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[Synbios459]

Now I could be thinking of something else, but isn't MGS3:S supposed to have Metal Gear 1 & 2? If so, are we going to be getting the port of the NES or MSX version, and is MG2 going to be that crappy NES one or the REAL one?

 

[Miburou]

Well, considering that the NES one was called Snake's Revenge and not MG2, I'm pretty sure the MSX2 versions are the ones that are included.

 

[Synbios459]

Well, considering that the NES one was called Snake's Revenge and not MG2, I'm pretty sure the MSX2 versions are the ones that are included.

Huh, I thought it was called Metal Gear 2: Snakes Revenge. Anyyway when I heard about it, all they called it was MG2.

 

[Lakitu]

Yeah we're getting MSX 2 English translations of both Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

Regarding Snake's Revenge, that's not part of the official Metal Gear storyline, it was only released for NES and was made by a totally seperate team by the name of Ultra Games.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

I can't wait to play these, now with the experience of MGS3 and Big Boss' origins. Should add a whole new layer to a classic experience...

I'm still hoping that Metal Gear 1 gets a full-on remake one day, though.

 

[Gamedude]

I'm still hoping that Metal Gear 1 gets a full-on remake one day, though.

Why? It would be boring (you would know that if you've played through the original)

Metal Gear 1 is boring, story based too.. but Metal Gear 2 on the other side.. awesome awesome game

 

[brandonh83]

*shrug* maybe that would be good incentive TO remake it - to make it less boring.

 

[Lakitu]

Trust me playing MG 1 and MG 2 will be important for MGS 4.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

*shrug* maybe that would be good incentive TO remake it - to make it less boring.

BINGO.

 

[Miburou]

Heh, the two NES games aren't even included in Kojima Productions' lineup.

http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/english/lineup.html

 

[Gamedude]

Heh, the two NES games aren't even included in Kojima Productions' lineup.

http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/english/lineup.html

Americans bought the license of Metal Gear for "porting" it on the NES (MG: Revenge wasn't a remake though) so Hideo Kojima had nothing to do with the inferior NES versions.

 

[Cheerilee]

Regarding Snake's Revenge, that's not part of the official Metal Gear storyline, it was only released for NES and was made by a totally seperate team by the name of Ultra Games.

Ultra Games = Konami

Back in the 80's, Nintendo had a system in place saying that a third-party could only publish something like 2 NES games per-year (I don't know the exact number), unless Nintendo's testing division said it was a triple-A game, at which point it was free from the system, and didn't detract from the total. You could make as many of those as you wanted (which was why everyone took Nintendo's "suggestions" about game-making so seriously).

I'm sure you can see the logic flaw in that system, since games take time to make, so you can never "take advantage" of winning a really good rating and making another game. You just had to always make more games than you were allowed to make, and let many of them fall under the axe.

Konami said "What if we were two companies? What if we make a division called 'Ultra Games' or something cool like that? Could we release twice as many games?"

Nintendo said "We'd see through something like that in an instant. But we like you. So we'll overlook it. Here you go. Ultra Games is now an official Nintendo third-party."


It's like how Fund-Q was supposed to help small startup developers, but then Yamauchi let Square get in by pretending to be "Game Designers Studio".


Of course, Ultra Games being Konami doesn't change the fact that Snake's Revenge wasn't made by Kojima.

 

[kenta]

Trust me playing MG 1 and MG 2 will be important for MGS 4.

Are you being a retard or do you know something. Wait, nobody knows anything yet, so you're being retarded aren't you.

 

[Lakitu]

Are you being a retard or do you know something. Wait, nobody knows anything yet, so you're being retarded aren't you.

I'm not saying I know anything, but you can guess what you like.

 

[kenta]

I'm not saying I know anything, but you can guess what you like.

I guess you're being retarded.

 

[Lakitu]

I guess you're being retarded.