PSP(TM) (PlayStation(R) Portable) Amasses Largest Launch Line-Up for March 24th
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Ignatz Mouse
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OK. The rest of us will go back to our glee now.
Guns N' Poops
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It seems fair to remember, that ports on PSP have always exclusive content. NFSUR PSP's 10 exclusive tracks are worth more than something that tries to be a straight port of a console game (NFSU2 DS) in ugly.
Ignatz Mouse
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jarrod said:
I didn't realize that about APe Escape.
But Ridge Racer is more like Mario All Stars than Mario 64. I wouldn't call it a port as much as a compilation of old tracks with a new engine.
Erm, they did add Wario, Pokemon Dash and Rayman. Plus those "Small japanese puzzle games and mini game collections" aren't anything to scoff at, they're all pretty great (Wario Ware, Mr Driller, Feel the Magic & Zoo Keeper). Hell, PSP's most promising game is Lumines for some, despite it's sports/racing heavy debut. Seriously, the EU DS launch lineup isn't bad at all, especially compared to America...Guns N' Poops said:
AMERICA
-Asphalt: Urban GT
-Feel the Magic: XY/XX
-Madden NFL 2005
-Spider-Man 2
-Super Mario 64 DS
-The Urbz: Sims in the City
EUROPE
-Asphalt: Urban GT
-Mr. Driller Drill Spirits
-Ping Pals
-Pokemon Dash
-Polarium
-Project Rub
-Rayman DS
-Robots
-Spider-Man 2
-Sprung: The Dating Game
-Super Mario 64 DS
-The Urbz: Sims in the City
-Tiger Woods PGA Tour
-WarioWare Touched!
-Zoo Keeper
btutterrow
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Definite Buy
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
-- Darkstalkers Chronicle(TM): The Chaos Tower, Capcom
Maybe (Check Reviews)
-- Ape Escape(R): On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- Spider-Man 2(TM), Activision
-- Twisted Metal: Head On(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment
-- Wipeout(R) Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
-- Darkstalkers Chronicle(TM): The Chaos Tower, Capcom
Maybe (Check Reviews)
-- Ape Escape(R): On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- Spider-Man 2(TM), Activision
-- Twisted Metal: Head On(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment
-- Wipeout(R) Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America
Ignatz Mouse
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jarrod said:Yep, it's the PS1 game. Not that I mind, it's the best 3D platformer ever imo.
Sure, but it's not really "new" either. I wouldn't call Sonic Jam or Mario-Allstars "new" games.
But I wouldn't write them off as just "ports" either. That's what my post was about, replying to the other guy.
Ignatz Mouse said:
Yeah everyone thought it was new, until it was shown. Port/remake of Ape Escape 1... with... a crappier control scheme.
That's more accurate, but not quite. Since the game is running on a brand new engine all the tracks have been remade and look better than ever. There are 24 tracks (12 reverse tracks) which makes it the largest Ridge Racer ever, and some of the tracks are from Rage Racer and Rave Racer which haven't seen home releases. There are also 2 completely original tracks which are "inspired" by the 2 Rave Racer tracks in theme but completely new in content. There are 12 brand new music tracks, 6 remixes and 12 classic tracks that would actually be considered "rehash" except they're from 6 different previous games. The gameplay is also all new with different physics, drifting and nitro systems.
The reason I'm so peeved whenever anyone calls Ridge Racers a "rehash like Mario 64 DS" is that it really undermines the effort Namco put into the game and content and is pretty much a slap in the face to developers that worked their ass off on a brand new game.
Spectral Glider
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$40 and possibly up for games? Forget it.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
-- FIFA 2005, Electronic Arts
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- NBA Street Showdown, Electronic Arts
-- Need for Speed(TM) Rivals, Electronic Arts
America
that looks like my shopping list.
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- NBA Street Showdown, Electronic Arts
-- Need for Speed(TM) Rivals, Electronic Arts
America
that looks like my shopping list.
That's a great launch lineup, and I see the trolls are out in full force this morning too....Dammit, Looks like:
-- Ape Escape(R): On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
-- Twisted Metal: Head On(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment
-- Wipeout(R) Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America
for me. By the end of March my wallet will look like this:
-- Ape Escape(R): On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
-- Twisted Metal: Head On(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment
-- Wipeout(R) Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America
for me. By the end of March my wallet will look like this:
Spectral Glider
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commish said:
Or I could get something more worthwhile with my $40. Like console versions of TM and Wipeout and to hell with this handheld crap.
krypt0nian
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If you're not into sports/XTREME crap then its slim pickings...
Definite Buy
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
Maybe
-- Darkstalkers Chronicle(TM): The Chaos Tower, Capcom
Definite Buy
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
Maybe
-- Darkstalkers Chronicle(TM): The Chaos Tower, Capcom
The game prices don't make sense. PSP games in Japan range from 3,800 to 4,800 Yen, while console games can go as high as 8,800 Yen, with most at 6,800. Yet in NA it would appear that PSP games aren't that far off from console games.
And duckroll: which two tracks are inspired by Rave Racer? The downtown tracks set at night (my two favorite tracks in RRs), or the mountain ones (ironically my least favorite in the game).
And duckroll: which two tracks are inspired by Rave Racer? The downtown tracks set at night (my two favorite tracks in RRs), or the mountain ones (ironically my least favorite in the game).
sonycowboy
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Defensor said:That's a great launch lineup, and I see the trolls are out in full force this morning too....Dammit, Looks like:
-- Ape Escape(R): On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
-- Twisted Metal: Head On(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment
-- Wipeout(R) Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America
for me. By the end of March my wallet will look like this:
:lol
Yeah, it's not like the launch titles were any huge secret. I also wasn't expecting many of these to be available at launch. And compared to DS' launch (anywhere)...
Miburou said:
Yeah, the price of US games is a little surprising. On the high side no doubt.
Midtown Highway is the night version of the Rave Racer City track, same track but at night and with better graphics. Greenpeak Highlands is the Rave Racer Mountain track, also improved but otherwise the same.
The inspired tracks are Downtown Rave City and Silvercreek Dam. Both are inspired by City and Mountain no doubt, but the track itself is 100% original with awesome videos. I just love the castle coming into view when you're playing Rave City Reverse, if you haven't try that you should try it now. You can't see the castle come into view on the normal circuit because you see the ferris wheel instead.
CrimsonSkies
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Great launch lineup for a new handheld. I don't see how anyone can complain. *Shrugs*
krypt0nian
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xsarien said:
Who said they were extreme? They just suck out of the box. No interest here.
soundwave05
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CrimsonSkies said:
Oh its not the launch lineup that people are complaining about if you hadn't noticed. And $49.99 for some of those games ... fantastic.
aparisi2274
Member
$249.99 is what I thought it would be when it launched. That about what I payed for the Value Pack in Japan. I have Ridgeracers so I dont think I need that again. I would like to pick up:
MVP Baseball, Electronic Arts
Wipeout(R) Pure
When I read about Spiderman 2 movie launching with the first million units, I was tempted to buy the US version, but then I realized I dont want to watch that movie on a portable.
MVP Baseball, Electronic Arts
Wipeout(R) Pure
When I read about Spiderman 2 movie launching with the first million units, I was tempted to buy the US version, but then I realized I dont want to watch that movie on a portable.
Flying Llama said:
You do know that this is not an action game right? You don't even control the mechs, you just "tune" the AI (which is just a bunch of nonsense numbers on various attributes) and then watch your mech fight by itself without being able to skip the match at all. I was almost going to get it with my JP PSP but once I found out I cried. ;_;
SonicMegaDrive
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So PSP games will cost the same as their console counterparts.
Huh.
I forsee a lot of 10-20 dollar games coming to the PSP very quickly.
Huh.
I forsee a lot of 10-20 dollar games coming to the PSP very quickly.
krypt0nian
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xsarien said:
No I listed what out of the "slim pickings" I was intersted in....as in the "Must buy" and "Maybe"
Read man! Read!
duckroll said:
Believe me I don't follow GAF's purchacing patterns. :lol
So wait...$40 to $50 games...and the portable is $250??? And you still need a case (exposed screen), a memory stick (not cheap) and (depending on the battery life) a battery pak??? I see only die hards getting this. And I know there's ALOT of die hard PSer's out there, but I don't see the mainstream buying this just yet. But then that's the beauty of it right: small shipments, sold out to the die hards, shortages, thus false demand.
I still think Sony is going to have a tough time selling PSP to the mainstream. Yeah, it's "console quality" on a portable...but the hardware/software is too expensive for the portable market. I mean, why would gamers go this route when they could instead use that money to buy console games or (better yet) save up for the next generation systems *cough*XenonFall2005*cough*! Plus, since they're "console quality", do they really expect people to buy them when they: A) already own the console version or B) already planned on getting the console version instead. Please don't tell me they expect mainstreamers to buy both the console and portable versions of the same kind of game at the same kind of price just 'cos they're of the same "console quality". DS, at least gives you something different than what's already available on consoles, while PSP is more of the same...but the problem is that the prices are not justified.
I've said this before...portable gaming WILL ALWAYS be secondary to console gaming...no matter how Sony tries to make portable gaming "cool" or "hip" they won't change that fact. Mainstream gamers (Sony's lifeblood) are not gonna buy TWO systems with pretty much the same kind of games...especially when they're waiting for next generation (right around the corner) and especially when portable gaming isn't as important to them as console gaming. Portable gaming is for short bursts of fun here and there, puzzle games, light games, simple games. Graphics matter to portable gamers, but not if it's at the sacrifice of durability, price & battery life (all of which I think PSP *will* have issues with)!
I think Sony not only expects to change portable gaming, but also expects alot of mainstream gamers to buy PSP *instead* of DS and *instead* of Xenon in order to tide them over until PS3 comes...I'm sorry, but this won't work IMO. Ask Nintendo, it's very difficult to manage multiple platforms at once. Even if Sony manages to skew the market older, manages to convince people to buy a PSP (at a loss to them, mind you) that's not to say that these same people will start increasing the tie in ratio so that they can make their money back on software...and even IF they do then that's money that people aren't spending on console games. Tie in ratio's for portables have always been less than that of consoles...not 'cos of the reasons Sony is looking to change the portable sector...but BECAUSE of the console sector (again, people will ALWAYS see portable gaming as secondary to console gaming). Look at Nintendo...they managed to convince people to buy portables as well as consoles thanks to their GameBoy dynasty, but that has hurt them 'cos people who want Nintendo games aren't buying GAMECUBE's...they're buying GameBoy's. It's very tough to manage multiple platforms at once...I think if Sony takes a chunk out of the portable market they're console business will probably lose a chunk as a result.
Sony will also have to realize that in order to sell the PSP it'll need software unique to it and only it...something that'll not only give people a reason to get a PSP, but also a reason NOT to get the competing DS *and* home consoles. So do they sacrifice a big hit on PS2 or PS3 to try and make it a killer app for PSP to help it sell instead? Yes there's some unique PSP software, but are they going to be the caliber of say what Square Enix will do for DS, or what the Shonen Jump game will do for DS or hell, even just PokeMon which will inevitably hit DS??? I've said this before too...even if the PSP hit's any kind of stride (and it will if they lower the price of the unit and it's games) Nintendo will have a more capable, more durable, more battery freindly and probably more powerful GameBoy ready to take on PSP more dirrectly than DS can.
And *already* Nintendo DS is combatting PSP pretty good by launching earlier, being something different than PSP, garnering killer apps (I mentioned above), Square Enix support, forcing Sony to take a bigger loss than they planned ALL while making a profit on each unit and having the room for a nice pricedrop if need be. Not to mention that the Nintendo DS will be more durable, have better battery life and be cheaper (hardware & software)...all of which are KEY factors for portable gamers!
I still think Sony is going to have a tough time selling PSP to the mainstream. Yeah, it's "console quality" on a portable...but the hardware/software is too expensive for the portable market. I mean, why would gamers go this route when they could instead use that money to buy console games or (better yet) save up for the next generation systems *cough*XenonFall2005*cough*! Plus, since they're "console quality", do they really expect people to buy them when they: A) already own the console version or B) already planned on getting the console version instead. Please don't tell me they expect mainstreamers to buy both the console and portable versions of the same kind of game at the same kind of price just 'cos they're of the same "console quality". DS, at least gives you something different than what's already available on consoles, while PSP is more of the same...but the problem is that the prices are not justified.
I've said this before...portable gaming WILL ALWAYS be secondary to console gaming...no matter how Sony tries to make portable gaming "cool" or "hip" they won't change that fact. Mainstream gamers (Sony's lifeblood) are not gonna buy TWO systems with pretty much the same kind of games...especially when they're waiting for next generation (right around the corner) and especially when portable gaming isn't as important to them as console gaming. Portable gaming is for short bursts of fun here and there, puzzle games, light games, simple games. Graphics matter to portable gamers, but not if it's at the sacrifice of durability, price & battery life (all of which I think PSP *will* have issues with)!
I think Sony not only expects to change portable gaming, but also expects alot of mainstream gamers to buy PSP *instead* of DS and *instead* of Xenon in order to tide them over until PS3 comes...I'm sorry, but this won't work IMO. Ask Nintendo, it's very difficult to manage multiple platforms at once. Even if Sony manages to skew the market older, manages to convince people to buy a PSP (at a loss to them, mind you) that's not to say that these same people will start increasing the tie in ratio so that they can make their money back on software...and even IF they do then that's money that people aren't spending on console games. Tie in ratio's for portables have always been less than that of consoles...not 'cos of the reasons Sony is looking to change the portable sector...but BECAUSE of the console sector (again, people will ALWAYS see portable gaming as secondary to console gaming). Look at Nintendo...they managed to convince people to buy portables as well as consoles thanks to their GameBoy dynasty, but that has hurt them 'cos people who want Nintendo games aren't buying GAMECUBE's...they're buying GameBoy's. It's very tough to manage multiple platforms at once...I think if Sony takes a chunk out of the portable market they're console business will probably lose a chunk as a result.
Sony will also have to realize that in order to sell the PSP it'll need software unique to it and only it...something that'll not only give people a reason to get a PSP, but also a reason NOT to get the competing DS *and* home consoles. So do they sacrifice a big hit on PS2 or PS3 to try and make it a killer app for PSP to help it sell instead? Yes there's some unique PSP software, but are they going to be the caliber of say what Square Enix will do for DS, or what the Shonen Jump game will do for DS or hell, even just PokeMon which will inevitably hit DS??? I've said this before too...even if the PSP hit's any kind of stride (and it will if they lower the price of the unit and it's games) Nintendo will have a more capable, more durable, more battery freindly and probably more powerful GameBoy ready to take on PSP more dirrectly than DS can.
And *already* Nintendo DS is combatting PSP pretty good by launching earlier, being something different than PSP, garnering killer apps (I mentioned above), Square Enix support, forcing Sony to take a bigger loss than they planned ALL while making a profit on each unit and having the room for a nice pricedrop if need be. Not to mention that the Nintendo DS will be more durable, have better battery life and be cheaper (hardware & software)...all of which are KEY factors for portable gamers!
Guns N' Poops
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^ This shows how fucking hilarious Nintendrones are. DrNintendrone obviously has the mightiest crystalball ever
I guess I glossed over the pricing scheme in that other thread. No way I buy a PSP until software prices go down. I dont even buy console games for anything over 40 these days.. it's just not worth it to me. Sure, I might only save 10 or 15 bucks and that really isnt anything to me in the long run, but if I can save some money, then I'll do it.
Justin Bailey
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Goddamn son, you need to give it a rest.DrGAKMAN said:
Kung Fu Jedi
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I'll most likely pick up Tiger Woods Golf and NFL Street, but I'm also looking at Wipout Pure, Untold Legends, Metal Gear Acid, and a number of others depending on reviews, options, etc. I think it's a great launch lineup with plenty of potential. Hell, Twisted Metal, NBA Street, and Dynasty Warriors is hovering on my horizon as possible titles to pick up as well.
BTW, what the heck is Smartbomb? Anyone have any info or screen shots of this one from Eidos?
BTW, what the heck is Smartbomb? Anyone have any info or screen shots of this one from Eidos?
