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[SolidQ]

5070 - 2559zł = 682,74$

oh forgot about it 650+ for 5070

9070XT - 3129zł = 834,82$

So around 680$ without vat, price slwly down.

 

[SolidQ]

3.3ghz, compared to 3.13

 

[StereoVsn]

in my country 9070 non XT cheapest models cost 700-725$, that inlcude 20% vat(585-590$ without vat), but in one month they will get cheaper to 630-650$
9070XT around 760-800$ with 20% vat.
5070ti around 960 - 1k$ with 20% vat.

That's pretty good pricing. 9070 or XT seems the way to go based on budget! There is no way a 5070Ti is worth extra $200!

In US 9070XT and 5070Ti are much closer right now although sometimes you can get 9070XT at the "new MSRP" of $700. Can't even really blame vendors and retailers considering tariffs and higher port docking and container fees.

 

[Rosoboy19]

Here's hoping this card can be another market disruptor like the RX 580 was back in the day!

 

[CrimsonTide]

Is there a wall on GHZ speeds for GPU/CPU

Seems we have been in 3-4ghz land for 20 years, albeit more cores.

Most I have seen was some youtuber using liquid nitrogen to get near 5ghz or something, but that's not realistic to do.

Will we never see 10ghz or 100ghz?

 

[mrMUR_96]

Very curious how it compares to the 5060ti 16gb, especially due to it having GDDR6 vs 7 and RDNA 4's new RT

 

[CrustyBritches]

This is probably the card I'm going to get my son for his birthday in July. I was considering 5060, but I just can't bring myself to curse him with 8GB VRAM. 5060 Ti 16GB goes for ~$480 retail, so if I could snag a 9060 XT for ~$375 I'd be stoked.

Very curious how it compares to the 5060ti 16gb, especially due to it having GDDR6 vs 7 and RDNA 4's new RT

AMD-biased benchmarks show 6% faster than 5060 Ti 8GB at 1440p. 5060 Ti 16GB is about 2-3% faster than the 8GB model. In real-world performance I'd guess they're equal, and iirc according to HUB AMD said as much.

 

[//DEVIL//]

I don't get these companies. its like they are begging to be trashed out of business.

You saw hell break loose on that 5060 Ti 8 GB. You go ahead and make ur own? you had 1 or 2 months to adjust based on the feedback. but nope lets get fucked and get trashed talk by everyone and his mother.

Stop the 8 GB garbage. This was ok back during the 5700xt 8 years ago. wtf is wrong with these shit head companies?

 

[lachesis]

16gb 349 pricing is good enough, but after seeing the 9070xt MSRP fiasco, I'm wondering how many will sell at MSRP without reference model. I'm still pretty sour about not being able to buy 9070xt at MSRP.

As long as they can keep the 9060xt market price close to the MSRP - like within 5-10% of MSRP for the AIB models - I am sure it will sell quite well considering how horrendous the 5060Ti turned out... but it's still a bummer that 90XX series didn't get reference model.

On a side note, I'm wondering how the 9060xt 8gb model will compare with vanilla 5060, which is priced at same price? Having full x16 PCIE lanes would benefit for the older PCs, I guess...

 

[PeteBull]

On a side note, I'm wondering how the 9060xt 8gb model will compare with vanilla 5060, which is priced at same price? Having full x16 PCIE lanes would benefit for the older PCs, I guess...

It will be like WNBA games, bro, both terrible to look at

 

[iQuasarLV]

Stock Microcenter from yesterday

$659-$769 9070s +20%-40% Tag markup and add 7.75% sales tax, so 28-48% markups
$800-$920 9070XTs +33%-53% Tag markup and add 7.75% sales tax, so 41%-61% markups

This is why they have stock company wide.

$920 for a mid-range card, FML! For reference I paid $500 for a 6700 XT in April of 2022. Almost a 200% increase.

 

[Crayon]

$659-$769 9070s +20%-40% Tag markup and add 7.75% sales tax, so 28-48% markups
$800-$920 9070XTs +33%-53% Tag markup and add 7.75% sales tax, so 41%-61% markups

This is why they have stock company wide.

$920 for a mid-range card, FML! For reference I paid $500 for a 6700 XT in April of 2022. Almost a 200% increase.

9070xt may be more like 6800xt the way it slots into the lineup. AMD just did their monkey-see monkey-do thing and wanted to line up their "7" with nvidia.

 

[lachesis]

It will be like WNBA games, bro, both terrible to look at

Haha - but also am little curious if this GPUs could be used for PS5 Pro comparable builds under 700.

 

[PeteBull]

Haha - but also am little curious if this GPUs could be used for PS5 Pro comparable builds under 700.

Not with 8gigs of vram same way 3070ti/4060 couldnt, in any vram constrained scenario it loses so much performance, 16gigs model tho should be similar, bit above or bit below depending on particular game.

 

[SolidQ]

Interesting maybe frank was speaking add FSR4 and FSR redstone to C2077?

 

[SolidQ]

Hope that missprice. Because too expensive for EMEA and 9060XT

ACER Nitro Intel Arc Et AMD RX 9060 XT OC • Pause Hardware

Acer a dévoilé la nouvelle Acer Nitro Intel Arc séries A et B, aux côtés de la puissante Acer Nitro Radeon RX 9060 XT OC.

pausehardware.com

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Hope that missprice. Because too expensive for EMEA and 9060XT

Typo probably... I'll say 449 Euro including 20% VAT.

 

[PeteBull]

Hope that missprice. Because too expensive for EMEA and 9060XT

ACER Nitro Intel Arc Et AMD RX 9060 XT OC • Pause Hardware

Acer a dévoilé la nouvelle Acer Nitro Intel Arc séries A et B, aux côtés de la puissante Acer Nitro Radeon RX 9060 XT OC.

pausehardware.com

U would think across EU all retailers keep similar prices but u would be wildly mistaken, for example cheapest 9070 in germany is 649€, very solid price all things considered, but at different stores same card costs much more, worst being amazon.de selling it for 715€

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/V4MXsY/powercolor-hellhound-oc-radeon-rx-9070-16-gb-video-card-rx9070-16g-loc

Thats 11% markup on same product between retailers in germany alone...

 

[SolidQ]

U would think across EU all retailers keep similar prices

No, but wonder what countries would be put those prices. Africa?

 

[PeteBull]

No, but wonder what countries would be put those prices. Africa?

At the very bottom they give info about card being 599€ in EMEA region which is

Europe, the Middle East and Africa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So likely some middleeastern and african countries, they got crazy markups vs US prices, Europe is somewhere inbetween aka no hope for 300$ msrp but wont be terrible, u can see 5060 that has 300$ msrp in the US is avaiable in germany for 326€ cheapest, thats 368usd already including taxes:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/F38Pxr/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-5060-8-gb-video-card-gv-n5060wf2oc-8gd

 

[iQuasarLV]

On a 6700 XT, is the 5060 Ti 16GB or 9060XT 16GB going to be a substantial upgrade? I am seeing some European reviews saying around 33%+ uplift. $400 for these is less than I was going to pay for the 9070XT on launch day, and I wonder if a 2 Gen gap is enough time to see an uplift by going to the entry level since that will be available for a price-sensative person.

 

[PeteBull]

On a 6700 XT, is the 5060 Ti 16GB or 9060XT 16GB going to be a substantial upgrade? I am seeing some European reviews saying around 33%+ uplift. $400 for these is less than I was going to pay for the 9070XT on launch day, and I wonder if a 2 Gen gap is enough time to see an uplift by going to the entry level since that will be available for a price-sensative person.

Nopes, if u wanna see decent jump(over 2x performance in pure raster, even better in rt) go for 9070xt or 5070ti, here quick spreadsheet on avg performance so u know how it looks:

AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Specs

AMD Navi 22, 2581 MHz, 2560 Cores, 160 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 2000 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Or if u are very budget concious get 9070 non xt, u still get 16gigs of vram and 88% raw perf increase(well over 2x rt perf increase), tldr given ur circumstances i would rather save few months longer but make upgrade substantial, dont go for halfmeasures, u arent sitting on 3060ti or some other junk of a card so u got still margin of error/time to wait.

Thing to look for- 9070 non xt has much lower tdp(220W) from 9070xt(304W) and 5070ti(300W) so even relatively lowend models, on the cheaper side, will be able to handle it, aka will be relatively quiet and cool, with xt model and 5070ti, since its much higher tdp, u dont wanna go for cheapest worst cooling models which again will likely increase the price of a card.

Here if u are in the US go with this 9070 card, cheap but solid enough cooling/well known brand:

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-pulse-11349-03-20g-amd-radeon-rx-9070-16gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814202453?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2F6BLp99%2Fsapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-9070-16-gb-video-card-11349-03-20g&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-_eVBbafvsBLHfze47txikQ

Here the card tested in 40 games, 3weeks ago so very recent:

 

[SolidQ]

thats is very small 9060XT

 

[winjer]

AMD pulling an Nvidia..........

 

[StereoVsn]

AMD pulling an Nvidia..........

It's amazing, AMD has had so many chances this gen to substantially increase their market share and can't help but sabotage themselves.

$300 GPUs and 8GB of VRAM don't belong together.

 

[Bojji]

AMD pulling an Nvidia..........

Absurd level of stupidity from AMD.

AMD cared about VRAM a lot in 2022.

 

[winjer]

 

[PeteBull]

Thats a nasty big tdp for entry lvl/budget card, which means cooling system will have to not be super weak/cheap aka there wont be many/any models at msrp...

 

[Gaiff]

AMD pulling an Nvidia..........

Lol AMD have never been the "good guys" just pretending to be more customer friendly because that's all they could do.

 

[El Muerto]

Someone on Reddit got their hands on the card and ran it through 3dmark and the Wukong benchmark tool

 

[winjer]

Thats a nasty big tdp for entry lvl/budget card, which means cooling system will have to not be super weak/cheap aka there wont be many/any models at msrp...

Yeah, with wafer prices as high as they are, Nvidia and AMD are pushing clocks to make up for smaller chips.
I would not be surprised if we saw a 5GHz GPU in a few years time, similar to CPUs.

 

[PeteBull]

Yeah, with wafer prices as high as they are, Nvidia and AMD are pushing clocks to make up for smaller chips.
I would not be surprised if we saw a 5GHz GPU in a few years time, similar to CPUs.

Looks like that article was wrong saying 200W tdp, since here they saying 150W, thats more inline what i thought its gonna be:

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT 8 GB Specs

AMD Navi 44, 3130 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2518 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[winjer]

Looks like that article was wrong saying 200W tdp, since here they saying 150W, thats more inline what i thought its gonna be:

AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT 8 GB Specs

AMD Navi 44, 3130 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2518 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Techpowerup is probably talking about the reference card.
And Tom's Hardware is probably talking about an AIB OC model.

 

[SolidQ]

ooks like that article was wrong saying 200W tdp, since here they saying 150W, thats more inline what i thought its gonna be:

8gb 150W
16gb 182W

 

[SolidQ]

Some leaked benchmarks

 

[Crayon]

^^^ It's closest in msrp to the 7060xt 16gb and shows serious gains by today's standards of improvements. Only two years later and $20 more.

I'd go ahead and say that's great, but we'll see what the real price is. In today's market, where you have to cough it up for even 12gb, $400 would be a reasonable buy but a lot less attractive.

 

[SolidQ]

Some graphics from AMD

 

[Bojji]

Some graphics from AMD

I wonder why they didn't show performance of their 8GB model here... lol

 

[Pey.]

Here's my comprehensive analysis of the RX 9600 XT 8GB. It includes benchmarks for 21 games and their average in rasterization, ray tracing, and general benchmarks, an overclocking section, 1440p gameplay videos, and even a segment dedicated to the 8GB VRAM controversy. It's probably one of the longest reviews I've ever done.

PowerColor Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB Reaper - Review | PC Master Race Latinoamérica

Ahora, el equipo rojo busca batallar en el terreno de la gama de entrada con la RX 9060 XT de 8GB y 16GB para competir con la RTX 5060 Ti de 8GB y 16GB como...

www.pcmrace.com

 

[Mr Moose]

 

[StereoVsn]

So in games the two cards look to be comparable (16GB versions) it seems. Pricing and availability going to be key. You can pretty much get 5060Ti 16GB at or near MSRP.

 

[kikkis]

I looked at benchmarks and to me b580 is better bang for buck. Yes perf is bit better on 9060 xt but its like 100e less on b580. But perf difference isn't transcending, best seems to be going 30 -> 50, but that was just one game. Elden ring ran even better b580

 

[Zathalus]

Decent PC Card offering ~PS5 Pro level GPU performance for $350, assuming the MSRP actually holds. Not super exciting, but it does offer ~10-15% better price/performance compared to the 5060 Ti 16GB.

 

[ResilientBanana]

AMD pulling an Nvidia..........

he's dead nuts accurate.

Steam Hardware & Software Survey

Look at top GPU and Resolution. RTX 3060 and 1920 x 1080.

Secondly, this card is clearly not meant for you, don't buy it. Move up a few tiers.

EDIT Personally, I may go 9070 XT 16GB as the 5070 TI is not performing as I would have hoped. This is interesting to me as I'm normally a huge nVidia fan.

 

[Mr Moose]

he's dead nuts accurate.

Steam Hardware & Software Survey

Look at top GPU and Resolution. RTX 3060 and 1920 x 1080.

Secondly, this card is clearly not meant for you, don't buy it. Move up a few tiers.

That has 12GB.

This is a shocking stat:

512 MB

5.86%

+0.37%

What the fuck?

 

[Xyphie]

This is a shocking stat:
What the fuck?

iGPUs assign VRAM dynamically by default, so they might mess that up.

 

[ResilientBanana]

That has 12GB.

This is a shocking stat:
What the fuck?

Some 3060's are 12GB, but others are 8GB. The average VRAM stat states 8GB.

I agree 512 is shocking, but that's most likely someone playing source 1 games on a cheap laptop.