Puzzle & Dragons |OT4| Co-op Edition: Stoning With Friends

First day pulled Minerva, which is awesome.

Second day I wasn't going to pull but then read Mantasticpad and figured my last four rolls would be good... three silver eggs later I'm up 9000 MP and a dupe Australis.

Grinded out some stones to pull today and was given Shining Dragon Swordsman. Tempted to sell, but will keep for inheritance.

Worst God Fest for me so far. Silvers should be banned! :/
 
Ducarmel said:
Used all my NA alt stones today hoping for green gala luck getting Liu Bei and Acala. Of course i did not get them because gungho knows somehow that is what I want.



Well you got the top 3 cards from Bleach REM Aizen, Ichigo, and Rukia congrats.

I would work on your dark cards and look into building an Awoken Ichigo team you got a perfect squad for him.



Subs you got are Pandora (go for awoken version), Zouh, Eschamali and Castor.
Awoken Ichigo can pair up with Pandora if you dont have enough Ichigo friends.
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Aizen and Ronove are your strongest leaders. You dont have a ronove team to build
but aizen you can fill with subs like Pandora, Eschamali, Castor, Persephone, Typhoon(go for Ana Typhoon), pretty much any dark orb making card that is dark/blue or blue/dark.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/wiki/guides/leaders/pending/aizen

Also you have the perfect Ra Dragon team. If you ever decide to buy a MP monster go for the best leader in the game. Ra Dragon / Dkali / DKali / Kanna / Awoken Isis / Ra Dragon
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Thx for the suggestions!! How exactly do the awoken evolutions work?? Looking them up, it looks like you need some characters maxed out to awaken them??
 
Negator said:
Definitely make an Aizen team. Fill it out with Eschamali x2, Typhon, and A. Persephone.

The whole team wont need to be D/B, 2 subs are sufficient. The only issue Aizen has is no HP multiplier, so if you ever get Okuni I would jam him in there.
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Thx for the team here!! Aizen was easy to evolve, so this team should be totally doable!
 
Adeptrain said:
Thx for the suggestions!! How exactly do the awoken evolutions work?? Looking them up, it looks like you need some characters maxed out to awaken them??
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You get farmable monsters (typically from Descended dungeons) which are then used to perform the awakening. You don't have to have either the base monster or the fodder at max level; some monsters need to be at advanced evolutionary stages though.
 
SystemShark said:
Is it worth it to uevo her?
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Basically a discount Kanna (or a discount Izanagi if you prefer) so she's one of the less worthless farmable bosses. If you're running like Radra or something and need a damage enhancer real bad she's a fallback substitute.




Speaking of RaDra, been working on getting the mats to uuvo him
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Gonna try to get dacho carried tomorrow through Mecha Zeus, then it's time to grab all the dumb mats to uvo moose
 
Adeptrain said:
Nice!!! Congrats! I'd love to get her, but I don't think I'm up for it yet...:/
Also, you run two accounts?!?! and both are over rank 300?!?! Wow!
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Yes! Why do you think I hate this game so much!
 
Well, my daughter wanted to roll some yesterday shooting for an Urd for her awoken hermes team. It is hard for me not to roll when someone else does in my household (I'm weak). Unfortunately, my luck caught up to me.

Three rolls
1. Mitsuki (is having that many heart orbs ever a good idea?)
2. Cyberbeast Alfecca (why do these things exist?)
3. Zuoh (dupe--not sure of the value, seems like something you would rarely want two of)

My daughter also mostly had a bad time
1. Dragon Samurai (good god, what is the point?)
2. Knight Delgado (OK, but she has nothing to do with it)
3. Cyberdragon Thuban (I get that it is likely useful somewhere, but cyberdragons and cyberbeasts seem like a shorthand for disappointment)

Either way, this is what I get for continuing to roll after having already rolled well on day two.

Also, odd question, does true damage skip status shields, or will it be reduced to 1 (assuming it isn't high enough to go over defense)?
 
Did some rolls, got some guys I've never seen before.

Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
Acala
Acala (back to back, even)
Chrono Turtle
the rest was bad stuff like grimrock, little red riding hood, and demon king something zuoh.

I really just want the Hello Kitty event to come back. That's what was here when I started.

LiQuid! said:
Yes! Why do you think I hate this game so much!
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haha
 
Aesnath said:
Also, odd question, does true damage skip status shields, or will it be reduced to 1 (assuming it isn't high enough to go over defense)?
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Status shields don't affect nuke actives. Damage shields can but I believe only a few things have low enough restrictions to stop a nuke active.

True damage, by definition, ignores defense (e.g. various Ra actives). There are nuke actives that are affected by defense and, yes, the nuke has to be higher than the target's defense value to do any real damage (e.g. Goemon).
 
congrats on myr ~

skilling her up is gonna suck.


Also despite having a rag-tag Myr team, Kanna's buff really puts in work. I can't imagine the kind of damage when everything is hypermaxed. I just wish I had an Apoc :(
 
Well, looking at my new box, I think I may try to mess around with Ronove again, just to see if I've gotten any better. Moreover, I'd feel bad not having the Kaede I just drew in a team somewhere.

I'm thinking about trying Ronove/A.Yomi/LR Maeda/Beach Metatron/Kaede. It seems like it would have a lot of TE, which has been helpful on Gremory. On the other hand, it doesn't feel like I'll be great at fixing the board. I know there are a lot of Ronove users here, any suggestions about where to start? I'm not super serious about it, but I'd like to see if it is an option for me.

Also, I've been playing R. Minerva quite a bit, and she is a weird beast. I feel like she needs an inherit due to her lackluster AS. There is a part of me that wants to put a Saria active on her (as it is awesome and I could always use more), but the team definitely needs a bind clear. Which bind clear is best? I have Green Odin, but I also could awaken Sakuya, but I haven't wanted to used the required jewels for her. I am favoring Odin (as I could then bring Minerva in on a few other teams as a bind clear, due to her typing), but I've seen suggestions that Sakuya is the optimal inherit for some reason.

Little Green Yoda said:
Status shields don't affect nuke actives. Damage shields can but I believe only a few things have low enough restrictions to stop a nuke active.

True damage, by definition, ignores defense (e.g. various Ra actives). There are nuke actives that are affected by defense and, yes, the nuke has to be higher than the target's defense value to do any real damage (e.g. Goemon).
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Thanks, that's what I was hoping for. I recently drew Ra and have been wonder just what problems he can solve.

Cosmo Clock 21 said:
my cold blackened heart no longer winces when seeing uvo materials that only require a single stage of evolution with standard materials
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That sounds like a dark place.
 
Aesnath said:
Well, looking at my new box, I think I may try to mess around with Ronove again, just to see if I've gotten any better. Moreover, I'd feel bad not having the Kaede I just drew in a team somewhere.

I'm thinking about trying Ronove/A.Yomi/LR Maeda/Beach Metatron/Kaede. It seems like it would have a lot of TE, which has been helpful on Gremory. On the other hand, it doesn't feel like I'll be great at fixing the board. I know there are a lot of Ronove users here, any suggestions about where to start? I'm not super serious about it, but I'd like to see if it is an option for me.
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For me as a relatively unskilled player, I learned over time that it helps for every sub to be able to make hearts. Even with a full team nearly hypermaxed I can still be one-shotted by many non-execution hits, so the cross is a necessity nearly every turn regardless of whether or not I hit the x144. Having an active up constantly has been super crucial. TPAs are a bonus, Rozuel and (on my team) Ryune hit like a truck with a single TPA on full activation.
 
Man if I ever roll Fujin my Noctis arena team will be unstoppable. I figured out sopdet and parvati the hard way but of course skyfall can still mess me up. Being able to just straight up say fuck off and die would be so satisfying.

Also if anyone wants to know a 3 combo with 5 darks puts Kagu into his safe zone.

Aesnath said:
I'm thinking about trying Ronove/A.Yomi/LR Maeda/Beach Metatron/Kaede. It seems like it would have a lot of TE, which has been helpful on Gremory. On the other hand, it doesn't feel like I'll be great at fixing the board. I know there are a lot of Ronove users here, any suggestions about where to start? I'm not super serious about it, but I'd like to see if it is an option for me.
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That should work ok if you trust skyfall to give you hearts. A Yomi's nice but if you can swing it Rag Drag fits the slot better and helps normalize damage in favor of green. Linthia is also a surprisingly good Ronove sub and fills those colors. If you've been farming SDR it's pretty easy to max skill one. Her + ronove gives you an activatable board that favors green. Revo Minerva might work better as a bind clear with B meta inherited (or a fairy tale girl for the hearts. The last slot I'd recommend Balboa if you have him. He fills the blue hole, his Uevo is nuts and unbindable, his killers put his damage on par with Kaede in the right cases (sopdet being the wrong case). You get a shield active in case you can't cross, or a defense break to make things easier on tanky enemies.

I'd put this together if I didn't have the optimal Ronove team (only with that you said you have or can farm):
Ronove, Linthia/Rag Drag, Keiji, Kaede, Beach Meta

Keep in mind Keiji can make parvati a pain in the ass (or devil rush a breeze) and have R. Minerva sub in with him inherited if the killer would do more harm than good. Losing the TE from Yomi might be rough at first, rock the Time Extend badge if you need to.

Ronove needs the following roles filled probably in this order:
Bind clear (no shield and you're dead)
Colors (For damage)
Heart Making (see 1, lower priority since he makes hearts on his own)

That's pretty much it, from there you can play around with actives to get the most out of the team.
 
Not a very good GF for my sub and so-so for main. I rolled 3 times, once on each part.
sub: Kameo (first on sub, not bad), evo Dragon Knight (troll gold) and a silver...
Main: Minerva (dupe, already have a hyper one), Ganesha (ok, new for main), DXQX (dupe)

My sub did okay during the Eva collab. pulling the Scheat-Shinji as the free roll and as one of my rolls throughout. He's nice on my You Yu/Ruka/Neptune teams, especially since I don't have Scheat on my sub.
cw_sasuke said:
Hah...oh there you are - i was wondering where your Progress posts went. Good that you are still enjoying the game.
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Yeah, still playing. Started playing a bit more again lately now that I'm on vacation (yay!).

Really loving those King Tans. The Myr on both of my accounts was only at level 4. With 3 King Tans and 12 Myrs (each) I was able to max skill her. Now just have to see about evo'ing her. Wasn't very consistent with my Minerva team, but once I switched over to Neptune, it was much easier for me.

I also picked up Erudora (Elder?) for both of my accounts by buying the GH magazine. (I bought it once because I wanted it and the second time later just to get the character on my sub, too.)
I guess using those "medals" with a barcode on the back to redeem the dungeon via PAD Radar is how they are getting around the no codes allowed on iOS thing?

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Anyway, she is pretty strong. By herself she gives Dragon types 1.5x ATK and 1.5x RCV plus 3.5x ATK for every Fire cross. (So 5.25x with one and18.375x with two) With a friend that is a base 2.25x ATK and 2.25x RCV for Dragon types and effectively 27.5x ATK with one fire cross and 337x ATK with 2 fire crosses. Tsubaki's double dragon killer awakenings make her really strong in the party.
 
SecretMoblin said:
For me as a relatively unskilled player, I learned over time that it helps for every sub to be able to make hearts. Even with a full team nearly hypermaxed I can still be one-shotted by many non-execution hits, so the cross is a necessity nearly every turn regardless of whether or not I hit the x144. Having an active up constantly has been super crucial. TPAs are a bonus, Rozuel and (on my team) Ryune hit like a truck with a single TPA on full activation.
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Bladelaw said:
Man if I ever roll Fujin my Noctis arena team will be unstoppable. I figured out sopdet and parvati the hard way but of course skyfall can still mess me up. Being able to just straight up say fuck off and die would be so satisfying.

Also if anyone wants to know a 3 combo with 5 darks puts Kagu into his safe zone.



That should work ok if you trust skyfall to give you hearts. A Yomi's nice but if you can swing it Rag Drag fits the slot better and helps normalize damage in favor of green. Linthia is also a surprisingly good Ronove sub and fills those colors. If you've been farming SDR it's pretty easy to max skill one. Her + ronove gives you an activatable board that favors green. Revo Minerva might work better as a bind clear with B meta inherited (or a fairy tale girl for the hearts. The last slot I'd recommend Balboa if you have him. He fills the blue hole, his Uevo is nuts and unbindable, his killers put his damage on par with Kaede in the right cases (sopdet being the wrong case). You get a shield active in case you can't cross, or a defense break to make things easier on tanky enemies.

I'd put this together if I didn't have the optimal Ronove team (only with that you said you have or can farm):
Ronove, Linthia/Rag Drag, Keiji, Kaede, Beach Meta

Keep in mind Keiji can make parvati a pain in the ass (or devil rush a breeze) and have R. Minerva sub in with him inherited if the killer would do more harm than good. Losing the TE from Yomi might be rough at first, rock the Time Extend badge if you need to.

Ronove needs the following roles filled probably in this order:
Bind clear (no shield and you're dead)
Colors (For damage)
Heart Making (see 1, lower priority since he makes hearts on his own)

That's pretty much it, from there you can play around with actives to get the most out of the team.
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Thanks to both of you for your perspectives. I actually haven't been able to beat Linthia yet, although I suspect I'm getting close with either gremory or minerva. As for RagDragon, I am a long way off from spending MP on this team, although I get why he is ideal. I just want to see if I can even use it. I have a balboa (and an Awoken Orochi), but didn't really think of using it in this context.

@Moblin: I have found that the "always makes hearts" thing is important on Gremory, but it seems like you want more board changes for Ronove, as he needs hearts and three colors to do anything. Also, the whole bind clear business. As an aside, how many TEs do you have on your team? How consistently are you able to get the cross plus three colors? Like, in other words, how good do I have to be to even consider something like Ronove? At this point, with Gremory and about four seconds extra, I can consistently cross, dark match, and maybe one other. After a board change, I can usually get a row (assuming enough orbs) or a couple of TPAs. I just never seem to have enough room and time to get more than a couple of things going with a heart cross.
 
My team right now, almost all hypermaxed, is

Ronove/Rozuel/Sumire/Ryune/Flex, which is either Verdandi or Perseus if I need full skill bind resist.

So, paired with another Ronove it's 8 TE with Verdandi or 9 with Perseus. I have 4 DKalis but none max skilled and with my current team the two hastes ensure I can basically always get the shield. Rozuel has the soft bind clear which works in a pinch, even though it can be tough to also do the cross.

I've been able to clear most content with that team. I'm sitting on ~400k MP but don't want to spend it on anything.

Regarding skill, I fully admit that often I'm at the mercy of skyfall, but when it rains it pours and that multiplier is no joke.
 
Aesnath said:
Thanks to both of you for your perspectives. I actually haven't been able to beat Linthia yet, although I suspect I'm getting close with either gremory or minerva. As for RagDragon, I am a long way off from spending MP on this team, although I get why he is ideal. I just want to see if I can even use it. I have a balboa (and an Awoken Orochi), but didn't really think of using it in this context.

@Moblin: I have found that the "always makes hearts" thing is important on Gremory, but it seems like you want more board changes for Ronove, as he needs hearts and three colors to do anything. Also, the whole bind clear business. As an aside, how many TEs do you have on your team? How consistently are you able to get the cross plus three colors? Like, in other words, how good do I have to be to even consider something like Ronove? At this point, with Gremory and about four seconds extra, I can consistently cross, dark match, and maybe one other. After a board change, I can usually get a row (assuming enough orbs) or a couple of TPAs. I just never seem to have enough room and time to get more than a couple of things going with a heart cross.
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The board changes aren't all that important. It's extremely rare to have a board with less than 3 colors. It's nice to have one for a burst but it's not a hard requirement like a bind clear is.
 
Is the point of the fruit dragons "gift" basically just a 3k MP gift?

I reflexively keep them because you can't farm them but they are more trash than most REM silvers.
 
Hey guys, the PAD itch is now back after hearing my friend talking about it the other day.

I'm looking to work on making a solid team as Horus hasn't been feeling really rewarding - especially after looking at some of the newer monsters out there. I managed to figure out how to do the auto syncing thing, so here is my PADHerder: https://www.padherder.com/user/ppejovski/

When I did play, I used to run Lucifer with Lucifer to run some of the descended dungeons and then started using Horus for a bit. I currently have 25 stones to use. Given what I currently have in the box, is there anything decent to run with?

Outside of the team: what should be my focus currently with my stamina? The farthest I've gotten is Junos Island and Divine Queen's Sleepless Castle on normal and Mechdragons' Massive Fortress and Mythic Stone Dragon Cave on technical.

I could really use some friends.. sometimes I have to run challenge mode because all my current friends are inactive or already used. My ID is: 338,951,210.
 
Fruit Dragon value tanked fast once pantheon cards started getting more rows. If I remember correctly they were one of the first cards to have double rows.

Maybe they are still worth keeping as a poverty sub for a heart cross team if you badly needed a slot to fill.
 
SecretMoblin said:
Is the point of the fruit dragons "gift" basically just a 3k MP gift?

I reflexively keep them because you can't farm them but they are more trash than most REM silvers.
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I used to sell them but now I have 1 of each, and might keep more, in case GungHo ever does more of the "<X stars gets huge boost" dungeons like they had recently. I cleared the last ones easy with my Thoria team because 4 of the team were 6* and under but who knows what the future could bring.

Abandond said:
Hey guys, the PAD itch is now back after hearing my friend talking about it the other day.

I'm looking to work on making a solid team as Horus hasn't been feeling really rewarding - especially after looking at some of the newer monsters out there. I managed to figure out how to do the auto syncing thing, so here is my PADHerder: https://www.padherder.com/user/ppejovski/

When I did play, I used to run Lucifer with Lucifer to run some of the descended dungeons and then started using Horus for a bit. I currently have 25 stones to use. Given what I currently have in the box, is there anything decent to run with?

Outside of the team: what should be my focus currently with my stamina? The farthest I've gotten is Junos Island and Divine Queen's Sleepless Castle on normal and Mechdragons' Massive Fortress and Mythic Stone Dragon Cave on technical.

I could really use some friends.. sometimes I have to run challenge mode because all my current friends are inactive or already used. My ID is: 338,951,210.
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Reincarnated Parvati is something to work towards long term. 100x at 8 connected hearts is really easy to hit and you always heal to full. Reincarnated Shiva is also a recent addition.

Have you reached King of the Gods yet in Normals? I can't remember the order they appear in. Once you get there you can play it for quite a while since you will rank up before stam runs out, expecially if it's half stam or 1.5x EXP. At this rank the thing you need most IMO is more ranks so you have more stam and team cost. If you can clear Monday dungeon you will fly through the ranks and also make sure you find a friend with a uevo Ganesha when you run the Experience of a Lifetime dungeon that come up now and again for extra EXP.
 
Brian Griffin said:
I used to sell them but now I have 1 of each, and might keep more, in case GungHo ever does more of the "<X stars gets huge boost" dungeons like they had recently. I cleared the last ones easy with my Thoria team because 4 of the team were 6* and under but who knows what the future could bring.


Reincarnated Parvati is something to work towards long term. 100x at 8 connected hearts is really easy to hit and you always heal to full. Reincarnated Shiva is also a recent addition.

Have you reached King of the Gods yet in Normals? I can't remember the order they appear in. Once you get there you can play it for quite a while since you will rank up before stam runs out, expecially if it's half stam or 1.5x EXP. At this rank the thing you need most IMO is more ranks so you have more stam and team cost. If you can clear Monday dungeon you will fly through the ranks and also make sure you find a friend with a uevo Ganesha when you run the Experience of a Lifetime dungeon that come up now and again for extra EXP.
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Perfect! Will work on my Parvati. I think I even have a good amount of the material for the two characters she requires (Cauch and Cu Cu).

Any suggestions for her subs?

I do not have King of the Gods yet, I'm at the dungeon just before it. I'll work on finishing that up.

What would be the best way to find some friends with specific leaders?
 
Abandond said:
Perfect! Will work on my Parvati. I think I even have a good amount of the material for the two characters she requires (Cauch and Cu Cu).

Any suggestions for her subs?

I do not have King of the Gods yet, I'm at the dungeon just before it. I'll work on finishing that up.

What would be the best way to find some friends with specific leaders?
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Any green cards that make wood/hearts and have rows. Ishida Mitsunari's G/G uevo is top tier for this and you have him as well. His skill up is the green dog from Green Earth's Dimension Dragon dungeon which is also up now for the next few days.

If you have friend slots available in your list the game will try to show you other players with your same leader that aren't your friends yet when you go to start a dungeon. Other option is to ask here and maybe BF someone who will always have a leader you want available. I don't have Parvati but I have other stuff and sent you and invite.

These are my relevant leaders and are all maxed. Some have latents on them.

REvo Lakshmi (water version of REvo Parvati)
Awoken Pandora
Krishna
Sumire
Awoken Thor

Thor is not relevant in high end stuff anymore but could pair with your Saria, Venus, and Valk to make a decent tank team for King of Gods farming. Saria + Valk + Venus + Thor will one shot Zeus at the end once you get their awakenings going. If you get some more decent light subs Thoria can take you through most descended dungeons that have been around for a while.
 
What are these 99 stamina guerilla dungeons about on jp server.

Gremory buff announced
Code: 
    +400 HP
    +2 Dark (Christmas: Fire) Row Enhance & Bind Heal
    Dark LS now support God, Christmas LS now support Balanced
Well its settled, Yomi dragon will be my next mp card purchase.


Cosmo Clock 21 said:
They're strictly for getting mats for awakenings. The guerillas are organized per pantheon.
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free stone welcomed.
 
Ducarmel said:
What are these 99 stamina guerilla dungeons about on jp server.

Gremory buff announced
Code: 
    +400 HP
    +2 Dark (Christmas: Fire) Row Enhance & Bind Heal
    Dark LS now support God, Christmas LS now support Balanced
Well its settled, Yomi dragon will be my next mp card purchase.



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Great, now I want Gremory even more :(
 
So with the new buffs, Yomidragon basically slaughters Plum in terms of desirability as a Gremory sub, right? I mean, her skill is up faster and she's got some offensive awakenings, but those don't make up for Yomidragon's advantages, do they?
 
W-00 said:
So with the new buffs, Yomidragon basically slaughters Plum in terms of desirability as a Gremory sub, right? I mean, her skill is up faster and she's got some offensive awakenings, but those don't make up for Yomidragon's advantages, do they?
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If you had to pick one I'd get Yomidragon at this point. Both are superb subs for her though. The almost haste system you can get is huge.
 
Well I didn't expect Yomidra would be my next MP purchase. Figured it'd be NepDra or a puppet girl for cheese teams. I'll see how Gremory does in JP before I make any decisions. She's already pretty rad, so if she shoots to the top of the tier list I'll invest in Yomidra, especially since he'd be a fun lead.
 
dragon killer tsubaki is so funny vs. myr

you think you have no damage with three lil red matches on Krishna... then she dies.


also I need about 18 yellow jewels and have 23 dark at the moment :(
 
Did anybody manage to pull Yamamoto and happens to have a couple dragon kill Tsubakis?

I kinda want to test a SDR farm build but I don't want to invest the latents if it turns into a bust.

The plan is pretty simple:
Team 1:
Yamamoto
Tsubaki (Sado/Vaan inherit)
Tsubaki (Sado/Vaan)
Rodin
Awoken Cao Cao

Team 2:
Yamamoto
Tsubaki (Sado/Vaan/Laila)
Tsubaki (Sado/Vaan/Laila)
Short cooldown grodin inherit (Rodin Tamazo for bonus points)
Yamato

Floor 1: P1: Rodin baits Nordis bind, Tsubaki kill
Floor 2: P2: Tsubaki kill
Floor 3: P1: Rodin, Yamamoto kill
Floor 4: P2: Grodin, Tsubaki kill
Floor 5: P1: Awoken Cao Cao, Tsubaki kill
Floor 6: P2: Yamamoto, Yamato kill (Tsubaki destroys Z8 through shield)

I'm still working out the right number of skill ups and skill boosts but I'm pretty sure Sado/Vaan & Tsubaki need to be max skilled. Laila probably doesn't but if not then Tsubaki should be. In the event of an invade stall and heal unless you have SDR's where appropriate.
 
Bladelaw said:
If you had to pick one I'd get Yomidragon at this point. Both are superb subs for her though. The almost haste system you can get is huge.
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Good to know I was right, even though I can't afford either of them right now. By the time my alt (the account that has Gremory) can afford one, it will probably be time for Plum to get her own power-up.

Or, I suppose I could finally stop dilly-dallying, inherit a Ra on ALB, and get to farming. But even if I did that, it would only give my alt two viable Gremory subs (Akechi and the one I'd buy). On the other hand, my main, which does not have Gremory, has two Akechis and four Pandoras. Because of course that's the way things go in PAD-land.
 
Tried out Absolute Dragon Realm for the first time. First on Mythical Plus which took about 3-4 tries. I tried it with my new Elder? team and was going along pretty well until Ilsix. I got him down under his resolve barrier very nicely and took his first hit, but then my Minervas blocked his jammer drops and he hit me again which killed me.

After adjusting and switching over to my Neptune team I was able to clear it.

Then I tried it on Annihilation and cleared it on my 2nd try. I had to adjust to the stronger attacks and higher HP of the higher difficulty. Used Orochi on the first form of Z8 and then took out the normal Z8 once my binds wore off.

My sub team (in pic) is: Neptune/Rukia/Alrescha/Ryune/Shinji-Scheat
Main: Neptune/Orochi/Scheat/Scheat/Ryune

Don't really have many assists on: Rukia with I&I (2 turn 2x water/dark enhance), Alrescha with Baggi Cat (6 turn 30% damage reduction) and Orochi with Kurapika(4 turn delay)

Rukia and Alrescha give me 100% SBR between the two of them, which is nice since Orochi/Scheat/Ryune don't have any.
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b33r said:
Great, now I want Gremory even more :(
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I wasted all of my stones across the three day holiday GFE, rolled a bunch of dupes... got Asteroth who was new and then got Gremory on the last day.

Not sure how I feel about her even after the buffs. I don't have the right subs to really make her work. I have Akechi and Pandora but that's about the depth of my box... I don't have any dark/heart makers. Myr will still be more consistent and the subs I have are much stronger.
 
J0dy77 said:
I wasted all of my stones across the three day holiday GFE, rolled a bunch of dupes... got Asteroth who was new and then got Gremory on the last day.

Not sure how I feel about her even after the buffs. I don't have the right subs to really make her work. I have Akechi and Pandora but that's about the depth of my box... I don't have any dark/heart makers. Myr will still be more consistent and the subs I have are much stronger.
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I have plum and Yomi Dragon, 2 akechis, Anaphon, etc... I just need Gremory. Some day.
 
Since I am interested in all things Gremory, I have been thinking about what the buffs mean.

First off, from what I've seen around, there is a common notion that one really wants about 10 row enhances and that, after that, you should look for OEs. I'm not sure why that is, but, if that is the case, the Gremory buff means that OEs are a more prized awakening than they were before. After the buff, there won't be a solid justification for DD Akechi on Gremory. The HP and bind clear are nice as well, but you need a lot of hearts for a bind clear and a cross. I feel like the bind clear just makes her a better cleric sub on other teams.

As for the leaderskill, Yomi dragon is the obvious choice. However, I doubt it is as clear a choice as everyone seems to think at this point, especially vs. Plum. While both are certainly strong inclusions, I have a suspicion that Plum may actually be a bit better overall, especially in multiples. In Yomi's favor, he's unbindable, has an OE, has an extra TE, an extra skill boost, and his active skill has more board impact. That's a lot of stuff. In Plum's favor, her active skill is two turns quicker to cool down, has a row, a TPA, and a Killer. While I'm not an expert, I have been playing Gremory for several weeks now and three hearts, three dark fixes most fixable boards. There are times where having an extra heart makes a huge difference, but a lot of the time if 3/3 wouldn't get it, neither would 4/4 (e.g. enemy changed the board). I also don't think the 2 turn CD difference can be understated either, especially on a haste active. My favorite feature of YomiDra is that he is unbindable, however, most binds aren't a large issue for Gremory (some of those 10 turn suckers though...). If anything, YomiDra is closer to A. Pandora, certainly not a bad thing, but usually not run in multiples. Plum occupies an important niche in that she is the fastest ideal orb maker with haste. YomiDra doesn't change that (even though he is fantastic). On the other hand, YomiDra is a capable leader on his own, which means there is added value outside of the Gremory team. Either way, this means I am likely waiting a while before making an MP purchase for Gremory.

I'm wondering who else this opens up. Off the top of my head, Eschamali is the OE queen, but she is saddled with a heartbreaking active. Awoken Haku also might have some use, but I'm not sure it is worth the trouble. I guess Dark Metatron fits, but additional spike and damage shield seem underwhelming.

Overall, I'm not sure that this actually changes much for Gremory. I would have likely preferred the original buff, as damage is underwhelming sometimes on non-AS turns. Just my two cents.
 
Cosmo Clock 21 said:
Speaking of RaDra, been working on getting the mats to uuvo him


Gonna try to get dacho carried tomorrow through Mecha Zeus, then it's time to grab all the dumb mats to uvo moose
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I was trying to do some team planning over the holiday break and have been working on the mats as well. It's going to take me a long time and I still have to buy Ra Dra but I'm pretty sure I'll take the plunge. I don't have the ideal team but should have enough to get by.

The best subs I could come up with were 2x D.Kali, Reincarnated Susano (gets God type back) and Water Sherias. I'll have 3 board changers and the team will be bind immune with the exception of Sherias. I'll inherit 2.5x god attack on Ra Dra and should be good to go.

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I have plum and Yomi Dragon, 2 akechis, Anaphon, etc... I just need Gremory. Some day.
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Forgot that I could buy Yomi Dragon as a potential sub. That might make her worthwhile but he doesn't have the best awakenings for this team. Not sure I want to burn 300kmp on a sub for a lesser team. Although, Akechi, Pandora, YomiDra, and Izanami sounds like a solid team. Izanami could help with the lesser damage shield.

Decisions... decisions...
 
J0dy77 said:
I was trying to do some team planning over the holiday break and have been working on the mats as well. It's going to take me a long time and I still have to buy Ra Dra but I'm pretty sure I'll take the plunge. I don't have the ideal team but should have enough to get by.

The best subs I could come up with were 2x D.Kali, Reincarnated Susano (gets God type back) and Water Sherias. I'll have 3 board changers and the team will be bind immune with the exception of Sherias. I'll inherit 2.5x god attack on Ra Dra and should be good to go.
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I don't think Sherias is good on Ra=Dragon since you're denying yourself full leader skill activation by using his active.

Assuming you don't have Isis. I've found Khepri to be a great sub due to good awakenings and the active can help you bust through those high combo shield floors that have been showing up recently. The new Balboa uvo that dropped on JP recently is pretty useful too.
 
J0dy77 said:
Forgot that I could buy Yomi Dragon as a potential sub. That might make her worthwhile but he doesn't have the best awakenings for this team. Not sure I want to burn 300kmp on a sub for a lesser team. Although, Akechi, Pandora, YomiDra, and Izanami sounds like a solid team. Izanami could help with the lesser damage shield.

Decisions... decisions...
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That's why Gremory has 2 more rows to pick up the slack of her new god type sub pool and devil subs that don't have rows.
 
W-00 said:
Good to know I was right, even though I can't afford either of them right now. By the time my alt (the account that has Gremory) can afford one, it will probably be time for Plum to get her own power-up.
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There's still a solid argument for Plum (see below) but I think unbindable bind clear is a huge thing to have even if leads are unbindable.

Aesnath said:
...Just my two cents.
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You're not wrong. That's the same debate that happens with Anaphon teams. The best answer is "Both" but obvious dumping 600k mp into one team is a big ask. I think Yomidragon wins because she's unbindable and has value on many teams (and her Uuvo is pretty good too), but you can't go wrong with either.

J0dy77 said:
Decisions... decisions...
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I'm with Cosmo, I'd take Khepri over Sherias. Full unbindability in all colors is one of the main strengths of a Ra Dragon team. Once we get Balboa's Uvo and I roll Fujin I'll be running him in the traditional Isis slot. With Fujin inherited somewhere Sopdet can eat a dick.

Before I roll Fujin I'll be running: Ra Dragon (Roots), Dkali, Dkali, Ariel (Facet), Isis (Indra)
After I'll be running: Ra Dragon (Facet), Dkali, Dkali, Ariel (Fujin), Balboa

I think that "after" team will be pretty rad. It's missing Kanna but Ariel's not that far behind and still the hardest hitting pronger I have on the team. Fujin resolves the "killer" problem that currently makes sopdet a nightmare and parvati a slog, Balboa handles predras and gives a shield that makes Kali tankable. Without more inherits Hephastus Dragon is the only thing that gives me pause
 
I have all the ingredients of a "perfect" Ra Dragon team (2 DKali/Isis/Kanna) but I don't trust my abilities enough to pull off the combos. I hope whoever finally eclipses him is fun to play.
 
SecretMoblin said:
I have all the ingredients of a "perfect" Ra Dragon team (2 DKali/Isis/Kanna) but I don't trust my abilities enough to pull off the combos. I hope whoever finally eclipses him is fun to play.
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Have you tried putting the team together? I find the amount of move time on the team is extremely forgiving and really helps you figure out how to "combo out" a board. When I first tried Ra Dragon I found the playstyle exhausting because I was always trying to match out everything by color instead of just trying to match everything. I know it sounds bad but really just going from one side of the board to the other the board kind of solves itself as you go. If you don't have a Ra Dragon I wouldn't recommend the purchase until you feel more comfortable but I'd still keep the option open if you're looking for reliable partners on some extreme content like Arena 3 or Coliseum (whenever we get that).

I'm betting/praying the 1/9 maintenance will have the Ra Dragon Uvo. I was really hoping to pick up Kanna in the 5x GF but no luck there so I'm going to soldier on with Ariel and just take the HP loss vs Kanna.

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In JP I've been playing through the current challenge dungeons with probably the most ham fisted ReiMyr team I can make.
ReiMyr, Mito, Ilumina, Meri, Sephiroth, ReiMyr. 40% SBR and almost no usable active skills (pretty much every active kills my boards). I'm REALLY considering dumping my free MP on Rag Dragon just so I have a sane pick on this team. Like what does a ReiMyr team even look like? Is this the first team where Red Chester might actually work as a strong (not optimal) sub? He clears board trash into hearts which is actually useful while not removing good orbs, he has 3 SBR so you can use subs like Sephiroth and Mito, he covers fire and has a bunch of utility in his awakenings. His stats are garbage but Rags and Seph cover that gap pretty well.

Or would the standard Ronove team subbing Paimon for Kaede cut it as a "best" composition?
ReiMyr, Rag, Paimon, Paimon, Rozuel?

All that said I'm still crushing content with this bullshit. The only time I lose is when I get skill bound, then bound (so mito can't unbind thus losing colors) or user error.
 
Cosmo Clock 21 said:
I don't think Sherias is good on Ra=Dragon since you're denying yourself full leader skill activation by using his active.

Assuming you don't have Isis. I've found Khepri to be a great sub due to good awakenings and the active can help you bust through those high combo shield floors that have been showing up recently. The new Balboa uvo that dropped on JP recently is pretty useful too.
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No clue how I completely overlooked his active. I just made the assumption that it was the same as Sherias roots. I'll have to look elswhere and Balboa may be that better fit like you said. Isis has eluded me for so long. She's becoming my white whale. I've wanted her since her days as a top tier lead with that insane 9x three color active.

Edit: Completely missed that Balboa announcement and he's exactly what I needed to cover the Blue and Green colors and he's bind immune to boot. Now I can go flex with the last spot and can throw Lightning in there. I couldn't find a way to get her in before and still cover water/wood. Bonus effect for me is that I already have Balboa max skilled.

Thanks Pad GAF <3
 
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