Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.

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"Can handle current gen ports" isn't really something that excites me. The WiiU was billed the same way, saying it would get ports like Call of Duty and stuff. Not reassuring.

Well the "current gen" for Wii U ended in about a year lol. NX should have 3-4 years until ps5 etc. at least, unless these "upgrade" systems start increasing in frequency. Maybe 2 years at the worst...

Fuck it I just want NXenoblade to not have horrid pop-in pls.
 
If it is more powerful as the slightly pessimistic insider suggests, that could be a good thing for Nintendo as long as they get the price right.
If it can handle PS4 games with better performance it might convince owners of the PS4 to get that instead of upgrading to a PS4 that will play the same games they have already.
But to do that they need to get the price from $300-350 and that would probably mean to not include an expensive controller and/or to have a membership program to help them eat the cost
 
Well the "current gen" for Wii U ended in about a year lol. NX should have 3-4 years until ps5 etc. at least, unless these "upgrade" systems start increasing in frequency. Maybe 2 years at the worst...

Fuck it I just want NXenoblade to not have horrid pop-in pls.

I remember in either the performance thread or the review thread, someone was talking about the game having some hidden menus many relating to the engine. Engine is excellent, much of the good stuff is turned off for the Wii U. If there's an NX version, it could look really, really nice and I would buy it!
 
I remember in either the performance thread or the review thread, someone was talking about the game having some hidden menus many relating to the engine. Engine is excellent, much of the good stuff is turned off for the Wii U. If there's an NX version, it could look really, really nice and I would buy it!

I'd probably rent it off gamefly and just walk around.
 
I don't see the point of a new thread, the IndieGamer thread already said that the NX met or exceeded the PS4's performance threshold.
 
Do we really need that kind of attention for gaffer leaking some info? I always find that to be in bad taste. If he wants to do it himself, let him, if not don't bother.
But it new news locked in this thread.. new news always bring more news. If it wasnt for this thread he wouldnt of said that
I don't see the point of a new thread, the IndieGamer thread already said that the NX met or exceeded the PS4's performance threshold.
Everyone call BS on IndieGamerGirl even me, a gaf specialist is much more believable and conversational
 
We don't need another thread lol. We already rehash the same nonsense as is.

Mihael...go make a new thread if you want one so much.
 
But it new news locked in this thread.. new news always bring more news. If it wasnt for this thread he wouldnt of said that

Everyone call BS on IndieGamerGirl even me, a gaf specialist is much more believable and conversational

This hasn't been verified has it? Until it does I wouldn't do it.
 
Actually I don't think most devs will come if nintendo had power, I've articulated this angle in nintendo tech threads when they had better tech then their competitors. A good sdk is a start. Nintendo teams are easily of the top 5 best pushers on their consoles of any generation you would be a fool to historically argue that.

They don't need killer games but them ports, publishers/devs are half assing shit on pc and consoles, now there is another console in the mix. History shows non leading console get treated badly. You're crowd is assuming you will get any I'm not for the most part I smell it already.

Hopefully SDK and a unified code base means we get this world where we effectively get a merged software platform.

Or in layman's terms, we get access to portable and home games. However they address it. I mean, imagine a system that had the combined software library of 3ds and wiiu. Yeah it'd be great.

And anyone saying, Oh I don't portable games at home etc., guess what a lot, a whole bunch of people play their portables on the couch, and I have an inkling Nintendo knows this.
 
I don't see the point of a new thread, the IndieGamer thread already said that the NX met or exceeded the PS4's performance threshold.

Ever since proper speculation threads were banned it's been a directive of Nintengaf to have a non-stop stream of temporary NX speculation threads one after another.

Everyone call BS on IndieGamerGirl even me, a gaf specialist is much more believable and conversational

IndieGamerChick and BioGamerGirl have combined to form the ultimate inside source.
 
I don't think there's really any need tbh. When the time comes and it needs to be brought to attention with more news and verification, that's should be the perfect time.

70 days until E3.
 
If the CPU is clearly better than the PS4 then that's as good as I could have possibly imagined. The chances of anything beyond that were always minute.
 
There does seem to be a consensus forming with all these rumors that the NX is noticeably more powerful than the PS4. Happy if true. Still cautiously optimistic but there's getting to be more and more smoke
 
I honestly think creating a powerful system alongside their more budget friendly handheld would be the way to go.
Allows them to reach a bigger market of those more casual players (handheld) or those more high end users that care about performance.
Even if it's just between PS4 and PS4.5 that's fine, if need be they can release and NX.5.
If only one manages to take off they can continue to support both by creating software that would run on both and they'll be in a much healthier state than Wii U.
But a development friendly environment like what's being talked about (x86, better CPU) would be a pretty nice bonus.
Price is important, though, so if they want second screen support they should really consider just allowing phones/tablets as the option or optimally the handheld doubling as a controller (but sold separately)
 
I wonder if some Nintendo exec is just reading this topic and laughing at us trying to figure out which leak is legit and which are fake.
 
Why would anyone even expect Nintendo to suddenly have a CPU in their machine that is amazing when the simple fact is what's available for console APU from AMD are in the meh tier. Future designs will certainly be less Meh but there is no behind the scenes secret APU that is balls to the walls amazing.

They will have a CPU similar to the other consoles as that is what's available
 
They will have a CPU similar to the other consoles as that is what's available
Even that might be pushing our luck.
People should just be hoping for similar spec to ps4 or xbone at best. This is Nintendo we're talking about. They're really good at underwhelming specs
 
Too much Attention given to horsepower.

What really broke the Wii U was that controller. If there's a secondary screen I hope it's very humble, if not mostly optional.
 
Too much Attention given to horsepower.

What really broke the Wii U was that controller. If there's a secondary screen I hope it's very humble, if not mostly optional.
Bad messaging hurt them. The iPad really hurt them. The controller itself is amazeballs. This round, if they do that sort of controller, it should be an optional add-on. It should be used for Wii U, DS, and 3DS compatibility, as well as off screen play primarily.

The primary controller should be fairly vanilla.
 
Why would anyone even expect Nintendo to suddenly have a CPU in their machine that is amazing when the simple fact is what's available for console APU from AMD are in the meh tier. Future designs will certainly be less Meh but there is no behind the scenes secret APU that is balls to the walls amazing.

They will have a CPU similar to the other consoles as that is what's available

Could be efficiency, better clock speed etc. Xbox One and PS4 are both using the same type of mobile jaguar CPUs but Xbox One has the better clock speed.

CPU right now is a bottleneck.


I still don't really buy into the x86 part because ARM seems like a better avenue for them for the same architecture across the board like Apple does. but processors have become more efficient

Being X86 does not rule out an nx handheld version.

AMD has been building their new x86 and arm cpu's in conjuction with each other for that very purpose.

http://wccftech.com/amd-developing-...-arm-cores-features-gcn-20-cores-hsa-support/



And "dolphin"...cheetah... hmm :)

Mmmm... I doubt it to be honest. ARM has been in Nintendo's handhelds for a very long time and the reason it can also keep such good backwards compatibility. I fully expect them to continue that trend because sticking to similar architecture has done nothing but benefit them in the long run.

Their home console side is a completely different story with odd decisions, different architectures and so on forcing them to restart every generation. Something they're trying to fix by unifying their ecosystem and architecture.


EDIT: Basically, their handheld side has been nothing but straight forward and easy to manage compared to their confusing mess on the home console side.
 
Why would anyone even expect Nintendo to suddenly have a CPU in their machine that is amazing when the simple fact is what's available for console APU from AMD are in the meh tier. Future designs will certainly be less Meh but there is no behind the scenes secret APU that is balls to the walls amazing.

They will have a CPU similar to the other consoles as that is what's available

Yup, even if they just threw in Jaguar 8 cores at 14 nm, the new smaller process will maybe allow a higher clock...

It would be hard to do a CPU less than the 8 core 28 nm jaguar this year ?

Everybody is still in the dark on all these new consoles.
 
The next leak will be Nintendo's release schedule, Handheld in Japan and Console in US holiday 2016. Console in Japan and Handheld in US Spring 2017.
 
The next leak will be Nintendo's release schedule, Handheld in Japan and Console in US holiday 2016. Console in Japan and Handheld in US Spring 2017.

handheld is the biggest thing worldwide. i think they'd launch that everywhere first. maybe give the console a launch in europe and us in 2016 though.
 
Miyamoto specifically mentioned CPU as the current bottleneck they've been facing so I think it's safe to assume they'll use at least a decent one.
handheld is the biggest thing worldwide. i think they'd launch that everywhere first. maybe give the console a launch in europe and us in 2016 though.
Yeah, I think that was the general consensus until Trev speculated on top of what he had heard.
Would probably make sense to launch with their stronger product and make sure software is ready for the console by ~March/April 2017 though that means missing out on Zelda U/Zelda's anniversary and holiday sales.
 
Nintendo was doomed for the 8th Generation of consoles when they got into their own head about the direction they wanted to go and sabotaged their initial plans.

Designing what was likely Wii HD then abandoning it to start over on Wii U and the tablet controller was a huge mistake. Wii HD would have likely arrived in 2010 or 2011 and while still not an ideal timeframe with the way the industry has contracted around engines etc. it would have been a better spot than arriving too late.

I mean timeframe wise we would still be seeing NX around now but they would have had a potentially healthier even if still less than stellar generation
 
Nintendo was doomed for the 8th Generation of consoles when they got into their own head about the direction they wanted to go and sabotaged their initial plans.

Designing what was likely Wii HD then abandoning it to start over on Wii U and the tablet controller was a huge mistake. Wii HD would have likely arrived in 2010 or 2011 and while still not an ideal timeframe with the way the industry has contracted around engines etc. it would have been a better spot than arriving too late.

I mean timeframe wise we would still be seeing NX around now but they would have had a potentially healthier even if still less than stellar generation

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Wii HD was ever a thing. Plus the Wii U still arrived ahead of the competition.
 
I wonder why LCGeek posts didnt make a new thread ��

No point in wasting more server resources, I've said as much in other nintendo topics when the subject comes up. It's all speculation and me confirming a power envelope or where one part of the devices is doesn't make up all that much compared tow hat people want.

When I see rumors talking about easy ports and 1080p/60fps performance with no context I tend to get a little weary.

Better tech types can easily explain why a system that has a gpu above amd 7850 might want a better cpu, cause bottlenecking will happen quickly as they go up in gpu power if they use anything better. I say this in my experiencing having amd 7950/7970 I'm replacing for 970 as they come cheap. Don't care if it's console or pc you aren't feeding that kind of amd gpu a weak cpu and getting something that is going to trounce a PS4 or do 1080p/60fps high end PS4 titles or whatever the hell I was reading as this doesn't even happen with pc ports with far more power at times. This rumor is BS'ing something or nintendo has some magic, what does history tell any of you.
 
There's a lot of importance placed on making the systems be more straight forward. PS4 and Xbox One went x86, and their future systems will be too. It means not having to relearn everything from scratch every gen, and BC should become a non-issue going forward.
 
Why are you even bringing Intel into this discussion? They haven't shown any signs of becoming more agreeable to console style license terms.



You mean the same Nintendo that provided full BC (including digital) for free on Wii U, 3DS, Wii, DS, and GBA?
Intel == x86 == lead platform for anything, at least until Samsung and the rest bridge the gap.

Jumping on the x86 bandwagon makes it way more likely to get a port. I expect this to change as TSMC and Samsung catch up (custom hardware will become a more viable thing with Moore's Law dead). But we're years away from that.


re: BC, Nintendo has always done hardware BC. Their software support (Virtual Console, hello), has been kind of embarrassing in quantity. I don't really expect Wii U BC.
 
No point in wasting more server resources, I've said as much in other nintendo topics when the subject comes up. It's all speculation and me confirming a power envelope or where one part of the devices is doesn't make up all that much compared tow hat people want.

When I see rumors talking about easy ports and 1080p/60fps performance with no context I tend to get a little weary.

Better tech types can easily explain why a system that has a gpu above amd 7850 might want a better cpu, cause bottlenecking will happen quickly as they go up in gpu power if they use anything better. I say this in my experiencing having amd 7950/7970 I'm replacing for 970 as they come cheap. Don't care if it's console or pc you aren't feeding that kind of amd gpu a weak cpu and getting something that is going to trounce a PS4 or do 1080p/60fps high end PS4 titles or whatever the hell I was reading as this doesn't even happen with pc ports with far more power at times. This rumor is BS'ing something or nintendo has some magic, what does history tell any of you.

I'm at kind of lost about what rumors you are talking about. None has leaked any kind of performance ballparks, until you did. :P
 
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