Not sure why this is an appropriate response? It's insulting and offensive.
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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spazchicken
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I agree. The thing is already turning out to be a mess. I honestly don't see it turning out much different from the WiiU and the Wii once people wised up to what it really was.
I feel like the only thing that could save it is the fact that it's replacing the 3DS but then it's $100 too expensive for that.
Sorry I didn't wait another six weeks to express my opinion, you guys.
Honestly this page seems to make it pretty clear the app isn't being used for random matchmaking.
JaseMath
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Fans did the same thing during the early days of the Wii U. I remembereven on GAFNintendoforce came rushing to the defense, giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt since they lacked the experience that MS or Sony had in the online world. Look how that turned out.
At some point without a serious shakeup in management and/or thought leadership, you have to accept you are what you are and it's clear Nintendo hasn't changed direction with the Switch. They've only grown more brazen and doubled-down on the promise of Wii U, the console for everyone and no one. I really hope Switch is a success, but goddammit Nintendo, what the name of God are you doing?
Last I checked I can play games on my phone. To lots of people mobile has been a compelling enough alternative yet Nintendo is continuing to act like they dont have to provide the same quality of life standards.
Why would software, which has always handled its own matchmaking, care about the OS? This is about OS-level functionality like the eShop or Parental Controls, or more aptly equivalent to Xbox Lobbies and such where you can form parties and matchmake completely outside of a game and move into the game.
They've seemingly offloaded just about all such OS functionality to smartdevices.
Salty Rice
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Lol how did I miss this post?
7DollarHagane
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So, you have seen this process?
You know that it doesn't display the users in the lobby on the app as well as on the screen? Or when you click quick match in Splatoon 2, it displays progress on matchmaking on your phone, while you play a little mini game on the switch screen?
You know these things? No, nobody does. It's just jump to conclusions, negative ones if possible, and be smug and shitpost.
Darklor01
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No wonder the UI we saw looked so clean. Everything other than games and a few system features are all in a phone app. Lol.
dude, you gotta stop
He continues after OP cuts off that you can use your phone as a hotspot or if you're on the go and connected to wi-fi it offers a fairly convenient solution compared to busting out a huge gaming headset. I think they're eventually going to have these functions on the system itself, but this is certainly a peculiar way to get things done. That said, I'm waiting to experience it before full judgement.
It's literally all right here. From their own damn site. People defending this needs to stop trying to see what they want or "hope" by some chance you can do all of this from the console.
Seriously. Expect it to play out like this people. You'll save yourself a lot of disappointment.
Best possible scenario. They would treat DeNA's world as bible just because they are Japanese. Nintendo has some gaijin trust issues.
I believe they actually said once that Japan is the greatest country. There's nothing wrong treating your homeland better. It's just we don't get what we want that way.
InsaneTiger
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WTF
Ninja Scooter
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That might be a possibility but the Vita handled things like friends and chat online quite well.
the problem people are having with this is that even if it works as advertised, it's needless. it's a solution to a problem that nobody was having. Nobody can name a single potential advantage to having the online service tied exclusively to a separate device. Perhaps it's a technical concession, like you said, but that doesn't all of a sudden put it above criticism anymore than any other decisions made by develops and publishers on hardware and software are criticized here every day, often before anybody has a chance to use them. Nobody else gets this "lets wait and see!" parachute, why should Nintendo? Why are they so special when it comes to boneheaded decisions? People don't necessarily have to try and idea to criticize it (Xbox One DRM says hello)
Darkspineslayer
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Nintendo in a nutshell.
chillybright
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"solution"
i mean, i already wasnt a fan of the voice chat on a mobile device. i dont want to have another device on/around me to have to manage silly shit like that. matchmaking? on your phone? FOR. WHAT. couldnt be bothered to make it a menu selection on screen? no, that would be too convenient.
Yeah, Nintendo got to carry this with the strength of its software like Wii U again. Not in the sense of sales but in terms of its main appeal.
eighty(one)
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You know, this could be a great idea, IF other Switch form factors are in the cards. This would mean. Your friends list, etc - is no longer device centric, but network centric across all devices - anywhere.
Not only that, but having your physical phone act as the hub for the network makes sense considering we all have our phones all the time - I know I do.
Movalpolos
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Oh it's the world then right? They want people to change their lives for the honor of playing Nintendo games. They will not assimilate. Nintendo thinks they have the clout to force their vision. Fucking lol.
Why a huge gaming headset? I have great earbuds with a mike for my phone, or use the same model that came with the ps4.
His answer is pure bullshit
GarthVaderUK
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Does Nintendo have a focus any more?
Switch is looking like a jack-of-all trades but master of none at this point. Everything from its very nature as a home console and handheld hybrid, to the different types of controllers and long list of built-in technologies and gimmicks pushing their price up, to the weird solutions to online - it's a hodge-podge of ideas.
Ninja Scooter
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I know that based on that site, as well as everything Reggie has said since the press conference, that a separate phone app is required for lobbies and voice chat. yes I know that for a fact. Because I have common sense.
This reads like a 4Chan post.
vasametropolis
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I looked up the definition of solution. Their position doesn't comply with any definition.
You know that smartglass, playstation app, as well as account system throughout multiple systems exist in other platforms, right?
what the fuck is this? why would somebody "change their life" to play nintendo games? AHAHAHAHa
maaaaan you are too far gone
GitarooMan
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What I don't understand is what if I want to mix game audio and chat? Just SOL I guess. Also will I have to use an app just to play some MK8 matches? If so that is fucked up.
have you seen the process? nintendo's site says you have to use the app is for matchmaking and voice chat. reggie says you have to use the app for matchmaking and voice chat. there are no conclusions being jumped to here.
Interfectum
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Oh my... lol
Well in all fairness, the software should always be the main appeal of a console.
Rebel Leader
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We have no idea. To me it sounds like through a phone
Nah ninja. Wait for the other other facts. These are just placeholders.
Not wrong though. Nintendo has the most amount of unlocalized software out of all big Japanese publishers.
Not to count all the western second party developers that got screwed.
Ninja Scooter
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if you could use the game interface wouldn't creating the app be a huge waste of money?
A lot of us thought we'd never see a Mario game on non-Nintendo hardware but now he's on iOS (timed exclusive might I add). All it takes is money to get things done.
It just really seems odd that they included NFC in every single controller option just for amiibo. It does make sense, to me, to have NFC in every controller if my theory is true and this is how you must play online. It would really suck to want to play online but not have the correct controller enabled with NFC enabled to do so.
tl;dr I'm most likely wrong
That site honesty makes things a bit clearer for me. Managing friends has to be on the console since it's part of the free tier. The app only references online lobbies and chat. Voice chat on the app is dumb, but I rarely use voice chat at all and lobbies sounds like Miiverse type stuff or maybe party management.
It's dumb, but maybe not as catastrophic as I feared.
JaseMath
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Email their customer service and tell them you're a shareholder. When I did that, I received several responses within the same day. Don't be an asshole, though; give them a thoughtful, well-written explanation of your concerns. Chances are you won't learn anything new and they'll only allay your fears with corporate rigamarole, but at least they can send it up the ladder to someone who might see it and can make a difference.
Besides how ridiculous this post is in general, I don't get why have this phone app thing would be more appealing to the japanese market in particular.
vasametropolis
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Amazingly, this pisses me off the most.
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