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I can't believe this thread isn't locked yet. A thread specifically asking for hate speech? Fucking ridiculous.

Hey the admins do it all the time in the Gaming forum, whats to stop people from doing it here? :D
 
=W= said:
Yeah! Let's promote hate and intolerance! We'll show those Christians! That's what they get for hating us and not tolerating our beliefs!

I can't believe this thread isn't locked yet. A thread specifically asking for hate speech? Fucking ridiculous.


Eh...this is Nickelodean compared to those "the right" versus "the left" political threads
 
Boogie said:
Right. "Christian" isn't an ethnicity.

Where did I ever claim as much?

I just think this topic attracted people who grew up Christians (and are no longer practicing) and/or are from Christian backgrounds. Their answers were pretty obvious.

If you call Christians idiots, deluded sheep,Hypocrites, The Great Unwashed, Suckers, etc, then you're not a Christian.

I thought you were moderate?

Some of us were baptized at birth so unless we write to our church asking them to remove us from their lists or simply convert to another faith, we are Christians by definition, even if not in words and actions. :D
 
It doesn't take much for some people to declare you un-christian. I remember one thread some dude started talking about how he was shocked that his christian female friend would wear a thong, then posted a picture zoomed in on her ass in the topic.
 
levious said:
It doesn't take much for some people to declare you un-christian. I remember one thread some dude started talking about how he was shocked that his christian female friend would wear a thong, then posted a picture zoomed in on her ass in the topic.

Link, please. :lol
 
levious said:
It doesn't take much for some people to declare you un-christian. I remember one thread some dude started talking about how he was shocked that his christian female friend would wear a thong, then posted a picture zoomed in on her ass in the topic.
was that robertsan?
 
Instigator said:
Some of us were baptized at birth so unless we write to our church asking them to remove us from their lists or simply convert to another faith, we are Christians by definition, even if not in words and actions. :D

That's one of the most interesting, and for detractors most problematic aspects of Christianity. And likely, the reason for most of the hate in this thread.

You don't really need to act like Christ to be a Christian. According to my Lutheran education, once you've been baptised and confirmed you're home free.

That's not to say that the church doesn't emplore you on a daily basis to behave like Christ. Anybody who goes to church gets that message drilled home every Sunday. I guess that's what led me to eventually part with organized religion. I couldn't believe that so many people heard the message but so few listened.
 
Flynn said:
That's one of the most interesting, and for detractors most problematic aspects of Christianity. And likely, the reason for most of the hate in this thread.

You don't really need to act like Christ to be a Christian. According to my Lutheran education, once you've been baptised and confirmed you're home free.

That's not to say that the church doesn't emplore you on a daily basis to behave like Christ. Anybody who goes to church gets that message drilled home every Sunday. I guess that's what led me to eventually part with organized religion. I couldn't believe that so many people heard the message but so few listened.

That's cool and all, but you religion haters will have to leave my thread and start your own. I'll be happy to take part in yours, but I'd prefer to stick to my initial queries with this topic. :)
 
Instigator said:
Some of us were baptized at birth so unless we write to our church asking them to remove us from their lists or simply convert to another faith, we are Christians by definition, even if not in words and actions. :D

This sort of viewpoint is pretty archaic. By that definition I'm both a christian and a jew (but wait, I'm an atheist!). Religion is a matter of what you believe in, not what involuntary ceremonies your body underwent at birth. I could have had a giant cross or jewish star tattooed on my chest by my parents before I could make my own decisions, but that wouldn't permanently place me within the ranks of either representing religion until I got laser surgery.
 
EviLore said:
This sort of viewpoint is pretty archaic. By that definition I'm both a christian and a jew (but wait, I'm an atheist!). Religion is a matter of what you believe in, not what involuntary ceremonies your body underwent at birth.

It's not a viewpoint, it's a fact.

Baptized, went through the first communion and confirmation. Going to church is optional, especially with no peer pressure to attend. I'm not flaunting the involuntary ceremonies I went through as some sort of desperate attempt to prove my faith, it's just the way it is. It also means I can marry within the church and have my children go through the same process I did, simply because on paper, I am one of them.

Other denominations and free-thinking individuals may disagree with this, but their opinion is not any more relevant. And yes, that includes Boogie's and yours.
 
Instigator said:
It's not a viewpoint, it's a fact.

Baptized, went through the first communion and confirmation. Going to church is optional, especially with no peer pressure to attend. I'm not flaunting the involuntary ceremonies I went through as some sort of desperate attempt to prove my faith, it's just the way it is. It also means I can marry within the church and have my children go through the same process I did, simply because on paper, I am one of them.

Other denominations and free-thinking individuals may disagree with this, but their opinion is not any more relevant. And yes, that includes Boogie's and yours.
Going to church is optional; is being baptized as an infant optional as well?

I was baptized when I was six (and I didn't even know what the hell a baptism was) and I don't consider myself Christian one bit. If the church wants to mark me up as one, then fine. They can call me whatever the fuck they want.

It's no wonder these "number of Americans who are 'Christian'" statistics never seem congruent with reality.
 
EviLore said:
It's not a fact. The church does not control my religious beliefs. THE END.

And your religious beliefs do not define who I am or anyone else.

And yet you felt the need to barge in, state what makes someone a Chrisitan/Jew and yet, it was all about yourself and only concerns yourself.

THE FINAL SEQUEL.
 
teruterubozu said:
Christians are generally tourists - they believe they come from Heaven/God, spend some material time on earth, then leave and go back up to Heaven. Earth is just a temporary "stop" where you eat, shit, sleep, pray and get good grades to go to Heaven. No wonder Western Civilization is destroying the planet! They think it's just a rest stop.


Erm, civilization is destroying the planet.
 
I really have a hard time understanding all the Christian hate on this forum. Maybe you guys all have had bad experiences with people pushing their beliefs on you or whatever, I'm not really sure. To attack a very broad and large group of people simply because you think they are stupid etc etc is equivalent with saying "all muslims are terrorists." Yet that sort of speech is frowned upon while hatred for Christians is very hip and cool.

As an agnostic, the religion bashing on this forum is seriously off-putting and I can't understand how so many hateful people converged into one place.
 
sans_pants said:
I really have a hard time understanding all the Christian hate on this forum. Maybe you guys all have had bad experiences with people pushing their beliefs on you or whatever, I'm not really sure..

Well in my case, I did have assholes pushing their views on me when I was younger. I even had some Christians tell my mother I had a demon inside me, and she should beat it out of me. That was the last time she bothered dealing with those superstitious primates.

As organizations, I dislike all religions and think they do little to actually help people deal with things. Though I recognize there has been good done in its name (whatever religion you pick), I think by and large it has been a handicap to humanity, and the cause of far too much hate. That being said, I don't hate them all as people. I know I touched on this is another thread, but it's the organizations and the practices that religions have done over the years (mutilating both males and females ... more so males nowadays, burning people alive, trying to place belief above facts and hard knowledge), to me seem so wrong. But it's not like I'll spew hate at someone that's religious. I know and have a few friends that are and, although I strongly disagree with the practices and shit, I don't get in their faces, and I get along just fine.

Serious response aside: Lion Feed.
 
One important distinction is Catholic from Christian. Obviously Catholics are Christians, but Catholics do not share the same characteristics of Protestants and every group under that heading.
 
I don't call Christians or any other group names. Unless the specific group is extreme.
 
Instigator said:
And your religious beliefs do not define who I am or anyone else.
But an involuntary religious ceremony performed by an organization you haven't had a thing to do with for years does!
 
sans_pants said:
I really have a hard time understanding all the Christian hate on this forum. Maybe you guys all have had bad experiences with people pushing their beliefs on you or whatever, I'm not really sure. To attack a very broad and large group of people simply because you think they are stupid etc etc is equivalent with saying "all muslims are terrorists." Yet that sort of speech is frowned upon while hatred for Christians is very hip and cool.

As an agnostic, the religion bashing on this forum is seriously off-putting and I can't understand how so many hateful people converged into one place.
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"God, please allow US Special Forces to kill Hugo Chavez."
 
Does this mean Christianity is the opposite of straight edge ("If you're not now, you never were")? Because I'm all for this Jusus or whatever if it means snorting cocaine off of Grace Jones's thighs and an unlimited supply of delicious Fat Tires and boywhores.
 
sans_pants said:
therefore all christians are the same
You know, that argument tires me. Look. You want to put yourself into a house called "Christianity". Fine. There's this guy that is a mega-douche who happens to be a public face of said house and member thereof. If you don't like his representation of your house, either you move out or kick his ass out. Otherwise it's a valid criticism.

You don't see me having to apologize for Ajahn Bikkhu or the Dalai Lama(even though the Tibetan interpretation of Buddhism is comically mangled).
 
Instigator said:
But this got me wondering, what do some non-Christians call Christians when trying to demean them?
Instigator said:
Keep in mind, this is a moderated forum so I am not asking for vulgarity. :)
You're right - it is a moderated forum. And if you think that believing in God somehow makes one a more acceptable target...you're wrong.
 
Instigator said:
And your religious beliefs do not define who I am or anyone else.

And yet you felt the need to barge in, state what makes someone a Chrisitan/Jew and yet, it was all about yourself and only concerns yourself.

THE FINAL SEQUEL.


Religious organizations cannot force anyone into a particular label, even at gunpoint. Human beings are capable of free thought. We determine what our beliefs are.

But thanks for disregarding the inherent hypocrisy of automatically being a christian and a jew at the same time (despite that messianic jew crap). Hopefully in the future I'll involuntarily have some other kind of water splashed in my face and become an automatic involuntary muslim too.
 
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