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Pure elitist thread. What's your honor code?

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Ok i don't know if that makes us elitist. Maybe it's just love for games.
I'm curious to know about what i can your gaming honor code. I may not be in the majority of people here but when i play videogames, there's a general set of rules i came up with over the years that i am used to go by and respect. I'm actually curious to know if i'm a rare bread or we all kind of set us rules while playing.

For me it would go like this i guess:

- Never cheat to complete a game. This is an easy one i guess. To me this not only include imputing codes into a game but also to never look at a guide or ask for a friend's help or something. I don't look for strategies over the internet either. Cheating also includes using glitchs and bugs in a game to achieve stuff.

- Try to play with "style". What i mean here is that i'm trying to use all that the game gives me and not being a cheap ass. Let's say your character is having 5 moves but look there's one you could only use all the time and kill everyone with it. This little rule would make me use the 5 moves of my character instead of playing cheap. Also, there's some platformers or action games where sliding is faster than running. I feel it's tedious and boring that one is always sliding instead of running, it kinda look silly. In this case i would not slide lamely all the time when i have to go from point A to point B

- Never lie about gaming skills. Hmm, i guess i'm gonna in a minority here...

- Never save cowardly in a save anywhere game. You know those kind of "oh shit i killed ONE ennemi let's go save" type of gamer. Bullshit. I try to save when it's been a little while, when i feel i completed some section of the game.

- Never skip cut-scenes and text when it's the first play through the game. I guess it pretty much tell what it is about.


Well that's about it from the top of my head. Do you have rules/habits of play like that?
Does that makes us a bizarre breed? Those rules for me are a kind of respect i give to videogame and i think this respect comes from passion.

discuss!
 
I'm with you except on the "save anywhere" thing. And in full disclosure of my gaming skills-- it's usually becuase I suck at the game in question.

Another: Never read a FAQ/cheat/walkthrough to solve a puzzle until you have absolutely given up. Wait a day or to before you do so, if you do. Only read for that one hurdle, the stop reading the FAQ/walkthrough.
 
Is refusing to play a fighter without a stick that meets very high, and often custom, specifications a matter of honor or just me being an ass?

I do work very hard to make sure that my madness doesn't inconvenience the other players.
 
- Never save cowardly in a save anywhere game. You know those kind of "oh shit i killed ONE ennemi let's go save" type of gamer. Bullshit. I try to save when it's been a little while, when i feel i completed some section of the game.

I save everywhere/all the time because the very THOUGHT of having to repeat sections of a game over makes my interest in playing dwindle.
 
CVXFREAK said:
Just have fun is my honor code.

What he said. Enjoy the game for what it is... not for some artificial rules I have to set up beforehand.
 
I'm with you on most of those as well. I do save regularly in games mostly because I hate to back track, but I don't tend to keep too many different saves. When playing an RPG or adventure game I usually keep two or three saves and rotate through them, saving over them. This makes what ever choices a I make in the game permanent, and prevents me from going back to choose a different path should I find I dont like the consequences of the one I've chosen. Make a choice and stick to it.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
Another: Never read a FAQ/cheat/walkthrough to solve a puzzle until you have absolutely given up.


I do this, but to a point. Some things in games (Like GTA:SA) would be impossible to find out about unless you had a faq/walkthrough. What I do is beat the game first, then use the faqs/walkthroughs to find the extra stuff.
 
No cheating and no giving your opinion about games unless you have at least 15 years of gaming experience.
 
I try not to look at a FAQ or whatever when I play a game, unless it's getting dumb (like some of the door puzzles near the end of Silent Hill).

I don't really have a "code of honor," I'm playing video games here.

I'm waiting for the first jerkoff who says he doesn't throw in fighting games.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Make a choice and stick to it.

Yeah i like that too. And sometimes i stop before re-loading a game after a bad move, you know like having a really bad battle at RE4 and you could reload the game right now and save more bullets. Sometimes i'm like "it's my problem. I played like an ass then i'll have to cope with it and recover from that like a pro" (read "without reloading the game").

And well, of course those rules are respected to a point. Nobody should have habits/rules that compromise their fun.
 
Wyzdom said:
Ok i don't know if that makes us elitist. Maybe it's just love for games.
I'm curious to know about what i can your gaming honor code. I may not be in the majority of people here but when i play videogames, there's a general set of rules i came up with over the years that i am used to go by and respect. I'm actually curious to know if i'm a rare bread or we all kind of set us rules while playing.

For me it would go like this i guess:

- Never cheat to complete a game. This is an easy one i guess. To me this not only include imputing codes into a game but also to never look at a guide or ask for a friend's help or something. I don't look for strategies over the internet either. Cheating also includes using glitchs and bugs in a game to achieve stuff.

- Try to play with "style". What i mean here is that i'm trying to use all that the game gives me and not being a cheap ass. Let's say your character is having 5 moves but look there's one you could only use all the time and kill everyone with it. This little rule would make me use the 5 moves of my character instead of playing cheap. Also, there's some platformers or action games where sliding is faster than running. I feel it's tedious and boring that one is always sliding instead of running, it kinda look silly. In this case i would not slide lamely all the time when i have to go from point A to point B

- Never lie about gaming skills. Hmm, i guess i'm gonna in a minority here...

- Never save cowardly in a save anywhere game. You know those kind of "oh shit i killed ONE ennemi let's go save" type of gamer. Bullshit. I try to save when it's been a little while, when i feel i completed some section of the game.

- Never skip cut-scenes and text when it's the first play through the game. I guess it pretty much tell what it is about.


Well that's about it from the top of my head. Do you have rules/habits of play like that?
Does that makes us a bizarre breed? Those rules for me are a kind of respect i give to videogame and i think this respect comes from passion.

discuss!
Dude, you are my gaming half!

However, I´d like to add that I enjoy punishing people that play games to win instead to have fun. So when I meet someone like this, when playing multiplayer I focus my angry against him, making sure he won´t ever win. The fact that I´m very skilled player makes this task quite easy :)

I don´t like to have mercy with newbies. I play the same I do with advanced or master gamers. Just that I use to give them hints and tell what they should and what not to do.
 
Pimpbaa said:
No cheating and no giving your opinion about games unless you have at least 15 years of gaming experience.


:lol :lol Sometimes i wish that would be a real law when i read some threads
 
Wyzdom said:
Try to play with "style". What i mean here is that i'm trying to use all that the game gives me and not being a cheap ass. Let's say your character is having 5 moves but look there's one you could only use all the time and kill everyone with it.

"We don't know what you're talking about! Honest."
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Also, welcome to 3rd Strike Online! I've actually stopped playing online as a result of this--not only Ken and Chun but overall, people are just corny pussies that love wins more than actual playing, if that makes any sense.
 
Reilly said:
I do this, but to a point. Some things in games (Like GTA:SA) would be impossible to find out about unless you had a faq/walkthrough. What I do is beat the game first, then use the faqs/walkthroughs to find the extra stuff.

Yeah, me too. I play it out until I've found everything I'm willing to, then do the FAQ.

The GTA example is what I did, also. I went looking for a while without one , first, though.
 
For playing solo, I just have the rule to enjoy the moment (which includes most of what you wrote).

When playing with friends, we'll set up all sorts of rules depending on the game and how we feel. The main reason for that is to sort of make new games out of the games we're already playing a lot of.

For example, in MK64 we might say, no jumping over the wall in Wario Stadium, or no lightning before the jump, because after a while of playing where you allow those things it becomes boring. There were even times we'd say, ok, you can't use any items, just a pure race, lets see who wins.

Same with SF3, we might say, no Supers, or no fireballs, or no special moves at all. Or only allow you to use one special move per round, you decide when to use it.

Or in GTA3 we may set our stars to max with a cheat code and time how long we can survive runing from the cops. Basically making that a game in itself.

Making rules like that can breath new life into a game you've played over and over and can actually be pretty fun.
 
Wyzdom said:
Ok i don't know if that makes us elitist. Maybe it's just love for games.
I'm curious to know about what i can your gaming honor code. I may not be in the majority of people here but when i play videogames, there's a general set of rules i came up with over the years that i am used to go by and respect. I'm actually curious to know if i'm a rare bread or we all kind of set us rules while playing.

For me it would go like this i guess:

- Never cheat to complete a game. This is an easy one i guess. To me this not only include imputing codes into a game but also to never look at a guide or ask for a friend's help or something. I don't look for strategies over the internet either. Cheating also includes using glitchs and bugs in a game to achieve stuff.

- Try to play with "style". What i mean here is that i'm trying to use all that the game gives me and not being a cheap ass. Let's say your character is having 5 moves but look there's one you could only use all the time and kill everyone with it. This little rule would make me use the 5 moves of my character instead of playing cheap. Also, there's some platformers or action games where sliding is faster than running. I feel it's tedious and boring that one is always sliding instead of running, it kinda look silly. In this case i would not slide lamely all the time when i have to go from point A to point B

- Never lie about gaming skills. Hmm, i guess i'm gonna in a minority here...

- Never save cowardly in a save anywhere game. You know those kind of "oh shit i killed ONE ennemi let's go save" type of gamer. Bullshit. I try to save when it's been a little while, when i feel i completed some section of the game.

- Never skip cut-scenes and text when it's the first play through the game. I guess it pretty much tell what it is about.


Well that's about it from the top of my head. Do you have rules/habits of play like that?
Does that makes us a bizarre breed? Those rules for me are a kind of respect i give to videogame and i think this respect comes from passion.

discuss!

I agree for the most part, but sometimes cheating is necessary if you're playing a game you don't really like, but you want to get through it so you can move on. I hate having unbeaten games on my shelf. I also agree with not saving every 5 seconds in games that let you, with the exception of gothic 2. I save even when I THINK I HEAR an enemy in that game
 
bob_arctor said:
"We don't know what you're talking about! Honest."
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Also, welcome to 3rd Strike Online! I've actually stopped playing online as a result of this--not only Ken and Chun but overall, people are just corny pussies that love wins more than actual playing, if that makes any sense.
LOL! So true.

I don't get mad because I should be good enough to get through whatever cheap, repetitive crap people try with my Ibuki or Dudley, but you're right. Too many people play just to win and make the game boring. I have the most fun having semi-serious matches with my friends where I know I can mess around and still have fun.
 
- stick with the fundamentals / bread and butter combos

- never use secret / cheat characters and stay away from top tier characters

- always play people on my level.

- style and finesse is a must

- never gloat
 
Mzo said:
LOL! So true.

I don't get mad because I should be good enough to get through whatever cheap, repetitive crap people try with my Ibuki or Dudley, but you're right. Too many people play just to win and make the game boring. I have the most fun having semi-serious matches with my friends where I know I can mess around and still have fun.

Nah, that's not true. You would have to learn the game in that way in order to combat it at will I think. It isn't in my Street Fighter DNA to remotely approach thinking in those terms. It's anathema to me. The best is seeing Makoto's online that NEVER KARAKUSA EVER. No, they just like a little thing called MK. Over and over and over.
 
I definitely have an honor code or "rules," so to speak. But the law above all laws, as somebody else said, is to have fun, so I'll bend the "rules" if it becomes necessary to have fun...

Wyzdom said:
Never cheat to complete a game.

I agree on codes...sorta on looking at guides. I will make every effort to complete a game without using a guide, and with a game that focuses on puzze solving (like Shadow of the Colossus) I will NEVER look at a guide. But if I get stuck on something really stupid or inane for a long period of time, and I'm not having fun anymore trying to figure it out, I'll find a solution on the internet for that one thing.

Also, I have no qualms about using a guide to get 100% completion after I've beaten a game for the first time.

Wyzdom said:
Try to play with "style".

eh...I'm sort of with you. This is a tricky one. If a game is easily exploited, and I've got a tough fight coming up, it's the designer's fault for giving me the easy out. BUT taking the easy out is often less fun than using all of the tools at your disposal and feeling like you really earned the victory.

Whenever I do exploit the "best" moves in a way the designers clearly didn't intend in order to win a hard fight, I'll often feel guilty and unsatisfied. I usually reload and do the fight again...unless the fight was mind-numbingly hard (and therefore interfering with my enjoyment of the game to begin with), in which case I'll win the "right way" on my next playthrough.

Wyzdom said:
Never lie about gaming skills.

:lol Hmmm...will we ever know if this is true?

I'll never lie about gaming skills, which is easy because with most games I don't have much to brag about and the people with opinions that actually matter to me are already well aware of that. :lol

Wyzdom said:
Never save cowardly in a save anywhere game.

Disagree....save anywhere is there for a reason. I am definitely a "oh shit I killed ONE enemy time to save" gamer, and I'm not ashamed of it at all. :D I HATE backtracking - it interferes with my fun, so I have no qualms with autosaving every fifteen seconds or so. ;-)

Wyzdom said:
Never skip cut-scenes and text when it's the first play through the game.

Absolutely 100% agree. It drives me INSANE when other people skip text and cut-scenes they've never seen before...I can't even stand to watch. I've actually nagged my friends about doing this before.

I'll even take it up a notch - I don't skip repeated small sequences that pop up over and over throughout the game. In Luigi's Mansion, every time he reaches for a doorknob and you see Luigi's shaking hand...I never skipped it (my wife liked to watch me play that game, and when she found out that was skippable and I simply chose not to she thought I was nuts!). For me, that's part of the designer's intended pace and rhythm of the game, and by skipping through it impatiently, you are disrupting their vision and impacting your potential enjoyment of the sections that follow.

The only time I've EVER skipped dialogue is Metal Gear Solid 2. That got really fucking ridiculous.

Fun thread, thanks. :)
 
echoshifting said:
For me, that's part of the designer's intended pace and rhythm of the game, and by skipping through it impatiently, you are disrupting their vision and impacting your potential enjoyment of the sections that follow.

Cool man. You make me feel more "normal" lol.
I should add "respect the intended pace an rhythm of the game" into my rules. I'm so like that! ;)
 
echoshifting said:
I agree on codes...sorta on looking at guides. I will make every effort to complete a game without using a guide, and with a game that focuses on puzze solving (like Shadow of the Colossus) I will NEVER look at a guide. But if I get stuck on something really stupid or inane for a long period of time, and I'm not having fun anymore trying to figure it out, I'll find a solution on the internet for that one thing.

Also, I have no qualms about using a guide to get 100% completion after I've beaten a game for the first time.
I try to do the same thing, but as soon as I pick up a FAQ for a tough puzzle, the temptation to use it takes me for the rest of that gaming session (and sometimes longer).

The only thing I'm really concerned with is enjoying the game.
 
For something like GTA, I save as often as possible but I never revert back to a save if I've died or failed a mission. Mostly because I feel if I'm re-doing a mission a ton of times then by reseting everytime I'm taking a chunk out of my stats which I like to be as accurate as possible :)

Other than that, I'd say I also avoid skipping cutscenes during a first play through in a game like MGS, and I generally don't use cheats to get further in a game's storyline.
 
I never use a strategy guide, but will occasionally go online for help if I can't figure something out. If I do resort to that, it is generally after a long time of playing and not figuring it out on my own. In an RPG for instance, it might be hours worth of game play before I resort to that.
 
Be cheap as possible in fighting games. and yeah, like someone said above, throw a lot, esp ppl who think its cheep.

always play on hard lvl in single player if possible.

restart a level/game if not done perfectly or 1st place was not gained in racing/sports games.

yeah so I dont finish a lot of single player games becuase of these rules. hah.
 
haunts said:
Be cheap as possible in fighting games. and yeah, like someone said above, throw a lot, esp ppl who think its cheep.

always play on hard lvl in single player if possible.

restart a level/game if not done perfectly or 1st place was not gained in racing/sports games.

yeah so I dont finish a lot of single player games becuase of these rules. hah.


And do you have fun??
 
haunts said:
Be cheap as possible in fighting games. and yeah, like someone said above, throw a lot, esp ppl who think its cheep.

always play on hard lvl in single player if possible.

restart a level/game if not done perfectly or 1st place was not gained in racing/sports games.

yeah so I dont finish a lot of single player games becuase of these rules. hah.

Why?
 
- I don't let a game's story interfere with my opinion of its gameplay

- I don't play games with sloppy controls

- I'm not trolling, but I don't consider RPGs "true" video games, and that's part of my elitist "code"
 
well, I throw alot because it's not actually cheap at all, but a lot of people think it is.. people who think throwing is cheap just need to understand how it works and alot of time the only way that is going to happen is to force it on them. hah.

and I like to do cheap combos and set ups in fighting games so I can win, becuase winning is fun. beyond that, a lot of times its the only way -to- win against some people.
 
haunts said:
well, I throw alot because it's not actually cheap at all, but a lot of people think it is.. people who think throwing is cheap just need to understand how it works and alot of time the only way that is going to happen is to force it on them. hah.

and I like to do cheap combos and set ups in fighting games so I can win, becuase winning is fun. beyond that, a lot of times its the only way -to- win against some people.

Can you give some examples of your cheap set-ups/combos? Just wanna know if I've run into any online (though I know we've never played each other). It's also odd how I'm a Hugo player yet still think throws are cheap. :lol I'm sure people think Gigas is cheap.
 
1. Play games for fun, even when in competition.*

2. Enjoy a game for its own merits, and do not allow myself to become cornered in by my own tastes or fixation on one particular elite game as the standard to judge all others by.

3. Don't resort to a FAQ or cheat guide until it passes beyond honest effort and threatens to spoil the fun with frustration. Usually put the game down and wait a day.

4. Don't push to rush for the end. Take the time to play with things along the way.

5. Never belittle the ability of another player or use games as an excuse for one-ups-manship. This is different from offering constructive advice.

6. Don't be a lunatic asshole or act like a racist, homophobic 15 year-old redneck, in online games - yeah, this one makes you a real Don Quixote in the modern gaming world don't it :p


*While many people put aside all "rules" in competition, in the days of yore, there was this thing called sportsmanship. Even if you happen to have naturally l33t skils, being an ass about it or using them to abuse others in the game will only result in you being very, very lonely on your throne at the top.
 
- Try to play with "style". What i mean here is that i'm trying to use all that the game gives me and not being a cheap ass. Let's say your character is having 5 moves but look there's one you could only use all the time and kill everyone with it. This little rule would make me use the 5 moves of my character instead of playing cheap. Also, there's some platformers or action games where sliding is faster than running. I feel it's tedious and boring that one is always sliding instead of running, it kinda look silly. In this case i would not slide lamely all the time when i have to go from point A to point B

- Never save cowardly in a save anywhere game. You know those kind of "oh shit i killed ONE ennemi let's go save" type of gamer. Bullshit. I try to save when it's been a little while, when i feel i completed some section of the game.

I actually consider these flaws of the game. The first one, especially. I don't think it should be up to the player to restrain himself to make a game more enjoyable.

As for the second... If I'm in a frustrating section of the game, it simply isn't enjoyable to have to dash through the same section over and over to attempt to accomplish something. Ideally, all games have good save-point pacing alongside a fairly seamless system (Halo) or effective limited saves (Hitman), but it'll never happen.
 
I've beaten Nethack and Adom legitimately, that defines my elitism

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Fucking Chun vids from major tournies are so goddamn boring
 
Tain said:
I actually consider these flaws of the game. The first one, especially. I don't think it should be up to the player to restrain himself to make a game more enjoyable.

As for the second... If I'm in a frustrating section of the game, it simply isn't enjoyable to have to dash through the same section over and over to attempt to accomplish something. Ideally, all games have good save-point pacing alongside a fairly seamless system (Halo) or effective limited saves (Hitman), but it'll never happen.

Well, i meant to play like that in the game you like, in the game you think they are well done. There is possible exploits in pretty much all existing games.

And i repeat that our "rules" should be there for fun of course. It's it's not fun for the player he's really stupid to put up some rules like that into his gaming lol
 
bob_arctor said:
Can you give some examples of your cheap set-ups/combos? Just wanna know if I've run into any online (though I know we've never played each other). It's also odd how I'm a Hugo player yet still think throws are cheap. :lol I'm sure people think Gigas is cheap.


thats the thing, i dont really consider many things "cheap". maybe its the wrong word. I jsut like to do a lot of mix ups and stay tricky. Like urien unblockables are cheap I guess, but I still think if you get hit with something and put yourslef in a postion to get destroyed like that, its your own damn fault anyway.

I just like to use strats that may appear "impossible" to get around at first to make people think a bit when they play. the point is, many people will write off a lot of shit as cheap when they just havent spent enough time thinking of a way around it.

some specific examples:

with makoto, to begginer players, you can basicly do Hayate -> Karakusa -> FP -> Hayate -> Karakusa until the end of time. To someone who dosent know you can just jump away fromt he Karakusa, they may consider it cheap.

beyond that, she has a 100% stun combo now which I guess is kind of cheap, but again, people just need to learn to stay away from her in the corner when she has meter.

Tick throws probably appear cheap to a lot of people and inescapable. You can even tick into Gigas as far as I know. (c. lp, buffer super, execute right after they recover from the blocks tun of the c.lp...or something like that..)
 
Forgive me Lord cause i have sinned :(

I have the same ''code''(sigh) as the thread-starter only:

I abused the save system in kotor, but jebus some of those bastards where tough.
 
haunts said:
thats the thing, i dont really consider many things "cheap". maybe its the wrong word. I jsut like to do a lot of mix ups and stay tricky. Like urien unblockables are cheap I guess, but I still think if you get hit with something and put yourslef in a postion to get destroyed like that, its your own damn fault anyway.

I just like to use strats that may appear "impossible" to get around at first to make people think a bit when they play. the point is, many people will write off a lot of shit as cheap when they just havent spent enough time thinking of a way around it.

True. A basic one would be Makoto Hayate>Karakusa "traps" over and over and over. I feel no pity for those that fall for that.

Edit: :lol Didn't see you added that to your post.
 
Mihail said:
- I'm not trolling, but I don't consider RPGs "true" video games, and that's part of my elitist "code"

I'm curious why you feel this way. I mean, I can appreciate the fact that you don't like RPG's, they certainly are not for everyone, but what do you mean by not a "true" video game?

I should also say that I understand you're not trying to troll, and I'm not trying to start an argument, I truely am curious on your thoughts on this, as it's not something I've heard before. I'd appreciate some insight. :)
 
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