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PStwo & Xbox/halo 2, DS vs GC this fall
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Yeah, point out games that suck by and large to most gamers.GaimeGuy said:
The point is consumers know they'll never see stuff like GT, TWB, SOCOM, Max Payne, or DMC. on GCN. Rightly or wrongly consumers feel that Bond, NFSU, Spiderman, and Madden are just as good family games as Nintendo franchises. Now that looks like mature and family games to me, but maybe it isn't to everyone else. Nintendo's problem is they're only serving half the market and some consumers actually feel that Sony does a better job in the half Nintendo serves when it comes quality in addition to quantity.
Catchpenny
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Bond and NFSU are family games? I didn't know street racers and Teen-rated FPS games were family fare.
I think Revolution will hold onto the GC userbase and then improve on that. Ofcourse that's assuming Revolution is similar to what GC was this gen, but we know that's yet to be seen...
edit: ah on topic, the GC will be fine as long as nintendo keeps producing games for it. And we know they won't stop until Revolution is released so, no worries here.
edit: ah on topic, the GC will be fine as long as nintendo keeps producing games for it. And we know they won't stop until Revolution is released so, no worries here.
That's not the point.GaimeGuy said:
The point is that Nintendo games aren't selling the GCN the way Activision and EA are selling the PS2.
The point is there are more on PS2 and families think they're better.
Guys, the next 3 months and the past 6 months the charts have been dominated by 3rd parties on PS2, most of which aren't 'mature', or the type of games not on GCN that usually get blamed for it's poor sales.
I'm confused about what exactly makes the Xbox a hulking sucess while the GC is a failure. They're pretty much even in hardware sales worldwide (and I'd imagine in software sales as well). And at the end of the generation I'd wager that they'll still be very close to each other.
Catchpenny
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I actually agree with Subitai's larger point about the PS2 reaching Nintendo's target audience just as well or better than Nintendo. Bond and NFSU are lousy examples, though...single male adolescents are the primary audience for those games.
Anyway, I don't see the Gamecube dying off before the release of Zelda. The release schedule for 2005 looks fairly good so far. With Nintendo's penchant for doing well in a system's twilight years, and Microsoft's rush to get the jump on Sony with their next console, I'd say Gamecube has just as much life in it as Xbox, if not more.
Anyway, I don't see the Gamecube dying off before the release of Zelda. The release schedule for 2005 looks fairly good so far. With Nintendo's penchant for doing well in a system's twilight years, and Microsoft's rush to get the jump on Sony with their next console, I'd say Gamecube has just as much life in it as Xbox, if not more.
Shoryuken said:
nintendo MADE the game and the newcomer, MS is beating them at it for one. for 2, 3rd parties are dropping GC support. with the DS this christmas and nintendos first party games, where does that leave 3rd party sales on the GC? NOWHERE. the only territory where gc has the lead over xbox, japan, DOESNT MATTER. a handful of those 3rd party games, the ones that matter for the casuals anyway, come from the US and EU now. even if it ends up with the GC beating xbox world wide, which you'd have to be insane to think anyway, everyone and their mom, including myself expected the what i called the "xbrick" at its launch to fail. we all got backhanded by MS. the only ones who wont admit it are the ones too stupid to enjoy what the console offers.
Buffy4ever
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snapty00 said:
Thier has always been alot of Mario games on all of the Nintendo systems. If you didn't like them back in the NES or SNES days, I could understand your compalint with Nintendo. If you are a person that thought the NES or SNES was the best becuase of Nintendo's games, then I don't see why one would argue about " too MUCH Mario." Nintendo hasn't changed that much. I understand Nintendo putting Mario on everything, it sells. I am sure if Sony had a character as marketable as Mario, they would do the SAME thing as Nintendo.
I think I quoted the wrong post, the 3rd parties dropping support is related to their games not selling, which is related to the half-assed version they release.
Even those that sell well just get ported. :/
ToS, VJ, and Godzilla: DAMM are a few examples.
Godzilla sold over 500k on the cube, and like 50k on the Xbox, yet Godzilla 2 is xbox exclusive.
Even those that sell well just get ported. :/
ToS, VJ, and Godzilla: DAMM are a few examples.
Godzilla sold over 500k on the cube, and like 50k on the Xbox, yet Godzilla 2 is xbox exclusive.