ByWatterson
Member
Literally nothing about the presentation so demanding that 30fps should even be a possibility.
Redfall is launching on Xbox consoles with Quality mode only (4K30FPS) - 60fps to be patched in at some future point
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FH5's tech and performance was pristine at launch. Psychonauts 2 is a first party game that wouldn't be complete without first party backing, by Double Fine's own admission.
RF will also get a 60 FPS mode, they're not saying it's gonna be 30 FPS only like Gotham Knights.
Tried and executed
This was supposed to be a Summer '22 title originally, pretty sure the backing of a 2 trillion dollar company let them have a full extra year to develop. Imagine the state it was in in their original release window
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Gobjuduck
Banned
Fair enough. But redfall would get demolished by Diablo, SF6, FF16, Zelda. The delay would just hurt the games relevancy.
The usual suspects would just scream "ANOTHER XBOX DELAY?", even if it was for the better.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Let's be honest, most of the newcomers to Redfall discussion in this topic aren't interested in anything about the game at all.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
That doesn't change that it was a glorified expansion of a game.
THe game was mostly finished and would have launched regardless, by Double Fine's own admission. Try again, warrior.
Post launch. Sure. How long will that be? A few weeks? A few months? How many times were we promised shit like that for Halo Infinite?
Tried and executed
You played yourself.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Starfield is 30FPS on console isn't it?.......
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Move the goalposts. The progression system, rewards, leaderboards, and resetting of such progress was broken for months and months and there are still issues till this day.
So again, a game that had/has serious issues for a core part of their marketing of racing online and earning stuff.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
lol, that's the only thing that needs to be said to this, again, lol.
Double Fine restored cut Psychonauts 2 content after joining Xbox Game Studios
"I look forward to this era where we are doing everything for what is right for the game," Tim Schafer says
It literally wouldn't be the same game, with cut content and no bosses.
Why don't you try for a change, Jim Hellwig.
Halo: Infinite didn't launch with just 30 FPS only. Terrible example to use, but then again it's been a terrible string of posts.
Can you share some examples of how it's broken? I played it pretty extensively at launch and did not have any particular issues with it.
Is it something very specific that only 10 people on youtube found an issue with or a legit thing ?
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
This is what's great about consoles. You just pop the game in and start playing! No worrying about settings or performance.
I just want to relax on my comfy couch and let the developers decide.
I just want to relax on my comfy couch and let the developers decide.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
This game will be reviewed 9 or 10/10 by "journalists" like Deathloop, will be average reviewed by user and will fail hard, it's worse every day, like they doing it on purpose.
I would love to be wrong, but just the SP always online is already killing it for me.
I would love to be wrong, but just the SP always online is already killing it for me.
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TheGodfather07
Member
it would be acceptable if the game looked amazing but it legit looks like an early last gen game.
no shit. game looks like ass. whats there to be interested in exactly? it will be available to me for free and i still dont want to play it. its easy to tell a quality game when you see it and this isnt it. quite the opposite actually. it just looks so damn bad.
Let's be honest, most of the newcomers to Redfall discussion in this topic aren't interested in anything about the game at all.
no shit. game looks like ass. whats there to be interested in exactly? it will be available to me for free and i still dont want to play it. its easy to tell a quality game when you see it and this isnt it. quite the opposite actually. it just looks so damn bad.
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GHG
Member
It's not my problem or job to worry about how it would have ended up if it had released in their originally scheduled window.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
This might be true, I, for one, was curious to try it on game pass, TBH I wasn't sold before, nothing about this game got me hyped for it, but hey, it's a first party title that seems to have a lot of anticipation on it. So I figure, it maybe surprises me, like Hi-Fi Rush before it. Learning that it will be a 30fps game at launch is just sad, it won't affect me directly since my Xbox machine is my PC, but it sucks that a game like that failed on such fundamental point. I'm done with 30fps games man, if I own a XSX I would be pissed, as a PC gamer that want more competition, it sucks, I really hope Microsoft starts to deliver on their promises and from their acquisitions.Let's be honest, most of the newcomers to Redfall discussion in this topic aren't interested in anything about the game at all.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Uh, no.
We were just telling Xbox fans that Redfall and Starfield were planned to be released on PlayStation before Microsoft purchased Zenimax. For some odd reason, people wanted to play dumb and say this was never the case because.
People knew these were Xbox games.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Such a short term memory you have.
I will link you to the post on, where I said you and I have had this discussion before.
Redfall Rumored to Be Targeting Late March 2023 Release
https://wccftech.com/redfall-rumored-to-be-targeting-late-march-2023-release/ Arkane Austin's Redfall game may be targeting a late March 2023 release window, according to sources cited by journalist Okami Games. The same anonymous sources also reported that pre-ordering the Deluxe Edition...
And what did I say here, in another Redfall thread no less,
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Exactly, you've highlighted what my post wanted to say in theory, but in a practical way
Nor is it mine, just addressing the point in your post about a trillion dollar company needing to rush something, they didn't.
Such a short term memory you have.
I will link you to the post on, where I said you and I have had this discussion before.
Redfall Rumored to Be Targeting Late March 2023 Release
https://wccftech.com/redfall-rumored-to-be-targeting-late-march-2023-release/ Arkane Austin's Redfall game may be targeting a late March 2023 release window, according to sources cited by journalist Okami Games. The same anonymous sources also reported that pre-ordering the Deluxe Edition...www.neogaf.com
Yes, I said the same thing, very standard bugs, loading issues etc that no single AA or AAA game doesn't have every now and then.
Even the 'accolades' issue article in your post is from 2021, just a few days after the games launch. It's 2 year old news now.
I'll tip my fedora and continue to use FH5 as an example of a game that was released in an exceptional state.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Mods, change his tag to 'CasualTM'
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
balls of snow
Member
Just to comment on this. No problem with diversity, just make em attractive af guys and girls. Chloe from Uncharted 2 was half indian no one gives a fuck when shes that hot.
GHG
Member
Why is it still releasing in its current state then?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Regardless of any other discussion, a first person shooter in this day and age with only a 30 FPS mode at launch is a glaring oversight.
If it was a Series S limitation, have the option on Series X at least.
If it's development issues, motherfuckers you were originally going to launch 12 months ago.
The 60 FPS patch should at at or around the launch day, any more is just going to be a very bad move for an already polarizing game.
Tango put out a 4K/60 FPS game in secret, this game has had a long gestation period. Something went wrong in the development process or they overshot their ambitions.
If it was a Series S limitation, have the option on Series X at least.
If it's development issues, motherfuckers you were originally going to launch 12 months ago.
The 60 FPS patch should at at or around the launch day, any more is just going to be a very bad move for an already polarizing game.
Tango put out a 4K/60 FPS game in secret, this game has had a long gestation period. Something went wrong in the development process or they overshot their ambitions.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Nemesisuuu
Member
I didn't enjoy it.
Fess
Member
Those has to be highly isolated bugs. How much did you play? I've been playing FH5 since launch including all expansions, no issues what so ever, one if not the most polished games I've played this generation. Complain about MS all you want but don't throw Playground under that bus. The only thing that piss me off is that MS don't seem to care about Playground. Hot Wheels could've been a stand alone release since it was so different from the main game and had new gameplay and type of cars a map editor and all, and they just threw Rally Adventure out there like it was nothing, no PR push, I even had to search for it on the store because there was no new content tag or anything for it.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Lol, you mentally challenged warriors are hilarious. Constantl,y moving goalposts, refusing to engage the actual points, and purposefully being disingenuous. Seek help.
Mister Wolf
Member
Arkane been fucking up lately. First Deathloop now this. Should've just made a sequel to Prey or Dishonored 3 with a new character.
Tomeru
Member
You seem to be under the impression that gamers have standards.
nowhat
Member
Call me optimistic... well, you wouldn't. I am not. But supposedly (this is from following a few indie devs, not a game dev myself, just a web dev) things like Nanite can really make a difference when used properly.
We've all seen/played the Matrix demo, but at that point, the engine was far from ready to release. And it was (unintentionally or not) "cinematic 24fps". When the engine is more widely adapted and mature, we may be in for a surprise.
...or not. But we'll see.
NonPhixion
Member
Let me make a dumbfuck irrelevant post about things 10 years ago:
Everyone loved playing Destiny in 2014 on hardware that could barely handle 30fps. Chill.
Everyone loved playing Destiny in 2014 on hardware that could barely handle 30fps. Chill.
mrqs
Member
"PC MASTER RACE" was very alive back then, people with top notch PCs complained just the same, while others were having fun.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Fess
Member
Why even bother? Just wait. If you play it at launch it'll 100% make your first impression worse and if you keep playing your first playthrough will be worse as well. Then when the 60fps patch is there you might be over the game already.
I seriously hate having to play bad versions of games just because I want to be there day 1, this unfinished launch thing needs to stop. I hope critics absolutely slaughter the game unless it somehow miraculously deserve praise even if it runs objectively bad for a shooter in 2023.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
MS already delayed it by a year. Remember this was announced as a 2022 title like Forza and Starfield. MS tried to do the right thing but it sucks to see them still rushing it out the door without a 60 fps mode.
I think they just couldnt figure out how to do 60 fps on consoles. I bet this will run at 60 fps on PCs.
Bragr
Banned
I keep saying it, but Redfall is making a game about killing rich people, they really deserve to fail with this game.
I don't like to bash developers but this is sick and this should be the swansong for Arkane Studios.
nowhat
Member
Let me just get this straight. So If she wouldn't have been "that hot", having her been Indian would have been a negative?
I mean, you do you, but just... wow.