I completely agree. I'm just saying that you'll still be able to hear the in game audio and chat through the phone. You won't hear a word from me defending this assinine proposition.
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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I think Nintendo is really overshooting on how "social" this will be in public. There won't be people playing this on street corners. And any online match-making/voice chat is likely to be at home, not out in public, again making the need of a phone app redundant rather than going the traditional route.
I think they're just going all-in on this app/subscription/mobile strategy. They want a massive mobile userbase to market to.
I think they're just going all-in on this app/subscription/mobile strategy. They want a massive mobile userbase to market to.
RichiRamjag
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At this point, it won't help sadly. That train left the station. Nintendo screwed up on the messaging and people aren't interested in getting to the bottom of it by using that link.
Nintendo needs to get someone (not fucking Reggie) to clarify what can and can't be done on the switch without the app.
Ahh. Thanks for the info!
Nintendo is protecting your child from online chat by forcing him to silently play with random people instead of his friends.
LordOcidax
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Why two cables.... ?I don't see the problem guys.
Movalpolos
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I don't see the problem guys.
lol
forknknife
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For me the important question is how will the in-game sound and the voice chat sound be integrated and mixed.
I really cannot imagine Nintendo expects voice chat sound and in-game sound to be separated and force us to have either game sound or voice chat through speakers. There's no way that's going to work.
So, either the phone streams the voice chat sound to the switch and it gets mixed together with the in-game sound or the switch streams the in-game sound to the phone and you hear it mixed with the voice chat through your headphones connected to the phone.
Those are the only 2 possibilities right?
I really cannot imagine Nintendo expects voice chat sound and in-game sound to be separated and force us to have either game sound or voice chat through speakers. There's no way that's going to work.
So, either the phone streams the voice chat sound to the switch and it gets mixed together with the in-game sound or the switch streams the in-game sound to the phone and you hear it mixed with the voice chat through your headphones connected to the phone.
Those are the only 2 possibilities right?
I am not sure you get what he is saying.
I for example, play mostly at odd hours in hte morning and at night. when i do play games i need to use headphones. Its not only a preference, but a necessity at that point. PS4 and XB1S let me stream ALL audio through the headset. I can even chat and stream audio through the same controller. So if i have the options. Now take the wiiU. Not all games stream the audio through the tablet. Which is infuriating. Games like Tokyo Mirage or Wind Waker will only do certain audio prompts on the tablet. The rest needs to come through the tv. So.... the proposition of the wiiU being an off tv device falls apart really fast, but it also sucks that i have no choice but to use the tv in some way to get the audio, but not through the headphone jack that is included in the wiiu.
Now lets go to the Switch. It will be the same. I need to be able to stream ALL audio through the Switch, which i am sure that will do since its also a portable. But what if i would like to play online with my brothers or just a random match? i have to take out my tablet, matchmake, and then listen to ALL audio through the tablet? will the tablet stream all the audio from the Switch as well? How can i listen to the audio from the device, and from the phone/tablet at the same time?
I don't think its an elegant solution if one earbud needs to go to the switch, and the other earbud is going to the phone. I also don't see the practicality of separating a functionality that should be included already in the hardware. So how is he not being clear about his issue with this?
Its one thing to defend the Switch when it really needs it. But so far, this is some big bullshit of "innovation" to something that didn't need to be innovated.
Interfectum
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One for listening to game audio, one for listening to voice chat.
Nintendo's solution to having to carry around a set of 'bulky headphones' is to have you carry around two.
One to hear the audio from the Switch, one to voice chat on your phone. Seamless.
I don't see the problem guys.
I love this.
I just had a reply from PDP who are selling these Nintendo Switch Premium Zelda Chat Earbuds -
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9R7HEU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I asked them originally if these chat earbuds connected directly to the Switch and enabled me to chat with friends. They replied with:
Christophe Canales (PDP)
19 Jan, 16:30 CET
Dear Sam,
Unfortunately we are not abilited to give technical details on upcoming products.
Best regards,
Christophe
PDP Customer Support
Thanks for nothing, Christophe.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9R7HEU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I asked them originally if these chat earbuds connected directly to the Switch and enabled me to chat with friends. They replied with:
Christophe Canales (PDP)
19 Jan, 16:30 CET
Dear Sam,
Unfortunately we are not abilited to give technical details on upcoming products.
Best regards,
Christophe
PDP Customer Support
Thanks for nothing, Christophe.
I'm reading it but there's nothing that says how the matchmaking system in particular will be handled. The link specifically states the app will handle lobby stuff which is sort of what a matchmaking system does in that it puts random people into a single temporary lobby.
Relaxed Muscle
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Is different in the fact I don't need the extra hardware on PS4.
SentryDown
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I really don't get the point on gamer's headset.
If I have one, I'm kinda screwed because I can't plug it in both the console & my phone.
If I don't, what am I supposed to do ? Hold the phone with one hand, play with the other ? Put my phone on the side in speaker mode to hear my friends (oh the sound quality) ?
Because if I have earbuds with an attached mic (like most phones comes with, and the PS4 as well by the way), I could well use it on the phone for better quality but it's the same problem as the headset, I'd much rather have it plugged it on the console.
They need to do an explanatory video or something, I'm confused.
If I have one, I'm kinda screwed because I can't plug it in both the console & my phone.
If I don't, what am I supposed to do ? Hold the phone with one hand, play with the other ? Put my phone on the side in speaker mode to hear my friends (oh the sound quality) ?
Because if I have earbuds with an attached mic (like most phones comes with, and the PS4 as well by the way), I could well use it on the phone for better quality but it's the same problem as the headset, I'd much rather have it plugged it on the console.
They need to do an explanatory video or something, I'm confused.
One for chat and one for in-game audio.
Voysa Reezun
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Nobody's making a console warrior argument.
You're just playing semantics and trying to parse statements to the point of absurdity because you really just want to believe that these things will be offered through the console.
No one's stopping you from believing what you want in the face of actual words from multiple Nintendo representatives. I believe that the Nintendo Switch will bake me a delicious cake, Peach-style, once a month. No Nintendo rep has explicitly said that it won't do that, after all!
I just believe.
Why not just include it in the console itself?
I just don't get it.
Press the home button, go to friends, invite/join them and play together. Voice chat over console.
Now you also have to put away your controller/in this case the whole console and grab your phone to do all that.
Plus the other issues like voice chat and game sound over headphones, etc.
I just don't get it.
Press the home button, go to friends, invite/join them and play together. Voice chat over console.
Now you also have to put away your controller/in this case the whole console and grab your phone to do all that.
Plus the other issues like voice chat and game sound over headphones, etc.
RichiRamjag
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I don't think they'd be dumb enough to limit standard matchmaking (playing online in say Mario Kart or Splatoon) to the phone app, but with Nintendo you really never fucking know.
LordOcidax
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But, all the audio could go via the Switch...
I wonder why we haven't heard any more about this.
Nintendo must know that people are confused and potentially very pissed. The smart thing to do is to immediately clarify how this app works and if it's mandatory.
I think that maybe they're changing some things as we speak. I bet they're currently scrambling to build a proper online service so that next week they can be like "of course you can do matchmaking and voice through the console, the phone is just an option! That's what we always intended."
Nintendo must know that people are confused and potentially very pissed. The smart thing to do is to immediately clarify how this app works and if it's mandatory.
I think that maybe they're changing some things as we speak. I bet they're currently scrambling to build a proper online service so that next week they can be like "of course you can do matchmaking and voice through the console, the phone is just an option! That's what we always intended."
Memorabilia
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Lol This can't be real.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ, if this is true its like Ninty's network engineers are the tech equivalent of a lost Amazon tribe being filmed from a helicopter for the first time.
Straight up bizarre.
LiveFromKyoto
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Game audio + chat.
I don't see the problem guys.
Incredible. I think one of his other hands should have a battery bank plugging into the bottom of the phone and switch too.
I don't see the problem guys.
2nd right hand needs a powerbank
blacklotus
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If it did why the fuck wouldn't there be voice chat native to the console to begin with then?
Nintendo audience doesn't have smart devices confirmed.
Interfectum
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I don't see the problem guys.
This is godlike.
moltonasty
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I don't get the confusion, it seems pretty clear as the official Nintendo website says
The app that enables chat is releasing in summer. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is releasing in April. That means you can't use voice chat.
I don't get why so many people can't accept that Nintendo is just batshit insane as always.
I'd love for this to be wrong and that we can voice chat through the system but nothing we've heard so far indicates that AT ALL
March of the Crabs
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Classic Christophe
It could. That doesn't seem to be what the the need for an app is implying, though.
I think it's crazy how they think millions of us are going to just be hanging around in public playing switch games. Let alone using voice chat. They can't be serous.
And the big N is always safety first. Lol
I can see it now on the news. 10 yr old gets his switch and iPhone stolen because he was in public all mic'ed up playing some splattoon 2 online not paying attention to his surroundings. Jesus.
And the big N is always safety first. Lol
I can see it now on the news. 10 yr old gets his switch and iPhone stolen because he was in public all mic'ed up playing some splattoon 2 online not paying attention to his surroundings. Jesus.
LordOcidax
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Because you still need the smartphone to play online on the Go...
breveglieri
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Ohmygod! Again?
How tick are you guys?
You need a cable to connect your headset to your phone to talk with your friends online and you need a cable to connect your headphones on the Switch to hear the game audio in a noisy enviroment or to not disturb others using the built-in speakers!
R_thanatos
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Ps messages is NOT voice chat . it's certainly NOT matchmaking.
having a second option to view messages is different than having an unique solution that doesn't take into account that those features should be on the console.
You can see those messages on the console AND the app on PS4.
Can you do that stuff on the switch ?
Youre doing the same thing he did. You are pegging me as a fanboy in denial, desperately clinging onto something. I asked a question in theorizing about a potential explanation. Because i also think nintendos idea is bad. Stop caricaturizing people based on what you percieve to be their console preferences maybe? Im literally asking about semantics
PDP: Shoddy products and shoddy English.
I also ask myself why nintendo would allow this: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01N9R7HEU/ a Zelda branded in ear headset for the switch as official licensed product. It's really strange.
Edit: lol just saw that someone else brought them up. nevermind then.
Hari Seldon
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Actually this is great. Sorry son I'm not buying you a smart phone, so I guess I don't have to pay the online fee either. Nintendo is just doing their part to prevent kids from getting on voice chat.
I don't really use voice chat at all so this doesn't affect me much...
....But that doesn't change the fact that it's really dumb they are forcing this through a phone...
:/
and they want me to pay to use the app?? Wow
I'm still keeping my switch preorder for Zelda but this is so dumb...
....But that doesn't change the fact that it's really dumb they are forcing this through a phone...
:/
and they want me to pay to use the app?? Wow
I'm still keeping my switch preorder for Zelda but this is so dumb...
Interfectum
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At what point do Nintendo fans throw in the towel and say "yes this is a pretty dumb idea"? Is there a legal requirement to defend them at all costs otherwise your Switch pre-order is cancelled? Mine seems okay so far.
This has happened before with a Japanese company and online stuff, at Square-Enix. They sunk millions in FF14, their new MmO, and deliberately didn't look at *any* of the competition. No-one even loaded up world of Warcraft to see how mmos had changed.
Bits of Japan really, really don't understand how online stuff works in the rest of the world, and they seem intent on not learning any lessons until the roof falls in on them.
That's still no reason to put the voice chat on the smartphone! With the Vita I could put my phone doing a hotspot, put it on my pocket and play online with chat just fine with my regular headphones! How are you going to this with the Switch? Strap the phone to your head?
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