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[CrustyBritches]

It's said PS5's GPU, codename: Kugoson is working in unison with revamped Cell 2 to provide RT and possibly PS3 BC. According to the Pastebin rumors.

 

[demigod]

It's said PS5's GPU, codename: Kugoson is working in unison with revamped Cell 2 to provide RT and possibly PS3 BC. According to the Pastebin rumors.

Are you serious or did you not get the joke? kugoson=son goku.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Are you serious or did you not get the joke? kugoson=son goku.

Dead serious.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Jesus Christ people

Re-read Songoku's posts. He even pokes fun about his own typo.

Amazing troll.

 

[SonGoku]

not understanding the simplest of things being said to you

Such as?

and siding with what AMD is directly spitting to you which is a historically dumb thing to do.

Not really, im merely pointing out Navi is a more efficient arch than Vega at gaming so you get more perf per flop simple as that. Its not my fault you can't handle/accept simple facts

I expect to perform in the range of throughput that is akin to and between the Vega 56 and 64.

and that is underselling because as I've already explained to you (not sure why you keep trying to ignore it) you could get that level of performance on consoles by porting Vega to 7nm. So yeah you are underselling Navi because your peak claim can already be achieved with Vega on 7nm

In terms of bandwidth the X has an on paper bandwidth advantage, not real world, also its bus is being shared with the CPU so that's cutting into the memory pipeline as well.

So? that's true to any discrete card they all use theoretical peaks that they can't reach
Shared bus consumes 40GB/s at most, that still leaves the X with a hefty advantage to make up for the slight fillrate disadvantage

When GCN was introduced it was kind of competitive, Nvidia was still carrying the torch and even with AMD pushing out the 7970 Ghz Edition it was a short lived parallel that hasn't been seen since.

GCN was very competitive when it started, that's all that matters to customers not some silly 5% perf crown.

 

[SonGoku]

lol 14-15TF

Nobody said anything about that, its just a comparison to showcase Navis increased efficiency
That's like saying Turing 10TF matches Vega 14TF

- No company uses two different architectures for cost reasons. Which is why Nvidia uses same architecture for gaming, pro-work and even industry things like AI

Intel does it all the time with its HEDT lineup.
In AMDs case its a cost saving approach to exploit Vega (it still a very good compute card) until its no longer profitable.

why would a navi TF be more powerful than a vega TF?

ya but Tflops is the output power of a gpu so why would one be more powerful that the other? isn't that the measuring stick we compare gpus?

TF count its a peak theoritical number, the goal is to get as close to it as possible (full utilization).
Due to arch bottlenecks GNC CUs spend alot of time iddle, they big suspected change for Navi is the 8SEs (previously 4) that will help distribute load better another suspected change is redisigned CUs that can work more independently similar to how nvidia does it

Navi is supposed to be 1.25 times more efficiant, so people are taking it as 1.25 times more Terraflops compared to Vega. It doesnt really work like that.

Its just a comparison to showcase Navis increased efficiency over Vega in gaming.