He picked her twice? Ooooh, optimism rising...
That was because Gremory's original "buff" made her too strong to hit under Sopdet's damage absorb in Arena, genuinely reducing her usefulness. Therefore, it was viewed as a nerf, not a buff.
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He picked her twice? Ooooh, optimism rising...
That was because Gremory's original "buff" made her too strong to hit under Sopdet's damage absorb in Arena, genuinely reducing her usefulness. Therefore, it was viewed as a nerf, not a buff.
Yeah, not in the way that most people get under the absorb, no cross, active and row. Cross plus match is just asking for skyfall to screw you.
Her current buffs are OK, but basically translate to more damage on kill-boards, easier time dealing with binds, and the addition of one, maybe two, solid subs. None of these areas was really something Gremory had an issue with. Damage on non-active turns, however, is a real issue.
The more I think about it, the saltier I get.
Dr_LawyerCop
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Once you get to hard content like Arena, you're not going to be killing many boards without an active. That's why the hastes are so important. Mostly you should be looking at it as a time to shield until you have an active to clear. I'm okay either way with the buffs, what I think is dumb is Sopdet in general and having to balance teams around one terrible spawn. At least there's that new card that removes damage absorbs, so hopefully stuff like that isn't a big deal going forward.
Well, OK, that's pretty true of the stuff I can tackle now. However, extra damage on a kill board was definitely not an issue for Gremory. Rows just add to something she is already really good at. Damage on non-active turns would have at least been useful when you are trying to work something under a resolve or the like, without blowing it up.
And that damage absorb thing, it is like a 6* GFE--not something we are all guaranteed to see.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
I saw a screenshot where someone killed MAthena using a Blue Mask as a sub because it had that cards skill up, so there's some occasions where that will work. Mostly I'm just hoping whales put it on their leads.
I think its Super King Metal Dragon
http://pad.skyozora.com/news/「アザゼル降臨！(メタドラチャレンジ)」登場＆特別活動實施！
but i cant test it right now i have none
http://pad.skyozora.com/news/「アザゼル降臨！(メタドラチャレンジ)」登場＆特別活動實施！
but i cant test it right now i have none
Yep that was it, thanks.
CountAntonius
Member
Revo Indra paired with Revo Vitra might be interesting.
CountAntonius
Member
Finally a team for Satsuki.
I finally cleared Takeminakata for the first time. I needed one copy for that Amaterasu evolution, so that's cool to finally have.
I think I have the pieces to do the one for Kushinidahime as well, but I don't understand how you'd hit the max combo for her ability without any skyfall. How's that done?
I think I have the pieces to do the one for Kushinidahime as well, but I don't understand how you'd hit the max combo for her ability without any skyfall. How's that done?
Thought I'd empty out my stones and maybe snag an Ilm. Pretty middling pulls overall but at least only 1 dupe among both accts.
main: blue cyberdragon, gabriel, fuu, LZL, dragonette
alt: anubis, troll gold red dude with the meatball (first meatball!), riding hood (dupe), leeza
Reincarnated Anubis seems like one of those OP leaders I'll never be good at.
main: blue cyberdragon, gabriel, fuu, LZL, dragonette
alt: anubis, troll gold red dude with the meatball (first meatball!), riding hood (dupe), leeza
Reincarnated Anubis seems like one of those OP leaders I'll never be good at.
Main kundali
Alt D.meta
That was all
Didn't want to further risk of getting Egyptian pantheon
I really want her on my alt
Alt D.meta
That was all
Didn't want to further risk of getting Egyptian pantheon
Jealous
I really want her on my alt
smbu2000
Member
I'm hoping Ryune gets a SBR. The lack of one really hurts, especially since other water cards like Scheat also lack SBRs.
I only pulled once today and got the 5 star Sherias on my iPad. My gf pulled a silver and a non-GFE gold egg.
I'll pull again on iPad and pull on my main during the second half of the GF.
No, it's the standard 5 stones. It's only the GFEs that are boosted though, none of the regular pantheons. Pulling on the GF also gives you a bonus Honorin with 30 plus eggs on in your mailbox. That is in addition to the 40 plus eggs that come on your pulls.
I only pulled once today and got the 5 star Sherias on my iPad. My gf pulled a silver and a non-GFE gold egg.
I'll pull again on iPad and pull on my main during the second half of the GF.
I'm super curious to know what YamaP is planning for Ryune. I'm hoping for something like this in order to make her a little more with the current meta:
I suspect that the leader skill won't cut it. While it isn't overpowered or anything, they seem to be pretty careful about giving bonuses to all stats. Moreover, 4x to both HP and RCV isn't something they've done very often, and it is usually with a fairly large drawback (e.g. can't match 3). Additionally, have they ever taken away functionality with a LS? I know they change on evo quite a bit, but I suspect if she doesn't get a new evo, you're going to be stuck with some variant of plus damage on active skill use.
I'll say the awakenings seem pretty reasonable.
GF was mostly a bust. Lots of GFE's but all dupes. I did get the extra Horus so I can make a dumb Serket team. Also got my 11th Ra. 3rd Tsubaki, 6th Sumire, 4th,5th, and 6th Ronia, 4th Zuoh etc...
No 6*'s which was the real bummer. I was hoping for just about anyone. I could use any of the featured 6*. Oh well done IAP till heroine. Possibly Voltron... Please help.
No 6*'s which was the real bummer. I was hoping for just about anyone. I could use any of the featured 6*. Oh well done IAP till heroine. Possibly Voltron... Please help.
SecretMoblin
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Not pulling this GF because I'm not really desperate but I'm sitting on 50 stones long after I stopped IAP so I should have a nice cushion for heroines.
Kinda sad how reliant the game is on 6*s... several of my teams would have a tremendous boost from a dupe Kanna or Ilm.
Kinda sad how reliant the game is on 6*s... several of my teams would have a tremendous boost from a dupe Kanna or Ilm.
Oh how I wish I did this. Stupid sexy NY Kanna.
I'm up to 5 stones... I should have enough for one Heroine pull whenever it comes around.
Count me among the ones sitting this Godfest out. Easy choice, since the GFE are broken up annoyingly, my main is only missing Horus from Egyptian 1, all my alt could really use from it is Anubis, and both accounts could only really use one card from the Chnese gods (Leilan and Haku for my main and alt, respectively). And #1 on the list of "How to avoid being a whale in PAD" is "Don't roll for a single card!"
I almost wish that I was tempted to roll. Not rolling is boring. But wasting stones would be more painful in the long run, since it would mean fewer shots at Meri. So far I'm at 87 stones on my alt and 127 on my main (er, I will be, once I burn the exp of a lifetime to get more stamina for SSTD tonight).
I almost wish that I was tempted to roll. Not rolling is boring. But wasting stones would be more painful in the long run, since it would mean fewer shots at Meri. So far I'm at 87 stones on my alt and 127 on my main (er, I will be, once I burn the exp of a lifetime to get more stamina for SSTD tonight).
I've started looking at IAPing as a form of travel cost. Really, this game makes my commute to and from work much better. I'm still having to go through some mental gymnastics not to feel bad spending money on the game, but I spent more on magic cards when I was actively playing, with about as much to show.
As a result, I'm going to take three rolls tomorrow and then IAP some rolls for voltron (if it doesnt' suck) and/or heroine.
As a result, I'm going to take three rolls tomorrow and then IAP some rolls for voltron (if it doesnt' suck) and/or heroine.
Oh how I wish I did this. Stupid sexy NY Kanna.
I'm up to 5 stones... I should have enough for one Heroine pull whenever it comes around.
I luckily have both dark and light Kanna so no reason to chase NY Kanna for me.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
I'm at about 50 stones on both accounts after spending all of them on Bleech. It really is amazing how they add up if you just avoid pulling. This GF has nothing for me except 6* GFE and NYE REM only has Kanna. Should be pretty easy to avoid pulling until heroines. Still hope it comes pretty soon because once I crack and roll once or twice all these stones will vanish.
SecretMoblin
Member
What subs are good for Meri assuming I neglected to collect a bunch of Toshiros a few months ago? I know Noah Dragon and Zeus Mercury have the Zeus-Dios equivalent skill but Noah Dragon is out of reach for me and Zeus Mercury is a trash sub at the moment.
Normal water-makers like Blonia/Ryune/Skuld/etc.? I can't imagine all the JP players who use her just have 4 max-skilled Toshiros handy...
Normal water-makers like Blonia/Ryune/Skuld/etc.? I can't imagine all the JP players who use her just have 4 max-skilled Toshiros handy...
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
P.S. all coin dungeons currently only cost five coins in JP. This includes Tama Village
That's pretty much what I'm planning to do if I'm lucky enough to get her. Also, her leader skill is powerful enough that short-cooldown single-row changers like Sharon and Sadalmelik will be useful. My team on my main would, for example, look something like Meri/Ryune/Summurd/Andromeda/Andromeda. If Ryune gets an SBR as part of her buff, I'd probably switch out an Andromeda for Sharon.
DBreakfast
Member
Without Toshiros, there's really no reason to use Meri over ALB. The whole appeal of Meri is that she does the ALB thing, but without skyfalls slowing things down. If you're not able to make those full blue boards though, you're going to have to slow down to make sure you create proper rows and you're going to have other orbs floating around making combos. It'd be faster and easier to just pop a Zeus Dios on an ALB team and eat the potential skyfalls.
If you managed to roll Meri and didn't have an ALB, then you could try to get away with stuff like double orb-changers and bicolor boards changes. That would be slower than using ALB or Meri w/Toshiros, but still probably better than a lot of other options. Blonia and Awoken Hermes would probably be the best subs. Scheat's active would be really good too, but only as an inherit. For inheritance bases, Blodin and Sarasvati seem like the best options, since they have relevant awakenings, 6 turn skills, and 4/3 SBs.
That's what I use for my main Meri team. I swap out Gabriel for Sumire for fingers or all attacks required dungeons.
She doesn't need an active and 1 row will kill almost anything. With no skyfall, damage control is easy. Put a shield or inherit one on this team for arena 1, for DQ Hera. You could use a bind clear for arena as well, though I don't run one. She heals to full with 3 hearts. My Bmyr team is safer, but this team is so much faster that I use it the most. One shotting either Kali is easy.
You can pair with new nepdragon for more hp and an answer to predras, but that team is way more orb hungry. I can usually get through challenge dungeons to about floor 7 to 9 depending and then use Bmyr for the ones she can't clear.
She is a very good, very fast, very easy farm lead that can also clear about 95% off the game. Also makes combo shields easy with her active.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
On the plus side, we will be well stocked for the vampire apocalypse
(I played the courtesy roll game and got 3/4 silvers across three accounts)
(I played the courtesy roll game and got 3/4 silvers across three accounts)
CountAntonius
Member
Mei Meix2(dupes)
Leilain(dupe)
Ronove
Venus
3 Silvers.
Not bad since I was rolling mostly for MP fodder.
Leilain(dupe)
Ronove
Venus
3 Silvers.
Not bad since I was rolling mostly for MP fodder.
smbu2000
Member
Usually when it's only GFE rates that are boosted, then it seems like it's easy to get garbage.
I've pulled 3 times on each of mine (once in the first half and twice in the second half)
On my sub (iPad), I've pulled a silver, a non-GFE gold Kraken Rider, and Sherias (5* GFE),.
On my main (iPhone), I've pulled a silver, a non-GFE gold (Shedar ) and Dantalion (6* GFE dupe).
My gf also pulled 3 times and got a silver, a non-GFE gold and she also pulled Dantalion.
Looking at the positive of this hot mess of a GF in JP:
- It reminds me that every time I consider purchasing a pack or spending any kind of money on the game that it is a bad and I shouldn't do it.
- I can add this along with the PC GF to never roll when a GF doesn't include a Pantheon
In a fit of madness I pulled a couple more times right before and after the day changeover. Kind of glad I did...Rodin, Baldin, and Fenrir Viz.
Baldin makes my Minerva cheese team complete and capable of taking down every radar dragon in A3. Ilm would have also worked but Baldin is a useful enough inherit that my Saria's can make up for it if my partner has Red Guan Yu inherited on Minerva.
For those wondering the "optimal" Minerva Cheese team (all cards have 5 fire resist latents).
SBR badge
Revo Minerva (Awoken Sakuya)
El Dorado (Ilm)
El Dorado (Baldin)
Lifive (Awoken Hades or Hathor)
Charité (no inherit)
Revo Minerva (Red Guan Yu)
Ilm can be replaced by Saria but forces you to use Red Guan Yu for the burst, Red Guan Yu can be replaced by any three turn bind clear with Fire Dragon Swordsman being a really close replacement. Baldin can be subbed by Muse but Zeus Dragon is no longer a guaranteed kill. Lifive has a 25% gravity specifically due to the radar's damage absorbs. 30% is too much, and even 25% is too much until Sakuya is applied.
You need 5 turns of Bind Clear to survive Lifive's GTFO attack since awakenings don't apply to bound cards. Everything else is basically stall for Charite if necessary, then kill ideally with the boards given so you can save actives for dangerous floors. Floors 1, 2, and 3 are dangerous because bad spawns mean you can't stall up and tans will end you. Once the engine is up and running you should be fine. Use Guan Yu to clear poisons if it starts getting risky, but if there's hearts on the board it shouldn't matter if you match well. Oh and remember to clear jammers before Lakshmi, board change if you have to.
Radar Strats:
Heph: LOL
Hera: Charité then LOL
Noah: Charité, save bind clears for attacking turns then whittle to >30% then kill. DO NOT DROP HER UNDER 30%. Stalling works here too.
Gaia: Charité then whittle. Takes forever if she gets to keep delaying you but safe.
Zeus: Charite, then stall up everything, then Ilm (Or Saria/RGY), Baldin (or Muse), Awoken Sakuya, 25% gravity and smack him as hard as you can. Baldin's shield lets you survive the counter attack if he's in an unfavorable color. Then Charité. If you did it right he won't be changing colors anymore. stall and burst as needed.
I need more Minerva with RGY friends. BrianGriffin is the only one on my list.
EDIT: just took it for a spin in Ultimate Yamato Rush Mythical+ solo. Yep works like a charm. The gravities work to get around resolves, the shield is strong enough that even Tengu can't kill you once converted even if he binds 2/3's of the team. The biggest threat is Tengu or Diza flooding the board with poison. RGY or Saria clears that. I need more skill ups on the El Dorados. Lifive isn't as crucial though his double haste did keep me from dying on a flooded poison board. All in all a pretty relaxed experience for the one special dungeon that has given me the most trouble.
Baldin makes my Minerva cheese team complete and capable of taking down every radar dragon in A3. Ilm would have also worked but Baldin is a useful enough inherit that my Saria's can make up for it if my partner has Red Guan Yu inherited on Minerva.
For those wondering the "optimal" Minerva Cheese team (all cards have 5 fire resist latents).
SBR badge
Revo Minerva (Awoken Sakuya)
El Dorado (Ilm)
El Dorado (Baldin)
Lifive (Awoken Hades or Hathor)
Charité (no inherit)
Revo Minerva (Red Guan Yu)
Ilm can be replaced by Saria but forces you to use Red Guan Yu for the burst, Red Guan Yu can be replaced by any three turn bind clear with Fire Dragon Swordsman being a really close replacement. Baldin can be subbed by Muse but Zeus Dragon is no longer a guaranteed kill. Lifive has a 25% gravity specifically due to the radar's damage absorbs. 30% is too much, and even 25% is too much until Sakuya is applied.
You need 5 turns of Bind Clear to survive Lifive's GTFO attack since awakenings don't apply to bound cards. Everything else is basically stall for Charite if necessary, then kill ideally with the boards given so you can save actives for dangerous floors. Floors 1, 2, and 3 are dangerous because bad spawns mean you can't stall up and tans will end you. Once the engine is up and running you should be fine. Use Guan Yu to clear poisons if it starts getting risky, but if there's hearts on the board it shouldn't matter if you match well. Oh and remember to clear jammers before Lakshmi, board change if you have to.
Radar Strats:
Heph: LOL
Hera: Charité then LOL
Noah: Charité, save bind clears for attacking turns then whittle to >30% then kill. DO NOT DROP HER UNDER 30%. Stalling works here too.
Gaia: Charité then whittle. Takes forever if she gets to keep delaying you but safe.
Zeus: Charite, then stall up everything, then Ilm (Or Saria/RGY), Baldin (or Muse), Awoken Sakuya, 25% gravity and smack him as hard as you can. Baldin's shield lets you survive the counter attack if he's in an unfavorable color. Then Charité. If you did it right he won't be changing colors anymore. stall and burst as needed.
I need more Minerva with RGY friends. BrianGriffin is the only one on my list.
EDIT: just took it for a spin in Ultimate Yamato Rush Mythical+ solo. Yep works like a charm. The gravities work to get around resolves, the shield is strong enough that even Tengu can't kill you once converted even if he binds 2/3's of the team. The biggest threat is Tengu or Diza flooding the board with poison. RGY or Saria clears that. I need more skill ups on the El Dorados. Lifive isn't as crucial though his double haste did keep me from dying on a flooded poison board. All in all a pretty relaxed experience for the one special dungeon that has given me the most trouble.
SecretMoblin
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the -1 cd and sbr are huge for me, it gives several of my potential water teams 100% SBR and an almost perfect system.
Still waiting on the ult though.
Cosmo Clock 21
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I forgot to run EXP of a Lifetime
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