities such as this one are becoming increasingly important in spreading information and generating sales, hence the presence of all the viral marketers, PR folks, and - yes - journalists here. To suggest that this isn't the case is to deny reality. And to suggest that the voice of a community has no impact on the destiny of a product launch is to deny history.

Must I be underplaying something if I put you in check for a moment to say that Sony won't be weighing the collective opinion of GAF as a factor whether to pad their loss by 50 million dollars?

As a member of the gaming industry, I'll be the last person to say that the GAF isn't the most important forum in the field right now, but I'm also not delusional about market forces and corporate policy either.

And if I were you, I wouldn't worry about what my employers might think, or whether I should be way too busy to "hang out" at a place like this. GAF has its place in the industry. But ironically, you're the one who's denying reality when you suggest that sales of the PSP will somehow be affected by a few heated threads on this forum.

To suggest that this isn't the case is to deny reality. And to suggest that the voice of a community has no impact on the destiny of a product launch is to deny history.

Wow, you really do talk like you write.
 
Deg said:
You are all fools. Sony will lower the price just before Launch like in Japan. Just watch.

The moronic worth it/not worth crap has to stop. We all know which sides you are on :lol
Once Sony announced pricing for Japan they didn't change it. WTF are you talking about?

You're in no position to be calling anything/anyone moronic after waving the flag for so long that the PSP would be priced at $150 or less at launch.
 
Hero said:
So who's expecting a PR of sorts within 24 hours from Nintendo announcing 'surprise' DS games in the second week of March?
Within 24 hours? Maybe not. More DS game announcements for the first half of the year? Yes, in that release dates for Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, and Advance Wars haven't been set yet but we know they're on for first half.
 
Drinky Crow said:
If this forum was an opinion leader, Nintendo would never have released hardware as cut-rate and archaic as the DS.
Are you suggesting Nintendo listens to public opinion? Wake up Doug!
 
jarrod said:
:lol



Hear, hear. People seem to be forgetting that even at $249.99 PSP is still an insane value given the technology (DC+ chipset, WiFi, high visibility 4.5" screen, jpeg/mp3/mpeg4 playback, MSDuo support, etc). Stop focusing on the "Value Pack" and start focusing on the overall value.... this is still cheap for a bleeding edge handheld.

We'll see who is laughing. Its not insane value at the price. Its not value at all. You are paying a premium price. Maybe for some people here i guess $500 is starting to get expensive... It wont stay at this price for long. PSP SHOULD be kicking DS's arse through hell but it hasnt been able to so far. Overpricing it is maybe for the hype to increase its value and then knocking the price down again before or shortly after launch.
 
Kobun Heat said:
Within 24 hours? Maybe not. More DS game announcements for the first half of the year? Yes, in that release dates for Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, and Advance Wars haven't been set yet but we know they're on for first half.
Doubtful, word has it all were bumped to fall (along with FFCC), possibly working into Nintendo DS online plan somehow. Metroid's still going to make it in the first half though, as will some other smaller tier stuff hopefully (Puppy Times, Kirby, Jam with the Band, etc).
 
Deg said:
We'll see who is laughing. Its not insane value at the price. Its not value at all. You are paying a premium price.
Premuim price? I'd say that would be more along the lines of $299+... at $249 I'd imagine PSP's still a loss taker on Sony's part. The price seems more than fair for what you get.
 
kaching said:
The fundamental difference between subjective worth and objective worth is that you consider factors outside of your own personal preferences in the latter case to arrive at an estimation of worth, which is what the rest of your rant fails to do, just as many others have in this thread. At the end of the day, there is a bill for materials and services per PSP unit that you aren't going to be able to argue down below a $100 price point right now just because it doesn't happen to represent something you'd pay for. But go ahead, be my guest and replace Ken Kutaragi as PSP czar and try to convince all the involved suppliers to drastically reduce the prices of PSP materials and services they supply on the strength of your argument that "all worth is subjective". :)

The thing is, all worth is PERSONAL PREFERENCE. How do you think companies come to selecting a price? By looking at the demand and selecting a price for it. Everyone uses factors of demand to set a price, and demand is how much people are willing to pay for it. That is all, no more no less. It's all subjective. Your demand for the item may be, $500 ... meaning you would pay $500. Mine would probably be around $100 for this ... my mom's would be $0.00 ... and so on. Everyone has their own price. All demand is, is what its worth TO YOU.
 
Everyone bitching about bundle packs at EBgames.com or gamestop.com- what is your aversion to walking into a store to preorder the system only? That's what I did. You don't have to order it online. $20 reserved my system only at a brick and mortar EB.
 
Around Japanese launch time my friends were saying the PSP cost about 50,000 yen for Sony to produce. Taking into account: rounding up, the exchange rate, economies of scale, my friend exaggerating, or whatever, let's say it costs them about $400 to make a PSP. It's still a deal and a half and will be for quite some time.
 
Drinky Crow said:
If this forum was an opinion leader, Nintendo would never have released hardware as cut-rate and archaic as the DS.

:lol

He sees an opening:

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HE SCORES!
 
Kobun Heat said:
Around Japanese launch time my friends were saying the PSP cost about 50,000 yen for Sony to produce. Taking into account: rounding up, the exchange rate, economies of scale, my friend exaggerating, or whatever, let's say it costs them about $400 to make a PSP. It's still a deal and a half and will be for quite some time.

I can guarantee you that those estimates are wrong :)
 
I screwed up posting a whole nother thread because I didn't see anyone talking about it here.


Sony claims that they will ship 1 million units for the NA launch. I'm not entirely sure that they will be an instant sellout with that many units. Or, we're going to be seeing people buying multiple with the assumption that they'll be able to sell them on Ebay and there will be a ton of them there.

That is the largest shipment of systems for a systems launch since the GBA I believe.
 
They should be able to sell all of it.

jarrod said:
Premuim price? I'd say that would be more along the lines of $299+... at $249 I'd imagine PSP's still a loss taker on Sony's part. The price seems more than fair for what you get.

You're gonna be crying :lol
 
sonycowboy said:
I screwed up posting a whole nother thread because I didn't see anyone talking about it here.


Sony claims that they will ship 1 million units for the NA launch. I'm not entirely sure that they will be an instant sellout with that many units. Or, we're going to be seeing people buying multiple with the assumption that they'll be able to sell them on Ebay and there will be a ton of them there.

That is the largest shipment of systems for a systems launch since the GBA I believe.

Sony said they'll ship 1 million by end of fiscal year. That could mean 500k units on launch day, and rest in transit. That 1 million probably won't arrive on the day it launches I bet.
 
sonycowboy said:
I screwed up posting a whole nother thread because I didn't see anyone talking about it here.


Sony claims that they will ship 1 million units for the NA launch. I'm not entirely sure that they will be an instant sellout with that many units. Or, we're going to be seeing people buying multiple with the assumption that they'll be able to sell them on Ebay and there will be a ton of them there.

That is the largest shipment of systems for a systems launch since the GBA I believe.


Yup. So much for hoarding units over EBAY.
 
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I'm a cheap bastard... I'm midway through college... I work less than 10 hours a week...and I was oh so close to forking over the money to get a PSP. I've always wanted an ipod... too cheap to get that. So this was what I was planning to finally give in to. From what I've read and seen the PSP sure seemed to be the next big thing. Not just in VG but in everything. However, now at $250+ I'm going to have to wait. 199 was a strech for me. I'm already bogged down as it is, and first gen. sony hardware isn't the most reliable thing out there. I want the PSP to be my do it all anytime media center. I want to be able to drag it around where ever I go and have be durable enough to stand up to it. If it turns out that this is what the PSP is, exactly what I hope to see, then maybe I'll eventually fork over the cash for it. Untill then, I'll have to wait. $50 may not sound like much, and I'm sure that 250 is still a great deal.. but it made me double think it, 199 would have been much easier for me to just go with it and take my chances.
 
acklame said:
Sony said they'll ship 1 million by end of fiscal year. That could mean 500k units on launch day, and rest in transit. That 1 million probably won't arrive on the day it launches I bet.


That's a matter of 7 days betwen March 24th and the 31st. Granted, you've got in transit, but it's not like they're going to be making a ton of these in those couple of days.
 
More to the point -- what will the SOFTWARE availability be like? Is there any chance that someone would be able to score a PSP, but not get their desired game? That would SUCK.
 
-jinx- said:
More to the point -- what will the SOFTWARE availability be like? Is there any chance that someone would be able to score a PSP, but not get their desired game? That would SUCK.

I don't think that has ever happened and with the number of titles launching i don't think you have anything to worry about it.
 
shantyman said:
Everyone bitching about bundle packs at EBgames.com or gamestop.com- what is your aversion to walking into a store to preorder the system only? That's what I did. You don't have to order it online. $20 reserved my system only at a brick and mortar EB.

Getting it as it's available, and the fear or getting claustrophobia combined. You HAVE to order it online. :lol
 
My disappointment boils down to simply not having $350 for a PSP and a couple games at launch.

It's not Sony's fault I'm not pulling down enough jack to go grab one of the first ones.

It will still sell out the launch and this generates a few extra bills in revenue - not that understanding the idea makes it any less disappointing mind you.
 
Deg said:
They should be able to sell all of it.

You're gonna be crying :lol

What on earth are you talking about? You make it sound as if they are charging more than the assembly cost of the unit...
 
duderon said:
I don't think that has ever happened and with the number of titles launching i don't think you have anything to worry about it.
Not true, PowerStone and Soul Calibur were very hard to find at DC launch and often sold out for weeks.
 
ManaByte said:
If there is a million units for the US launch, why the FUCK did EB stop their retarded $400 pre-sales?

Because it's EB. Every new thing that comes out is "super rare" and "you'll never, ever, ever, even by the grace of God, ever get it unless you pre-order it today. Not tomorrow, today."

Don't buy their horseshit. If you really want to pre-order it, find a local Toys R Us, or hell, I bet even Best Buy or Circuit City will be letting you pre-order the damned thing soon enough.
 
-jinx- said:
More to the point -- what will the SOFTWARE availability be like? Is there any chance that someone would be able to score a PSP, but not get their desired game? That would SUCK.



Silly, no one is buying PSP for games.....right? :)
 
If it's anything like the DC launch, I'll buy the two "must have" games the first day, and then find myself purchasing more and more games as my love for the system grows.
 
chespace said:
Must I be underplaying something if I put you in check for a moment to say that Sony won't be weighing the collective opinion of GAF as a factor whether to pad their loss by 50 million dollars?

They sold it at $199 in Japan after floating $299+ price points. Apparently some external collective opinion mattered there, and I guarantee that it wasn't the drooling game journos who were ready to pronounce PSP a hit no matter what the price was. Communities such as this one now play a direct role in determining price points.

Wow, you really do talk like you write.

You wouldn't know. No, really, you wouldn't know.
 
They sold it at $199 in Japan after floating $299+ price points.
It was sold at around $190 for a base pack, and $230-240 for value pack. Value pack has been selling a lot more than base pack (not that it matters as they have both been selling out constantly).
 
The most dissapointing thing about this news is, I won't be able to buy Ridge Racers and a 1gig memory stick for ~$350. I expected the base unit to be $179 or $199.

I'll have to settle for the 512mb ms.
 
I'm thinking I should have ordered those 1GB memory stick duo pro cards deals I posted a couple of days ago. The damn cards have been impossible to get anyway and the PSP is going to drive the adoption of these things by an order of magnitude at least.

Methinks it'll be quite difficult to get a 1GB card in late March.
 
I'll just wait for a barebones system for $179.99 - $199.99

I wonder if GameStop & co. are going to start selling used memory sticks now...
 
Deg said:
You are all fools. Sony will lower the price just before Launch like in Japan. Just watch.

The moronic worth it/not worth crap has to stop. We all know which sides you are on :lol
Yes we all know everyone here on GAF is going to be getting one launch day. Cancel your pre-orders, fine, I don't care, you'll be getting one. :lol
 
DarienA said:
How much space does the average PSP save take up?

Looking at the saves on my PSP, here's what I found:

Ridge Racers game data 272KB
Ridge Racers replay 256KB
Ridge Racers ghost data 256KB
Lumines 96KB
Mojipittan (Japanese scrabble-like game) 80KB
 
sonycowboy said:
I'm thinking I should have ordered those 1GB memory stick duo pro cards deals I posted a couple of days ago. The damn cards have been impossible to get anyway and the PSP is going to drive the adoption of these things by an order of magnitude at least.

Methinks it'll be quite difficult to get a 1GB card in late March.

sure, a week after launch they'll be impossible to find.

by June though, you'll be able to get a gig stick for $100.
 
J. Horwitz said:
Communities such as this one now play a direct role in determining price points.
Yes, communities such as this one, not just this one, which is a significant modification of your earlier position that put so much emphasis on GAF as the "opinion leader".
 
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