Rage of Bahamut: Genesis |OT| Dark Fantasy Anime Epic Funded By F2P Success

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Admiral Woofington said:
The creatures and the dragon don't really have anything to do with anime and can be considered fairly standard to fantasy. So that wasn't the issue. Heck even half naked females is common in fantasy so that didn't bother me too much. But the talking anime duck, the transforming stone card, and now the anime-esque enemies are definitely part of the reason reminding me it's anime in that it doesn't exactly click with the rest of the setting the show is trying to establish. The stone cards being the biggest detractor.
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I don't really see the difference between monsters/dragons and talking animals. you can find both in anime, fantasy books, games or whatever. what you mentioned it's all stuff that fits in a fantasy setting, and that's exactly what they want to establish.
stone cards just felt weird, more than anything. I'm curious about what story and implications they have besides being dead wanted criminals.
 
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I never realized how much I didn't want angst ridden dark fantasy between the cold open and the OP. I also never realized how much I wanted goofy shit when the rest of the ep pulled me back in.
 
Allright this and Fate will be my animes for this season. I really enjoyed it.

The pursuit/fight scene between the two MC's remembered Will Turner and Jack Sparrow on the first PotC movie.
 
Episode 2

It doesn't have quite the level of absurd visual polish that the first episode does, but tonally it's very much the same. That's exactly what I wanted. The fate of the world just might hang in the balance, but there's still a lot of room for levity, with Amira playing the straight man to Favaro's trickster antics. Their dance is an obvious highlight, but one of my favorite moments was when they were departing from Bacchus's chariot hut thing. It was a scene that didn't have to have much of anything, but the constant bickering, teasing, and complaining from all the characters makes them come alive.

Compared to most anime, especially others in its genre, Rage of Bahamut is written remarkably well. The plot possesses remarkable momentum, barrelling forward without wasting time. The characters' personalities jump out at us with every word, with no time spent wasted as JRPG-esque NPCs telling us basic points of expository knowledge. Even at this early stage, everyone has a few dimensions to them. I feel like I'm not really expressing it well, but something like the show's crisp, confident movement through the bounty hunt shows how big a difference a tight script can make.

If they can keep the lightness and swiftness the show has had so far, it'll be a real classic. With a selfish scoundrel like Favaro at the lead, I feel confident they can pull it off.
 
My big worry about the show is that the overarching plot might be a mess. So far the backstory hasn't exactly been entertaining or engrossing in any way.
 
Zee-Row said:
Is this based on the mobile game?
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Yes, but that doesn't tie them to all that much.

Jarmel said:
My big worry about the show is that the overarching plot might be a mess. So far the backstory hasn't exactly been entertaining or engrossing in any way.
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This is the show's biggest weakness so far, so if it begins to overwhelm the characters it would drag the show down. But I'm hoping it'll stay as mostly an excuse to land Favaro in bigger and bigger trouble, the way it's worked up to this point.
 
sonicmj1 said:
This is the show's biggest weakness so far, so if it begins to overwhelm the characters it would drag the show down. But I'm hoping it'll stay as mostly an excuse to land Favaro in bigger and bigger trouble, the way it's worked up to this point.
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It's coming though and unlike the modern parts, the more 'epic' stuff seems to be dead serious.

I'm really hoping the personalities of the characters aren't so much fighting the tone of the story later on but I'm not exactly hopeful.
 
Jarmel said:
My big worry about the show is that the overarching plot might be a mess. So far the backstory hasn't exactly been entertaining or engrossing in any way.
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I'm not sure if the "back story" really matters here though. It's pretty clear what they're going for - 2000 years ago Bahamut was sealed by the combined powers of Gods and Demons. The power to unseal him was split into two keys, shared by the Gods and the Demons. That's pretty much the entire backstory. The story here is clearly not about what happened before, but what people are doing now. The Gods, Demons, and Men who live in the world today, and their reaction to the theft of the key, and how they interact with each other throughout the chase.

I feel that the show is trying pretty hard to be like Lord of the Rings, with more capable characters.
 
duckroll said:
I'm not sure if the "back story" really matters here though. It's pretty clear what they're going for - 2000 years ago Bahamut was sealed by the combined powers of Gods and Demons. The power to unseal him was split into two keys, shared by the Gods and the Demons. That's pretty much the entire backstory. The story here is clearly not about what happened before, but what people are doing now. The Gods, Demons, and Men who live in the world today, and their reaction to the theft of the key, and how they interact with each other throughout the chase.
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Well it's hard to tell a pattern based on just two episodes but they did do the cold opening with the angels as well as with Jeanne this episode, and then the hints at the end with the demons(?). All of whom tie into the lore rather than the characters directly, at this stage anyway. I do think they're trying to incorporate some sort of larger mythology into the show.
 
duckroll said:
I'm not sure if the "back story" really matters here though. It's pretty clear what they're going for - 2000 years ago Bahamut was sealed by the combined powers of Gods and Demons. The power to unseal him was split into two keys, shared by the Gods and the Demons. That's pretty much the entire backstory. The story here is clearly not about what happened before, but what people are doing now. The Gods, Demons, and Men who live in the world today, and their reaction to the theft of the key, and how they interact with each other throughout the chase.

I feel that the show is trying pretty hard to be like Lord of the Rings, with more capable characters.
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Jarmel said:
Well it's hard to tell a pattern based on just two episodes but they did do the cold opening with the angels as well as with Jeanne this episode, and then the hints at the end with the demons(?). All of whom tie into the lore rather than the characters directly, at this stage anyway. I do think they're trying to incorporate some sort of larger mythology into the show.
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No, they tie into the characters, not just the "lore". The episode was positioned such that it opened with introducing the faction of Gods, and their connection to the world of Men via Jeanne d'Arc, and it closed by introducing the faction of Demons, and their specific interest in the theft. This is not really just to build the world, but to introduce the factions who will play the role of pursuers in the coming episodes.

After introducing Jeanne d'Arc, the episode followed up by showing one of her commanders patrolling the region with his men to seek out Amira. As the story continues we will see how each faction handles the situation differently as the characters continue their journey, and what happens if either faction gets their hands on the main players. In the end, everything always connects back directly to Favaro, Kaiser, and Amira.

Think of the introduction scenes like the ones in LotR where they show Sauron's black riders being summoned to hunt Frodo. :)

Admiral Woofington said:
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Frodo and Sam are scrub-tier. Dealwithit.
 
Finally got around to the first episode, was a lot of fun, also no highschoolers so that's like an automatic +1 in it's favor
 
I'm just echoing the rest of the praise for this show. I will add that there's a healthy variety of different environments and setpieces placed throughout the episodes: corpse-filled manors, starry lakes, waterfalls, etc. All the characters so far have been very expressive too. Even if the animation won't be as lavish, if the following episodes can keep up the smart pacing and character moments, they'll be A-OK.
 
Man ep.2 was soo good! Not on pilot's level but still!
Favaro is a great character, i legit laugh at most of his lines, even if my friends hate him already.
Amira and Kaisar are interesting as well.
Im just worried about demons and angels and golems, i fear like at one point they're going to exagerate with this.

And holy shit at the opening, so effing awesome.
 
What's to dislike about Favaro as a character? As a protagonist he's sleazy and a weasel, but he's a great character. If anything right now there's not much to like about Kaisar since all he has done is scream Favaro's name.
 
Admiral Woofington said:
What's to dislike about Favaro as a character? As a protagonist he's sleazy and a weasel, but he's a great character. If anything right now there's not much to like about Kaisar since all he has done is scream Favaro's name.
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I don't think anyone has seen enough of Kaisar to judge him yet. I'll give the show a few more episodes.
 
Episode 2

This didn't blow me away as much as the first one did, but still very enjoyable and pleasant to watch. Favaro is a surprisingly likeable character, from the design to his trickster behavior. Amira is great as well and I loved how they did not stick by making her this icecold inhuman like many animes do; she can have fun and motivations as well (oh, and different facial expressions!).

The dance scene was the highlight and felt more like a movie than a regular show in terms of overall quality. Animations and music are still ace.
 
Episode 3

Glad to see the show survived a fully outsourced Korean episode without looking awful. Some good old horror vibes this week, with a stopover at a "quiet" town. Now that they've gotten Kaiser's backstory out of the way, I expect Favaro's to come pretty soon. Having something different in every episode is a pretty good tactic to keep audiences interested in what is essentially a road trip fantasy series. There wasn't anything like the dance last week, but there are some pretty nice action sequences instead. The nice backgrounds and art direction also makes the various locations feel unique. Good stuff. The music is excellent too.

I think having atypical leads also makes the story more interesting even when a lot of the content has been done in other fantasy tales. Favaro is just a total jerk, but he's cunning, well equipped, and generally prepared before jumping into situations. Kaiser on the other hand is a total white knight who doesn't really think much before trying hard to do what he believes is the "right" thing. Funny pair. :P
 
I've found this to be the worst episode of the three. People kinda just dump their backstories and all of them felt pretty flat. The twist of the 'current' story was sort of obvious and I had no attachment to Rita at the end to feel any sort of emotion.
 
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The color palate was a bit dark for my tastes but I was a fan of the art direction for this episode. A bit more heavy on the exposition but it did a great job on filling in some of the blanks, especially for Kaiser and his character. Rita seems fun. I guess the crew forms in earnest next episode?
 
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This was a fun episode, nice and creepy with some good action and NO CENSORSHIP. The whole God Faction side is still a bit dull, though.
 
Dead companion could be interesting, especially since she's like 200 years old and a little uppity. Should make adventures with the disgraced knight more fun since he's uppity too.

I'm hoping they show more of the demon/god factions though. This piecemeal stuff doesn't work for me when they are the least interesting part of the story so far.
 
Lactose_Intolerant said:
Dead companion could be interesting, especially since she's like 200 years old and a little uppity. Should make adventures with the disgraced knight more fun since he's uppity too.

I'm hoping they show more of the demon/god factions though. This piecemeal stuff doesn't work for me when they are the least interesting part of the story so far.
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Yeah I think right now the external factions remain a sort of tease of what's to come. They don't have anything to do with the central characters yet, but at some point it'll definitely converge. I did like the really generic but always effective scenes where they kept cutting from character to character talking about the theft of the key though. It really did a nice job of showing how varied the character designs were and how nice the faces look up close.
 
Finalow said:
^the talking duck owns. that duck + the old man are a great couple.

another good episode, not as action packed as the first one but I'm ok with it. also I'm liking the mc so far. the op song is pretty bad, yeah, good visuals at least.

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pretty cool the clothing scene,

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the dancing was also really nice.

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/all that f2p money doing work
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I accidentally clicked on this thread but SOLD.
 
I was amused when they did the intro scene in the ep to the 'bad guys', with the establishing shot of the weird flying fortress cutting into the dude sitting around in a dark abstract place talking with his minions about nothing. Screamed Toku/Power Rangers.
 
dont know. this eps felt like they might be running out of budget a bit, or saving for the good stuff.

although the fight against the cliff monster was pretty decently done.
 
Rage of Bahamut 3

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Wow, this show sure is something. Kaisar is a hilarious character, ironically because he can never refrain from earnest seriousness at all times. Good art and storyboarding helped to establish Nebelville as a suitably spooky place, tipping off the audience well before Kaisar realized what was going on. The background art in general was really great this week- as it has been throughout the first 3 episodes.

I guess it's officially an anime now that Kaisar has a 200-year-old little girl companion.
 
Rage of Bahamut Genesis 3

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Wasn't feeling this one but perhaps it's because I should check my expectations. This one felt the most "anime" of the three so far, driving home that each faction knows what's going on after they did the same thing in the previous episode. It doesn't help that's a pet peeve of mine. I'm unsure if it's necessary or just excess to demonstrate everyone except Favaro and Kaisar has the same information to work with currently.

Speaking of which, I don't know why I never made a Kasiser:Zenigata correlation after comparing Favaro to a Lupin-type character the past two. Him waking up to shout Favaro's name sealed the deal for me there.

Also, while I'm sure the high fantasy stuff will be appreciable later on, it's just a chore at the moment. I know POTC comparison were made with the show initially so to continue that the high fantasy stuff is like getting Will/Elizabeth scenes when you really just want more Jack Sparrow.
 
Episode 3

While this episode may have been a step down compared to the effortless rolling pace of the previous two episodes, I still found it very strong. The episode's biggest weakness is its use of long flashback scenes in the middle of the episode to deliver character backstory. Certainly, the transition into Amira's tale barges in almost out of nowhere. Kaisar's story, on the other hand, works well with everything else going on.

The episode revolves around Rita's story, and a lot of the specifics about her situation get left blank by the writing. I appreciated that, as it generally has so far, the show doesn't explain the rules of her magic, and gives us space to understand her emotions based on how she reacts to Kaisar, and how everyone behaves. The concepts surrounding her aren't original, but I like how Kaisar interacts with them. With the way she shoots down his relentless earnestness, I think they'll make a good pair.
 
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